Robert M Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 all about Sorrento's and fees to eat there, anyone else get it? Cruisingmama, Mary Sue, PPPJJ-GCVAB and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 I haven't gotten it yet, but I don't even like that these questions exist. I would be a No and a Less Likely Starrynight0154, fireclan, USFFrank and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted August 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 those were my exact answers lol PPPJJ-GCVAB, USFFrank, JimnKathy and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSC Mike Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, Xaa said: I haven't gotten it yet, but I don't even like that these questions exist. I would be a No and a Less Likely Ditto. JimnKathy, fireclan, PPPJJ-GCVAB and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Was there a "oh hell no" option? Neesa, FloatyBoaty, asquared17 and 16 others 11 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireclan Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Wow. I mean, we're only talking about "okay" pizza. JimnKathy, Starrynight0154, SweetPea and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Miller Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Record earnings! Best quarter ever! You hear this and you think "Whew!" Maybe now they can stop the death by a thousand cuts that is killing my desire to book anything new. Nope! Let's see how fast and how far they can gut the core experience. This company under Mr. Liberty has me very much questioning my loyalty to cruising in general. They are going to keep pushing this and in five years they are going to wonder why all the repeat business has dried up. Montemy2419, Mary Sue, Carlos A. and 18 others 16 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Miller Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, fireclan said: Wow. I mean, we're only talking about "okay" pizza. I know right? They already took the Anti-Pasti away. Scaled the WJ way back. Gutted the MDR menu. Rolled back cleaning service. Doubled or tripled nearly every fee on Coco Cay. That mostly all happened the first month after Fain stepped down. I could have understood this stuff more when the restart first happened and they were actually just barely getting by. But it seemed like Fain was trying to protect the product. Now, it seems nothing is off limits and they are testing the waters to see how much they can get away with. It's a slippery slope. tingtang, Starrynight0154, cruisellama and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimnKathy Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Everyone knows that Sorrentos offers nothing close to the delicious wood-fired pizza found in thousands of pizza joints nationwide. I'd like to think these survey questions are merely being test-marketed to gauge guest response...hopefully the RCL marketing/finance folks hear the responses loud and clear. cruisellama, SweetPea, Xaa and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattycruise Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Not surprising. When people asked questions on the Presidents cruise-“Michael Bayley forum” that involved a potential to reduce costs etc he would often defer to his “numbers guy”, “crunching numbers” etc. yes, it’s a business-and since there’s record numbers the way we are accustomed to cruising will be changed, not necessary gonna like it. Eventually this will backfire on them. PS I suppose on my upcoming cruises I better start mentioning that I’ve eaten at Sorrentos (have pretty much cut that out) so I can be calculated in their count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Charging for Sorrento’s pizza would be a relatively small thing I guess, but it would frustrate me. Would it be a deal breaker? No, but it would factor into my decision making process when planning future cruises. Mary Sue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDaley Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Funny, I just took this survey but did not get served these questions since I didn’t say I went to Sorrento’s on the last ship I sailed (because there wasn’t one). I was interested in the section about them possibly adding Cuban, Thai, Chinese or Indian restaurants though! PPPJJ-GCVAB, asquared17 and rjweber3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjcruisers Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 I don't particularly like their pizza to begin with (haven't been able top drink enough to change my mine). LOL at question How would Sorrento's pizza being.... has the option More likely to cruise Royal Caribbean really? Pretty sure nobody will answer that. PPPJJ-GCVAB, PRMLVM, CruiseGus and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChessE4 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Charging for Sorrentos would be the beginning of the end for me. It would be like charging extra for dessert. Now I eat pizza on a cruise once per week, but on principle I'd oppose the charge. Carlos A., Mary Sue, new2cruzing and 5 others 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brdjnr Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 I have said this in a few other threads, cruising offered great value last few years and I have upped our number each year. Other vacation options (Vegas) nickel and dimed me to the point I stopped going. Is average pizza the straw? Probably not. I havent eaten there the last few cruises I have been on. But removing one of the few included dining options on Freedom class and below certainly won't help matters. Mary Sue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Ogre Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 This is exactly what Princess did and I said look out here it comes... did any one listen no!! Well here we are now. sammy79, tingtang, Kathleen and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmar02 