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6 hours ago, Ampurp85 said:

@Crazycruiser50 Well that sucks if that is the case. I cannot travel during the summer so my next cruise is in October. I highly doubt, if available, most cruise lines will not start as soon as they can. It could be ship and itinerary related as August is almost 6 months away....I cannot fathom that cruising would be able to survive that long without any sailings. I won't be delusional and say April but I also won't be pessimistic and say July either.

August is 4 months away, but it makes sense to send crew members home and not pay for food and supplies while receiving no income.  What does Royal have now a days? 26 ships?  Average 1500 crew per ship.  That’s 39,000 mouths to feed out of their pocket.  Might as well send them home and call them back when things appear to be recovering.  I am sad about it, but I am also hoping to be able to feed my family next week too.  None of us could have planned for this.  It is just a reminder of how fragile this life is.  Enjoy every moment you can!  

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Purely a guess.  I will go with 1 July 2020

Personally, I do not believe a single word of anything coming out of China.  I think the chances that they have -0- new cases is -0-.  They've just quit testing.

Or maybe Royal will do a good thing like DCL and push back final payment dates by 30 days. 😉

If they are expecting to be down for 3 months, I can see the logic and it confirms that they do not believe they will be cruising in April or even May. There is just no way you are getting a full crew back on board on 26 ships by the 1st of May. There is also the possibility that not all will come back and I would be surprised if they would be fully staffed. I think we will likely see a staggered approach when they start. 10 ships to begin with etc..

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it seems it takes about 2 mths to peek and then drop off based on what we have seen so far.....so that would be about mid May.....then a few more weeks before they start to relax some rules....that's early June.....start up probably July then...….that makes the most sense if the outbreak here follows what seems to be the trend so far

 

Looking like that cruise in May to Bermuda I was hoping to take to replace the cruise in April I am going to lose wont happen either now....

 

 

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My bet will be June 15th, maybe June1st.  If we follow China's dates.  It was 4 months until they finally did not register 1 new case.  It really is going to depend on how Americans behave in the next few weeks.  If people stay at home and follow social distancing than it could be earlier.  If people keep acting like this is not "real" than it would be longer.

I think your 1st idea of how soon they will be back will come from Vegas.  Not talking betting, but when they start opening their hotels again.  

Remember there is for many cruisers a 2nd factor....flying to the port.  The airline industry is cancelling many flights.

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12 hours ago, Neesa said:

06 June 2020 the first Saturday of the month.

We are not cancelling our 28 June 2020 so if RCCL cancels we will take the 125% FCC and apply to the Thanksgiving sailing. Just saw DCL pushed final payments for their summer sailings back 30 days. I wonder if RCCL is considering this? My balance is due at the end of this month, I guess we will see. (Always pay balance last possible moment, nothing worse then the feeling of missing a price drop because you paid the balance early.)

 

 

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14 hours ago, Marlena said:

I'm certainly not trying to start a fight, but I'm interested at when people think we are likely to be able to resume cruise vacations?? ( and please everyone remember this is just peoples opinions or guesses....stay nice! Lol)

I just received an e-mail that Qantas is suspending flights until at least May 20, so I don't expect cruises in the South Pacific or Australia until July-August.  Just a guess.  As for the US, I expect cruising to restart by Labor Day.  The issue in starting earlier would be the unwillingness of ports to allow visitors.  Sadly, I believe much of Europe will be down until next year.  Maybe Greece will be OK?

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I don't think anyone has enough clear vision of where society is heading to accurately guess a date.

Once it peaks globally and begins to decline and stays trending downward then at that point in time plus 4 - 6 weeks is when cruise lines can begin to think about starting operations on a limited basis.  

Until it's in our rear view mirror there will be no cruising.  

If the cruise lines jump the start line and COVID-19 flares up again then once again cruise ships will be front page news and they can't afford for that to happen.  

