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63 Days Stuck at Sea: Protest Erupts on Royal Caribbean’s Majesty of the Seas

By Jim Walker on May 15, 2020
POSTED IN DISEASE

Today, crew members aboard the Majesty of the Seasprotested Royal Caribbean’s latest failure to follow through with its  repatriation of its crew members. Several hundred crew members congregated on the pool deck making signs protesting Royal Caribbean’s refusal to follow through with plans to send the crew members home. The repatriation Riot-2-320x180.jpgplans have reportedly changed at the last minute on five occasions, including three times dating back to last month.

The crew members chanted “send us home” and erected signs saying “Do You Sleep Well Mr. Bayley” (right) referring to the CEO of Royal Caribbean International Michael Bayley who was quoted earlier by the Miami Herald stating that flying crew members home via private charters was “too expensive.” Mr. Bayley collected around $25,000,000 in compensation in the last four years. A second sign (below left) stated “How Many More Suicides Do You Need?” This sign was created in reference to the Death of a Polish engineer who apparently jumped overboard from the Jewel of the Seas and the recent death of a Chinese assistant waiter who died on the Mariner of the Seasearlier this week.

The protest was covered by Miami Herald reporter Taylot Dolven who has closely followed Royal Caribbean’s dilatory conduct.

have written about the failure of cruise lines, including Royal Caribbean, to repatriate their crew members in a timely manner several times.  Every major newspaper has covered the story of 75,000 to 100,000 crew members stuck Riot-1-320x285.jpgat sea, including the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, LA Times, Quartz, The Cut, SFGate, Guardian Fortune, USA TODAY,  ABC News CBS News, CNN, NBC News, Daily Mail  and even FOX News.

The Miami Herald has done an outstanding job of covering this issue and has written about Royal Caribbean’s refusal to acknowledge and agree to comply with the CDC’s guilines for repatriating crew members, Royal Caribbean’s false accusations blaming the CDC for keeping its crew trapped on its ships, Royal Caribbean executives agreeing in principle to the CDC’s terms for repatriating the crew, and its ongoing refusal to repatriate its crew.  The Herald has covered the hunger strike which took place on the Navigator of the Seas due to Royal Caribbean’s unreasonable delays.

As of three days ago, Royal Caribbean had agreed to the CDC’s guidelines and  signed the required acknowledgments for only 20 crew members, all of them U.S. nationals. As of yesterday, Royal Caribbean had increased the number of CDC approved repatriations of only 557 crewmembers, from the U.S., U.K. and the Philippines.

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I've noticed that all your posts have been doom and gloom articles against RCL, Do you not like RCL?  Or are you a plant for another cruise line trying to sway us that direction, if so, you're no

I disagree that RC isn't trying or isn't communicating it. The issue is the main stream media rarely, if ever, reports on it. They are quick to post a "disgruntled" cook's FB post as evidence of

Another negative, one sided, useless post from R Yeo. By my calculation this now account for 100% of their posts. 

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I would not doubt that he (op) is a plant for the attorney(fishing for business) of cruzelewdnewz. I'm not spelling it correctly so it doesn't get additional hits. Further, I wouldn't doubt that these type of lawyers (not the good kind) have incited some of this on the ships. "Hey, (crew member name), get a bunch of your buddies together to create a "protest", have them join my class action, and we (I) can make millions!"

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So let me get this correct

 

They are proresting about being locked on a ship with 100s of fellow crew for company, with food and drink available at no cost, still getting paid their wage, lots of things to do such as games, pool, ice skating etc YET they want home to their countries where they will be in lockdown in their home only talking with those in their household, food and drink will be whats available at local shop they have to que to get into and they wont have wages.....makes a lot of sense

To me this photo is a small group organising a protest and as everyone knows when something is happening others come out to watch, those watching are probably the laundry staff wondering how the hell they are going to get the pen marks off the bed sheets for new guests arriving 

 

BTW anyone notice its only the Miami newspaper that poster links? Probably works for them and is trying to further their career by looking for negative posts on here 

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3 hours ago, Baked Alaska said:

I would not doubt that he (op) is a plant for the attorney(fishing for business) of cruzelewdnewz. I'm not spelling it correctly so it doesn't get additional hits. Further, I wouldn't doubt that these type of lawyers (not the good kind) have incited some of this on the ships. "Hey, (crew member name), get a bunch of your buddies together to create a "protest", have them join my class action, and we (I) can make millions!"

Yep, @Baked Alaska let’s call him out now. Jimmy we know it’s you, I’m sure there’s some ambulance to be chased in SoFla waiting on you. Also, appropriating an Asian sounding name doesn’t sound very ethical if it is you. 

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Why do so many people here have a difficult time for Royal being exposed for doing something obviously wrong? 

It's clear these crew members feel marginalized. Royal has promised to send them back home and has not done so. Their feelings and concerns are valid and true; Royal is very, very wrong. Why attack the poster or the news source?

 

As a lover of Royal Caribbean, how can you not feel sympathetic for these crew members? Or, do we only appreciate them when they make us a towel animal or bring another drink?

 

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4 minutes ago, bobroo said:

Why do so many people here have a difficult time for Royal being exposed for doing something obviously wrong? 