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 I received a survey, but all the questions were suite related. The only food questions had to do with how important included specialty dining would be versus other suite amenities such as having genie or exclusive experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilley Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Well it looks like my next 4 cruises I have planned and paid for will be my last. I don’t think I will be able to keep up with the high prices and cutbacks. Then again if cruising is still cheaper than an all-inclusive resort. May have to find another way to vacation or be left doing staycations. Mary Sue, Montemy2419 and Starrynight0154 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLH Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, melmar02 said: I received a survey, but all the questions were suite related. The only food questions had to do with how important included specialty dining would be versus other suite amenities such as having genie or exclusive experiences. Would love to fill that one out! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Miller Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, teddy said: Charging for Sorrento’s pizza would be a relatively small thing I guess.. I agree. Problem is it would be one more thing in the litany of service cuts, price increases, and general degradation of the cruise product over a short amount of time. Pattycruise, Neesa, WAAAYTOOO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHardlyWait Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Oh, definitely less likely to choose Royal Caribbean. It's not even good. But the only hot late night offering. Carnival just put a midnight pizza, hot dog, etc buffet back on the table. That news story got my attention. Too much nickel and dime takes joy away. Starrynight0154, new2cruzing, Mary Sue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynBeth Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, DDaley said: Funny, I just took this survey but did not get served these questions since I didn’t say I went to Sorrento’s on the last ship I sailed (because there wasn’t one). I was interested in the section about them possibly adding Cuban, Thai, Chinese or Indian restaurants though! I got that survey today but did not do it as in the part it asked how much you make in a year there was no option for do not wish to answer and would not let me go on without answering. Pattycruise, Jolly Ogre, sk8erguy1978 and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisingmama Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Al Miller said: Record earnings! Best quarter ever! You hear this and you think "Whew!" Maybe now they can stop the death by a thousand cuts that is killing my desire to book anything new. Nope! Let's see how fast and how far they can gut the core experience. This company under Mr. Liberty has me very much questioning my loyalty to cruising in general. They are going to keep pushing this and in five years they are going to wonder why all the repeat business has dried up. Yup. My sentiments exactly. Last week, after coming back from my 10th RCCL cruise in 3 years was the first time I started researching land vacations... Options are VERY VERY attractive - especially with pricing and amenities offered, large sprawling rooms, enormous resorts with highly rated animation teams, pools you can actually swim in without having to rub into a stranger, Hot tubs with ample elbow room and NO ADD ON FEES! Also looked into NCL and even Carnival which are also coming in at much less. After my last cruise on Oasis in July I don't see the added value in paying for RCCL "enhanced" experience... Mary Sue, Neesa, Al Miller and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottD Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 It's THE only option for food after a certain time on most ships (except those weird sandwiches at Cafe promenade). And also the main source of food for my 11 yr old. I'd definitely be upset if they started charging...my kid would need a pizza package like we have for drinks Starrynight0154, asquared17, CruzOnBye and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus527 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, ScottD said: It's THE only option for food after a certain time on most ships (except those weird sandwiches at Cafe promenade). And also the main source of food for my 11 yr old. I'd definitely be upset if they started charging...my kid would need a pizza package like we have for drinks A pizza package! Such a great idea!!!! But hopefully not one RC looks into further... Mary Sue, Starrynight0154, Neesa and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 In related news, MSC is now charging for additional MDR entrees https://www.cruisehive.com/another-cruise-line-adds-main-dining-room-charges/108281 Neesa and asquared17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisingmama Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Cactus527 said: A pizza package! Such a great idea!!!! But hopefully not one RC looks into further... Pizza package, el loco package, park cafe package, towel package, ice package, milk package, cabin cleaning package etc etc etc Mary Sue, Starrynight0154, Gilley and 1 other 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisingmama Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: In related news, MSC is now charging for additional MDR entrees https://www.cruisehive.com/another-cruise-line-adds-main-dining-room-charges/108281 oh boy. cruising is never going to be the same.. I'm glad my kids got to experience some of the good times.. **Edit - cruising will only be the same for the affluent who care not about spending (some of those who are affluent still want value for their dollar). