RCL_Cruiser_Dan Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 LCinPDX, Ogilthorpe, Galveston Steve and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCinPDX Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 I wonder how this will pan out. It seems like DeSantis is being a huge bully. If private businesses choose to have requirements that they believe will either keep customers safe or improve conditions, the state should not interfere. If anything, this seems like a higher level of governmental influence, which governers like DeSantis have been against. It's purely political grandstanding to get him on the Republican presidential ticket (IMO). All that being said, it does seem like RCL could make some arrangements for people who are unvaccinated, which may require more mask wearing and/or daily testing. RyanS, RCIfan1912, RWDW1204 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad2Cue Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 46 minutes ago, LCinPDX said: All that being said, it does seem like RCL could make some arrangements for people who are unvaccinated, which may require more mask wearing and/or daily testing. How will Royal know if they can't ask who is and who isn't vaccinated? This all seems silly to me because supposedly nobody will know who is vaccinated or not. It will just be a personal choice about what people want to do to protect themselves which is fine with me. It just seems more likely that there will be outbreaks of covid on cruise ships and then we will likely know who wasn't vaccinated. JBC1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrad Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 Best news I’ve heard all day!! fireclan, Mike P, DunkelBierJay and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGTLH Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, Dad2Cue said: How will Royal know if they can't ask who is and who isn't vaccinated? Nothing says they have to ask. Just apply a policy to everyone and make an exception to those who voluntarily provide proof. LCinPDX, sammy79 and CruiseGus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Whitmore Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 Most states require proof of vaccinations when a child enters school. Is Florida going to ban this too? MelKaps, Dad2Cue, Baked Alaska and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooch Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 If you WISH to show proof of vaccination, go this way. If not, go that way. sammy79, Dad2Cue, Neesa and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2021/06/05/royal-caribbean-drops-vaccine-mandate-us-cruises Cruising With JT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad2Cue Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 hour ago, CGTLH said: Just apply a policy to everyone and make an exception to those who voluntarily provide proof. One could argue that is the same as asking. I just hope the majority of people voluntarily provide proof. Somehow I don't think the new verbiage "strongly recommended" will be enough for many people but I could be wrong. 1 hour ago, Pooch said: If you WISH to show proof of vaccination, go this way. If not, go that way. I can envision a plexiglass tunnel disguised as a slide that leads off the ship! Personally, I don't have too many worries but the financial risks for Royal could be enormous. I can see a person who wasn't vaccinated suing Royal because they caught covid while on a cruise. CruiseGus, sammy79 and Pooch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaue Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt said: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2021/06/05/royal-caribbean-drops-vaccine-mandate-us-cruises So even CCL is joining NCL in requiring vaccines, see below. RCCL will be the only line not. It will be just a matter of time before a RCCL ship ruins it for everyone with covid outbreak. Stupidest move ever. https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/environmental-health/shift-covid-19-vaccination-thinking-carnival-cruise-line LCinPDX, CruiseGus, TXcruzer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorskin76 Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, Dad2Cue said: One could argue that is the same as asking. I just hope the majority of people voluntarily provide proof. Somehow I don't think the new verbiage "strongly recommended" will be enough for many people but I could be wrong. I can envision a plexiglass tunnel disguised as a slide that leads off the ship! Personally, I don't have too many worries but the financial risks for Royal could be enormous. I can see a person who wasn't vaccinated suing Royal because they caught covid while on a cruise. Someone could argue anything, but I think the winning argument would be that it satisfies the FL ban. I am sure Desantis would accept it as he would do a victory lap. 8 minutes ago, blaue said: So even CCL is joining NCL in requiring vaccines, see below. RCCL will be the only line not. It will be just a matter of time before a RCCL ruins it for everyone with covid outbreak. Stupidest move ever. https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/environmental-health/shift-covid-19-vaccination-thinking-carnival-cruise-line Time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCIfan1912 Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 Well we were cancelled just yesterday for our August cruise so we won't sail till next June the earliest. Do you think by then all of this and I mean all of this talk and these questions be gone by then? I'm really hoping now that we are forced to sit out even longer and won't sail to June 2022 this will all be gone and over by then. Zurc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurc Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, blaue said: So even CCL is joining NCL in requiring vaccines, see below. RCCL will be the only line not. It will be just a matter of time before a RCCL ship ruins it for everyone with covid outbreak. Stupidest move ever. https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/environmental-health/shift-covid-19-vaccination-thinking-carnival-cruise-line That’s interesting. My thought was Royal was backing off the vaccine requirement for 12+ as a response to Carnival (at first) not requiring vaccination. Now - will Royal reverse course again? Mandate vaccinations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorskin76 Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, Zurc said: That’s interesting. My thought was Royal was backing off the vaccine requirement for 12+ as a response to Carnival (at first) not requiring