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Symphony 9/4 had ~2000 passengers, crew said the weeks before that they were running at 1,300.  They also said they were about to ramp up to 3,000 in the coming weeks, but looks like someone here already point out the 9/18 sailing only had 1,800 so I guess no one really knows for sure with future cruises.

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31 minutes ago, Cirasa said:

I guess no one really knows for sure with future cruises.

The crew does not even know until a couple days before the cruise. Best thing is to find a crew member or someone on the previous cruise and ask if they con find out a couple days before debarkation of the precious cruise. The number ar changing so rapidly with startup and cancelations of people testing positive or deciding not to go for other reasons.

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On 9/20/2021 at 12:36 PM, fa-li said:

I'm curious if there's a target date for full capacity cruises to resume?  Do we think by spring it will be like old times?  Or are they taking it more slowly?

Doubt there's a firm date - maybe a goal/objective.   Lower occupancy for the remainder of '21.  2022 is a new year, and if the CSO lifts (even though its voluntary from FL) , lines might lean forward with allowing more passengers.  More ships are coming on-line too - that will factor into possible loading.

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1 hour ago, PurdueFlyer said:

1231 sailing on Freeeom this week (4-nighter) per the Diamond concierge.  Ship capacity 4500.  

it's also the middle of the work week, in the middle of Hurricane season, but I thought it would be a leeeetle bit busier.  

We were in the same ballpark on the 9/20 sailing of Freedom for the 4 nighter. I remember hearing somewhere that we were right around 1,100 (but I had the drink package and my memory is the single point of failure in that process! 🙂)  and the crew was actually around 1,400 I think. 

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Capacity is in interesting metric to watch.  I'm sure cruise lines have profitability models built defining how many passengers are required for breakeven by ship or ship class.  As they bring more of the fleet on-line, you bring added operational expense, so you want to at least meet break-even on each one you bring on-line.   Anyone have insights into what those capacity levels are for a given ship or class?  

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I wonder if this is a limit set by the cruise line, or by Demand.  Has any one checked on cabin availability just prior to the cruise date?  Are the actually trying to sell more or does it show sold out?  For example, I just checked on the October 3 sailing of the Liberty out of Galveston, and it shows all types of rooms as available.  Not a conspiracy theory, but could they be hiding lack of demand as capacity limits?

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I think it is a combination of both. My Oct sailing protocols list reduce capacity as a thing. But also there are a bunch of people cancelling, hence them continuing to move final payments until 30 days. Lots of cruises have some sort of capacity restriction but I believe they are selling the rooms up until maybe 48hr beforehand.

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@travelerpete Nope, they release the capacity on the ship only. There isn't a way to be approximate anyways as people can be turned away at port. There may be cancellations all the way up to sailing, which is why they don't give a guest count until way after sail away. They didn't even do this before Covid.

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From what I heard onboard each ship has a gradual increase of occupancy till the end of the year, that does not mean there will be that many passengers as dates and circumstance will actually dictate bookings. I am not sure if they will just flip the switch next year back to 100% available occupancy or not.

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19 hours ago, MrMarc said:

I wonder if this is a limit set by the cruise line, or by Demand.  Has any one checked on cabin availability just prior to the cruise date?  Are the actually trying to sell more or does it show sold out?  For example, I just checked on the October 3 sailing of the Liberty out of Galveston, and it shows all types of rooms as available.  Not a conspiracy theory, but could they be hiding lack of demand as capacity limits?

My Freedom sailing in july was capacity locked, my Mariner sailings (last week and next week) had/have openings available.

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