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandstromCruise Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Al Miller said: Record earnings! Best quarter ever! You hear this and you think "Whew!" Maybe now they can stop the death by a thousand cuts that is killing my desire to book anything new. Nope! Let's see how fast and how far they can gut the core experience. This company under Mr. Liberty has me very much questioning my loyalty to cruising in general. They are going to keep pushing this and in five years they are going to wonder why all the repeat business has dried up. Totally agree. Al Miller and Starrynight0154 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Of The Seas Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 Completed the survey. Looks like they're mining for additional shipboard $$$. Last trip was in a junior suite so that must have determined what questions you're to see. Where I could comment, suggested junior suite be given a couple of meaningful benefits; certainly I don't expect top tier stuff, but suite boarding access (denied that at Port Canaveral for Wonder, overzealous contract sheepherder) but maybe limited Concierge services or couple days access to Suite Lounge would be nice. Hope I wasn't too hard on RC when I commented supermarket frozen pizza was about equal to Sorrento's, again saying I wouldn't expect Giovanni caliber pizza, but they can do better. Starrynight0154, WAAAYTOOO and tingtang 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzywuzzy Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 The survey wanted to know if we would be interested in seeing Axe Throwing on board ships. Really? WAYNO, Neesa, ScottishRobbie and 5 others 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackham Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Cactus527 said: A pizza package! Such a great idea!!!! But hopefully not one RC looks into further... I'm kinda surprised Royal doesn't have a bar food/tapa/appetizer package which works at their bars which serve food or as an enhancement to the DBP. Cactus527, WAAAYTOOO and ScottD 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilley Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 Are you allowed to bring food from WJ or Sorrentos and sit and eat it at the bars on any of the ships? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattycruise Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Gilley said: Are you allowed to bring food from WJ or Sorrentos and sit and eat it at the bars on any of the ships? Yes. Windjammer closes at 9pm though. The only late night food is Sorrentos or cafe promenade. Robert M and ScottD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Grimaldi Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) Just back from a cruise on Oasis of the seas.. have not cruised for awhile, but I can certainly say that everything has gone downhill on..Royal Caribbean.. although our wait staff was wonderful the food was deplorable...just awful. And ship was way very crowded..but still had fun with my family Edited August 10, 2023 by Maria Grimaldi Correction tingtang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 At this point it's just a question on a survey. I think we're all a little worried because if they would charge for pizza, then none of the included food remains completely safe. Still it is only a survey question. They may be considering monetizing Sorrento's space in other ways and are trying to gauges the overall interest in the pizza with the questions set of do you eat the pizza and would you still if there was a cost. For me, I would rather they get rid of it completely before trying to charge for it. As they have been in cut mode, we'll see if the question turns into an actual charge and if so, I think it will change a lot of people's minds about cruising. not because we love the pizza, but because the camel's back can only hold so much straw. I'm hopeful that their survey will give them the information that guides them to leaving it as is. OCSC Mike, Starrynight0154, Neesa and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSC Mike Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Xaa said: At this point it's just a question on a survey. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 I think if they were 100% certain, they would just do it an not ask. The presence of the question though indicates that they would like to charge for it. While I'm all for a modular approach so those that don't want internet don't pay for it, those that don't want drink packages don't pay for them etc. Somehow this seems too modular to me and I would rather the cost of Sorrento's just be overhead and spread into all of the fares. I said in the Princess thread that I can see how their change bothers Princess customers, but to me, who hasn't cruised on Princess, it makes no difference. The same applies here. Of course it's going to bother us. The included food is a bedrock of the experience and we have a relationship with it. To those that never cruised, they'll probably not care one bit. If it ever does come to pass, it seems counter to the food court of more included options that is being added to Icon. it would also be counter to a primary area where RCI rates lower than their direct competitors NCL and Carnival. Casual included food. I hate that the genie is even out of the bottle. Time will answer all of our questions. Cakemeister, DDaley, WAAAYTOOO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snotarni Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 16 hours ago, Robert M said: all about Sorrento's and fees to eat there, anyone else get it? I got it... No way we're paying for Sorrento's... Starrynight0154 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilley Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 No, I didn’t get it but when I do the answer will be NO. Starrynight0154 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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