It's clear these crew members feel marginalized. Royal has promised to send them back home and has not done so. Their feelings and concerns are valid and true; Royal is very, very wrong. Why attack the poster or the news source?

 

As a lover of Royal Caribbean, how can you not feel sympathetic for these crew members? Or, do we only appreciate them when they make us a towel animal or bring another drink?

 

The posting pattern is clearly one of a troll. In this case it looks like an attorney who has been doing this for years, well before any of this. 
It’s not that we don’t feel sympathetic, but to assume that Royal is the only at fault is shortsighted. The mechanisms for getting crew back home have existed for decades and were taken away as well as the normal capacity for getting them home. Normally crew are changed out in a rolling basis, so there’s not 750 heading back to Manila at once, there might be five to 10. Also, many of them are on still valid contracts, where they agreed to six months at sea or sometimes more. 
 

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2 hours ago, Ray said:

 how would you get them home? 

Exactly!  They aren't allowed to take commercial flights home from the US, so Royal has to logistically figure out what the best way is to get them home.  They have to coordinate to figure out what foreign ports will allow the ship to dock that also will have airports where they can fly these chartered flights home.  When you've got crew from all over the world, it isn't like they can just charter a single flight to get everyone home.  I'm sure the communication may not be the best for some of the crew that have been waiting to go home.  They will hear plans change time and time again as the cruise lines (and it's not just Royal!) have to change their plans.  They may not realize the issues that these ships face and the fact that international travel is restricted in a lot of places right now and that includes most of the major hubs that the crew members would go through before splitting off to their smaller home cities.

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Having worked abroad and had workers from Asia ( Ph, India , Pakistan etc ) employed on 2 year contracts with only 1 day off a week,  passports taken off them so they couldnt go home, living in buildings that could only be descibed as worse than a slum or ghetto for pay that was roughly $200 per month and they were HAPPY, i very much doubt its these employees that are causing the issues

Also crew from india and PH know that even if they get off ships they cannot get home due to no flights into their countries even chartered.

To me this is Western Crew ( Europe / North America) looking to get a big pay day from lawsuits 

 

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1 hour ago, AshleyDillo said:

Exactly!  They aren't allowed to take commercial flights home from the US, so Royal has to logistically figure out what the best way is to get them home.  They have to coordinate to figure out what foreign ports will allow the ship to dock that also will have airports where they can fly these chartered flights home.  When you've got crew from all over the world, it isn't like they can just charter a single flight to get everyone home.  I'm sure the communication may not be the best for some of the crew that have been waiting to go home.  They will hear plans change time and time again as the cruise lines (and it's not just Royal!) have to change their plans.  They may not realize the issues that these ships face and the fact that international travel is restricted in a lot of places right now and that includes most of the major hubs that the crew members would go through before splitting off to their smaller home cities.

They aren’t even allowed to stay in a hotel till a charter flight is available, nor can they get in a cab or use any public transit. 

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55 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said:

And not all crew members share the same sentiment.  I've been following Riley's YouTube.  He's from Alaska and has been stuck on Quantum.  They ended his contract during the shutdown and he isn't getting paid, but he's keeping a great attitude!  

He did a good interview with Emma over at cruisingisntjustforoldpeople earlier today as well. 

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13 hours ago, R yeo said:

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63 Days Stuck at Sea: Protest Erupts on Royal Caribbean’s Majesty of the Seas

By Jim Walker on May 15, 2020
POSTED IN DISEASE

Today, crew members aboard the Majesty of the Seasprotested Royal Caribbean’s latest failure to follow through with its  repatriation of its crew members. Several hundred crew members congregated on the pool deck making signs protesting Royal Caribbean’s refusal to follow through with plans to send the crew members home. The repatriation Riot-2-320x180.jpgplans have reportedly changed at the last minute on five occasions, including three times dating back to last month.

The crew members chanted “send us home” and erected signs saying “Do You Sleep Well Mr. Bayley” (right) referring to the CEO of Royal Caribbean International Michael Bayley who was quoted earlier by the Miami Herald stating that flying crew members home via private charters was “too expensive.” Mr. Bayley collected around $25,000,000 in compensation in the last four years. A second sign (below left) stated “How Many More Suicides Do You Need?” This sign was created in reference to the Death of a Polish engineer who apparently jumped overboard from the Jewel of the Seas and the recent death of a Chinese assistant waiter who died on the Mariner of the Seasearlier this week.

The protest was covered by Miami Herald reporter Taylot Dolven who has closely followed Royal Caribbean’s dilatory conduct.

have written about the failure of cruise lines, including Royal Caribbean, to repatriate their crew members in a timely manner several times.  Every major newspaper has covered the story of 75,000 to 100,000 crew members stuck Riot-1-320x285.jpgat sea, including the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, LA Times, Quartz, The Cut, SFGate, Guardian Fortune, USA TODAY,  ABC News CBS News, CNN, NBC News, Daily Mail  and even FOX News.

