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This is not really new for Princess; it's more of a cyclical thing for them (and Holland America). They tend to prefer to have their ships elsewhere in the summer. They only pull them back and keep them in the Caribbean when they don't think they can fill them in Europe or wherever.

RCL is not the only company that has run into issues with azipods. All the cruise lines have had issues. It's a "newer" technology (last 25 years or so), and more complicated then just a fixed propeller poking out of the hull.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing... nix the water park expansion and the neon color scheme (perhaps keep a smaller waterpark in the existing footprint). Touch zero mangrove trees, instead of the handful they were going to relocate. Get rid of the 'Perfect Day' branding, lean into the environment and Mexican culture. Kinda how Disney spun Lighthouse Point, but for the Bahamas.

I agree that in some cases measuring the ship by internal volume is irrelevant, such as having GT increase due to having an indoor pool on the top deck, vs having that pool open to the elements. However, if you are talking about pulling the lifeboats inboard, that is affecting the square footage of those decks impacted. That is space that could be used for public space, cabins, a bigger casino... Discovery class is supposed to "... be able to really focus on...the more exotic itineraries", which you would think means that the length and width of the ship are limited. For example, I don't think anything much longer or wider than Quantum Class can make it to Bermuda. If you recall, it was discovered late that Quantum was already too big for Bermuda, so the ship couldn't visit until dredging and widening the channel was done. [Bermuda Sun] I don't see RCL wanting this to happen again. So then we end up with a smaller GT then Quantum Class, perhaps smaller or the same overall dimensions of the ship, and less "square footage", but more passengers. Especially if Discovery continues the trend of Icon to have more 3rd/4th passenger cabins, and a "smaller" double capacity, but a larger "full" passenger capacity. What worries me then is that we may end up with a ship with a smaller than usual for RCL passenger/space ratio (and one that actually matters, not theoretical due to GT measurement "games") If I wanted to be packed like sardines on a ship, I'd sail Carnival. Especially not with the prices that RCL charges these days, which can be DCL level.

osx actually already has python installed by default: karl@Karls-MacBook-Air bin % pwd /usr/bin karl@Karls-MacBook-Air bin % ./python3 --version Python 3.9.6 karl@Karls-MacBook-Air bin % though it is usually an older release

I love the amount of QA @twangster has been providing over the past couple of days. He seems to have found every corner case issue around, with the myriad cruises he has booked...

But you can always count on whatever those WDW Bus Drivers say...

You can always ask for a glass of ice water instead. Not as easy to carry around, but it's free. I like it better then bottled water anyway, since it's colder.

Prima Class capacity is 3,300

Nope. Disney Adventure doesn't even go anywhere at all; they are all cruises to nowhere.

If this ship turns out to be 15% bigger than Quantum, I'm not sure what destination's it will be able to go to. Certainly not Bermuda.

Once we find out the size, we'll know how much Royal wants to actually focus on interesting ports, or if they are going to let Celebrity take over that part of the market.

I guess a ship 15% larger than Quantum actually could fix though the panama canal... Quantum is 169k gt, so 15% more would be 195k gt. Disney Adventure is apparently going though the canal, and she is 208k gt. I guess eventually we will find out if DisneyTreasureLover is right, and Discovery Class is a 195k gt ship that holds 4807-5640 passengers (15% bigger than Quantum)

so they gave up on the idea of it fitting though the panama canal?

If it's bigger than Quantum, then it probably will never be able to go to Bermuda. They had to dredge in order to get Quantum to fit North Channel to be dredged - The Royal Gazette | Bermuda News, Business, Sports, Events, & Community |