RCVoyager

In my opinion, the Fantasy Class and Spirit Class need to be retired. Carnival could actually benefit from this situation. There's about 14 or 15 ships that need to go. For many people who take their first cruise the thought process is to try a cheap 3 or 4 night cruise to see if they like cruising. Next thing you know they are on a Carnival Elation cruise to the Bahamas and have a negative experience never to come back to cruising again. There will be lots of ship builders looking for jobs. It will be the best time in a long time, possibly ever, to build new ships in 12 or 18 months from a cost of building view. Carnival could really be rewarded for dragging their feet into the bigger, better, newer arms race of ship building that has occurred over the last 20 years.

Just because you type it, doesn't mean it's true.

I think you pretty much hit it on the head, and I'll add that many if not most of the authorities around the globe have become drunk on the power of control. If anyone thinks any of this has anything to do with health, safety, cleanliness, social distancing anymore, I've got some oceanfront property in Indiana to sell you.

I might add, the term "erupts" seems a bit harsh. I don't see a single torch. No pitch forks. Heck, I don't even see anyone shaking a fist.

While there is no doubt the cruise lines will face big challenges in the coming months/years. Being written by CNBC means that the cruise line will be shown in the most negative light possible. Frankly, I'm surprised they didn't lob in a "floating petri dish" grenade somewhere in the piece.

I had a note in my list that she was leaving. I guess I need to update!

Using the Voyager Class as the marker between newer and older ships, RCCL has 15 newer ships plus the Odyssey and Spectrum and 11 older ships with the Legend and Grandeur being subtracted soon if not already. Their fleet is much newer than Carnival's which has about 7 newer ships and about 19 older. The Fantasy Class is in need of retirement and the Spirit Class only slightly behind it. RCCL and Carnival are the extremes of the major lines with all the others falling in between.

I believe after the initial barrage of rebookings, there will be a big lull in bookings over the next 1 to 2 years. In my opinion, there will be amazing prices offered, but dining packages, drink packages, and other add-ons will be more expensive, and I'm afraid service and food quality will take a hit.

In the past, yes you could with a 3% fee. I would not be surprised if that rule changes with all the obc being thrown around by the cruise lines.

In this case common sense, morals, and ethics would be supported because of the lawsuits that would come if a harmless legal activity like cruising were outlawed or disallowed by these discriminatory activities. Even with all its warts, and believe me, I've been subject to some of those warts, the United States of America has done more for the benefit of human kind than any country in the history of the planet. It's not close.

Not on a beach in FL, but how about Disney? Retirement home? airplane, subway, city bus? Movie theater, grocery store, school, ball game, church, restaurant, bar? Union meeting? Court? Have you dated? Did you have s*x with someone who could have had a fever? Did you get a list of that person's other partners with contact info so we can check them out? Do you know anyone who has done any of these things? Are you going to tell an LGBT or whatever letters are now used they can't go an an LGTB cruise? Good luck with that. What about NAACP convention in Detroit? You going to tell an employee he/she can't go there? Do you want Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton on the sidewalk in front of your house with their bullhorns? It will not work. Here's another one: Do you want to be an employer who sends a young woman home for having a fever and then find out it's related to her menstrual cycle and nothing else? Can you imagine the actual legitimate settlement that would come from that when you consider that RCCL is currently having to spend millions to defend itself because a grandfather picked-up his granddaughter and dropped her out an open window? A window he denies he knew was open despite the video of him leaning the top half of his body out said window immediately before lifting the toddler. The answers will ultimately come from the education side. Wash your hands. Don't touch stuff. If you are sick, stay home.

This is a completely different discussion than an employer stating that employees can't go on a cruise.

Are they going to hire a team of investigators to follow all employees who go on vacation? What happens if they follow me but don't follow my coworker and we find out my coworker went of a cruise? What happens if there is a chartered Christian cruise? Are they going to try to control my religion? Planes? What about ferry boats? If ferry boats aren't allowed, what about city buses? Subways? City trains? What happens if I don't go on a cruise but my wife goes on a girls trip cruise? Do I have to report this to my employer? What happens if the boss' in-laws go on a cruise and then host Easter at their house one week later? Does he/she have to go into quarantine? I sometimes get semi severe sinus issues that come with a low grade fever in April and May. Are they going to ban Spring? There is no end to the possibilities all that are started by artificially singling out one industry. This is not going to happen. In the next month or so the National Emergency will end. New cleanliness, behavioral, and health standards will be put in place by most of society including cruising. Eventually their will be a vaccine for this epidemic, but what about the next one? Because of the "floating petri dish" mantra propagated those with an agenda and the ignorant, the cruise lines will suffer for the next couple of years. Out of that suffering will come many good rates for those of us who choose to return. Unfortunately many new ships, upgrades, and other projects like private island development will be shelved.

And they can be sued for discrimination for firing someone FOR GOING ON A CRUISE, BUT NOT FIRING SOMEONE FROM GOING TO DISNEY. It's not going to happen. If cruising goes down all of America will go down. And I recognize, this is what some want. Thank God certain recent situations worked out the way they did, because two decisions made by a current decision maker related to who ultimately decides what is allowed and what is not would look very different if some other person made the two decisions as to who ultimately decides what is allowed and what is not.