vaccination. Now - will Royal reverse course again? Mandate vaccinations? It’s definitely tough to be on an island, but I hope if they change course it’s only for 18+, and I understand for me that’s self serving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alztyrbn Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 I wasn't sure who would back down first, DeSantis or the cruise industry....well, we have an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXcruzer Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 3 hours ago, CGTLH said: Nothing says they have to ask. Just apply a policy to everyone and make an exception to those who voluntarily provide proof. The problem I have is the way this is going, we will all be treated as unvaccinated. The measures that go along with that label are more than I will tolerate given the amount of money invested. I took full refund now for my July 24 Symphony cancellation, and unfortunately will not be booking another Royal cruise until this is sorted out. Cruising With JT, Craig 01020 and Baked Alaska 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 01020 Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 Between home ports and vaccine requirements, you can't really count any anything Royal says because it will change next week. Seems like they're kissing Florida's butt here...at least for now. Make a policy and stick to it. JSB_Z51 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseGus Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, TXcruzer said: The problem I have is the way this is going, we will all be treated as unvaccinated. The measures that go along with that label are more than I will tolerate given the amount of money invested. I took full refund now for my July 24 Symphony cancellation, and unfortunately will not be booking another Royal cruise until this is sorted out. I can see the voluntarily show proof of vaccination or come be tested daily and Oh btw un-vacinated have to eat in this dining room at this time, no other option. you can only attend this show where masks will be required. There will be a special bar where the computer know you can get a drink that also requires masks, al other bars you are locked out of. By Royals own admission based on those surveys i have filled out a couple of times now, 80% percent of their customer want vaccinated cruises and even more 90% say they are already vaccinated. When will our country QUIT trying to make itself accomidate the minority and proceed with what the majority want. LCinPDX, Cruising With JT, JBC1 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBRSKI Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 So many unhinged people! Why is "Choice" and "Opinion" such a bad or incomprehensible words ? I suspect Disney will also follow RCCL! JSB_Z51 and DunkelBierJay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBRSKI Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 So when the vaccine was being required, people who agreed with this said to those who didn't "Then you don't have to cruise" Well , I guess now the shoe is on the other foot now! Galveston Steve, fireclan, AshleyDillo and 7 others 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, RBRSKI said: So many unhinged people! Why is "Choice" and "Opinion" such a bad or incomprehensible words ? I suspect Disney will also follow RCCL! That has been explained so many times, but we have all become so intrenched in our own opinions, no one is listening anymore. I agree the real danger is how much focus will be put on even a single case on a ship, that even if it's handled well, it could begin a new shutdown. And even if the US doesn't shut it down, many ports may not allow the ships to visit. No one knows what is going to happen, but the requirement of the vaccine initially would be much safer. So even if you don't want to take the vaccine or disclose whether you have or not, letting it happen that way for a few months at least would probably be better for everyone in the long run. Craig 01020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBRSKI Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 Here is an idea! And a real way to possibly have a test cruise! Have two Royal Ships! One with Vaccinated People One with unvaccinated People After the voyage see if any people pop positive because we all know vaccinated people can still test positive and carry Covid! JSB_Z51 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising With JT Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, RBRSKI said: Here is an idea! And a real way to possibly have a test cruise! Have two Royal Ships! One with Vaccinated People One with unvaccinated People After the voyage see if any people pop positive because we all know vaccinated people can still test positive and carry Covid! I actually want to see a full 7-night cruise happen (no test cruises). One is vaccinated with no masks and restrictions, One is unvaccinated with masks and restrictions. Tell me which one is more fun and which one you'd rather go on. CruiseGus, JBC1, Craig 01020 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBRSKI Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, johnt83 said: I actually want to see a full 7-night cruise happen (no test cruises). One is vaccinated with no masks and restrictions, One is unvaccinated with masks and restrictions. Tell me which one is more fun and which one you'd rather go on. Thank You for giving me a CHOICE, and I will pick number Two please. It really should have not been this complicated! I think if getting the vaccine wasn't shoved down peoples throats and where allowed to coexist on a cruise with vaccinated people, I think many of those un vaccinated passengers would be compliant with the rules imposed upon them. jticarruthers and Mike P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising With JT Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, RBRSKI said: Thank You for giving me a CHOICE, and I will pick number Two please. It really should have not been this complicated! I think if getting the vaccine wasn't shoved down peoples throats and where allowed to coexist on a cruise with vaccinated people, I think many of those un vaccinated passengers would be compliant with the rules imposed upon them. Everyone has an idea of what a cruise looks like for them going forward. If you're down with the restrictions, please have a good time! And I get what you mean about vaccines being shoved down people's throats, let's just say there was a reason for that... Craig 01020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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