The Miami Herald has done an outstanding job of covering this issue and has written about Royal Caribbean’s refusal to acknowledge and agree to comply with the CDC’s guilines for repatriating crew members, Royal Caribbean’s false accusations blaming the CDC for keeping its crew trapped on its ships, Royal Caribbean executives agreeing in principle to the CDC’s terms for repatriating the crew, and its ongoing refusal to repatriate its crew.  The Herald has covered the hunger strike which took place on the Navigator of the Seas due to Royal Caribbean’s unreasonable delays.

As of three days ago, Royal Caribbean had agreed to the CDC’s guidelines and  signed the required acknowledgments for only 20 crew members, all of them U.S. nationals. As of yesterday, Royal Caribbean had increased the number of CDC approved repatriations of only 557 crewmembers, from the U.S., U.K. and the Philippines.

I might add, the term "erupts" seems a bit harsh.  I don't see a single torch.  No pitch forks.  Heck, I don't even see anyone shaking a fist.  

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I know that I may be a bit "touched"  but as crazy as things are out here I would love to be on a ship with people that you know do not have the disease, have a lighter work schedule and have the run of the ship.  I know that the routine would get old but it is also getting old here in Virginia only being able to go to places that have been deemed necessary.  At least on the ship I would not have to head out and look high and low searching for hand sanitizer, toilet paper, and disinfectant!!

I will say that I understand that they can be a bit angry at the moment but they also need to look at the big picture and realize how hard it is for RCCL to get them home during this worldwide crisis.  I can understand their anger if they have loved ones at home that are dying but if everyone is ok and life at home is fine then relax a bit and stay safe.  

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:35_thinking: this looked very much staged. I think the first picture is of an announcement, nobody looks rough or ruffled. I believe one or two people made those sheets signs and took photos. I cannot imagine any workers from third world countries being upset at their treatment. We, with milk and honey at our fingertips, like to put our expectations on others. Scumbag lawyers live for times like these.

I have been on enough cruises and to enough places outside the USA/UK to know that many people fight for these jobs. Some of these cruise workers make more in a year than people might in a lifetime in their countries. I talked to a guy on our Egyptian cruise who said his 6 months of work on the river paid for his entire family of like 20. He missed his children sure, but they wouldn't be able to afford much if he didn't work.

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I could certainly imagine being upset if I was stuck onboard. I'm not saying it is Royal's 'fault' but if you are the crew member wanting to get home then your frustration is naturally going to be directed there. Many aren't getting paid and that means no money going home etc nor a chance to look for work at home etc (as successful as that may or may not be). While I am sure they are being well looked after on board again they have lost their freedom and can't get off the ship. I can certainly imagine how frustrated that would make me. What could Royal do about it? Probably not a lot but it is understandable there would would be frustration.  

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I can sympathize with the crew a little bit. It’s not the situation per se that is frustrating, it’s the not knowing and where it ends. I’ve been out of work since March 16th and at first it was ok, but it’s really dragging on now and irritating as we wait for word when we can go back to work. You know it’s coming , but it’s the not knowing that is bothersome and irritating. And, add on that being stuck on a ship and not everyone is going to be happy about that. To the crew it’s a job and not all fun and games like travelers that sign up for a week of travel.

I’m sure if you are stuck on a ship as other travelers with COVID cases and quarantined for weeks on end you might feel differently about your captivity. I know I would!

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I also can sympathize with the crew in reference to being 'stuck' onboard.  It has to be frustrating, especially being away from family during such a tough time, and for many, not earning salaries that their families need during such a time.   I think that some of their frustration is probably because management hasn't conveyed how hard they are working on repatriating the crews, and not sharing info readily is pretty common for large companies.  If RCI shared more info with those on the ships, I really think there would be less of what is occurring in these pics.

That said, this is a publicity stunt, and I have no doubt the sleazy lawyer is chomping at the bit right now.  

As far as the OP goes, I personally do a lot of quietly reading here, instead of posting, as anyone can tell by my count.  But someone who posts only negative news stories has an agenda.  🙂

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I can only imagine the complexities that cruise lines are facing as they attempt to repatriate crew.  The CDC has not made it easy, requiring no commercial flights be used and only charter flights for crew departing the U.S. for anywhere, including domestic destinations.  Spain recently refused to allow Allure with just 300 Europeans on board to enter a port.  

Take what the CDC and Spain are doing and multiply it by the 60 to 80 nations that are typically represented on board, then factor in very few international flights that are available.  U.S. and other airlines have grounded the bulk of their international fleets.  Each nation has it own rules and policies that when aggregated into a whole make it virtually impossible to satisfy, but let's just pretend there is no virus and complain because they are on a ship with everything provided for their well being.

You don't have to look very far to find stories that are oblivious that there is pandemic or the extent that the pandemic has impacted daily life for so many.  This is another one of them.  Over 315,000 dead worldwide but let's expect international flights to operate like they did before the pandemic.  Hundreds of millions of people have lost their jobs worldwide but let's pretend everything is business as usual.  Millions of people dealing with lost family members, a husband, wife, mother, father, brother, daughter, aunt, uncle, grandfather, grandmother, cousin or simply a beloved friend.  

It's about me and only me, that is what this story is about.  Forget that hundreds of millions have been impacted in devastating ways, it's all about me.  

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