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I am someone that wants to see the glass half full.  Personally, if I lived near a port and could sail with last minute notice, I would kind of be excited.  I am pretty sure that they would be offering some great deals to fill up the ships for the 1st few weeks that they go back out because of all of the cancellations and like ChessE4 mentioned, airlines may not be back up in  the US.

~ Look at China, it is now the 2nd day in row that they have finally announced no new virus patients.  In essence, that would be 4 months from the 1st reporting patient.    For us, if people follow guidelines and do the right thing, plus warmer weather, maybe we could be 3 months.  That places us at mid June for no new reporting.

Now here are the problems I see:

  1.  Do they do a slow roll out?  IE Harmony goes back on line, but smaller ships like Enchantment do not, hoping that they can force passengers onto one ship over another (cabin occupancy).  
  2.  U.S.  may open up, but that does not mean Canada will open at the same time.  I.E.  Anthem, Adventure, Oasis, Grandeur do the NE/Canada flip to Bermuda/Bahamas during the summer.  If one of these ports cannot reopen than they will be facing docking issues.  Look at Cape Liberty.  Anthem docks one day, Adventure another.  
  3.  Hotels.  Just like ChessE4 mentioned regarding airlines, the same is true for hotels.  Many passengers that cruise come into that area a day prior to the cruise.  They may now be stuck with being able to fly in, but not finding a room at any inn since hotels may roll out slower than airlines. or vise a versa.

JMPO, but I see them rolling them all out at once regardless of capacity.  They will want to make a powerful statement.  Plus,, I would think ships are like cars.  My hubby is retired military.  Everytime he was deployed for 6+ mos.  he reminded me that I needed to drive his car every 2 weeks just to keep the engine going, or tires moving.  

 

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28 minutes ago, Pima1988 said:

I am someone that wants to see the glass half full.  Personally, if I lived near a port and could sail with last minute notice, I would kind of be excited.  I am pretty sure that they would be offering some great deals to fill up the ships for the 1st few weeks that they go back out because of all of the cancellations and like ChessE4 mentioned, airlines may not be back up in  the US.

~ Look at China, it is now the 2nd day in row that they have finally announced no new virus patients.  In essence, that would be 4 months from the 1st reporting patient.    For us, if people follow guidelines and do the right thing, plus warmer weather, maybe we could be 3 months.  That places us at mid June for no new reporting.

Now here are the problems I see:

  1.  Do they do a slow roll out?  IE Harmony goes back on line, but smaller ships like Enchantment do not, hoping that they can force passengers onto one ship over another (cabin occupancy).  
  2.  U.S.  may open up, but that does not mean Canada will open at the same time.  I.E.  Anthem, Adventure, Oasis, Grandeur do the NE/Canada flip to Bermuda/Bahamas during the summer.  If one of these ports cannot reopen than they will be facing docking issues.  Look at Cape Liberty.  Anthem docks one day, Adventure another.  
  3.  Hotels.  Just like ChessE4 mentioned regarding airlines, the same is true for hotels.  Many passengers that cruise come into that area a day prior to the cruise.  They may now be stuck with being able to fly in, but not finding a room at any inn since hotels may roll out slower than airlines. or vise a versa.

JMPO, but I see them rolling them all out at once regardless of capacity.  They will want to make a powerful statement.  Plus,, I would think ships are like cars.  My hubby is retired military.  Everytime he was deployed for 6+ mos.  he reminded me that I needed to drive his car every 2 weeks just to keep the engine going, or tires moving.  

 

Definitely helps living near a port as airlines adds an additional challenge.

It's definitely good news about China.  Let's hope they stay like that and other countries follow with less and less cases.

Good points above.  For #1...our next cruise is a 4 night on Mariner.  Wonder about this ship and Navigator since they mostly hit their private island which is good revenue for Royal.  (Ours even hits it twice).

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55 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said:

Personally, I do not believe a single word of anything coming out of China.  I think the chances that they have -0- new cases is -0-.  They've just quit testing.

sadly this is so true.. They quit testing + I would multiply their death toll by 10. 

 

Anyway,  This is day 8 since kids school closed.. with no end in sight.  getting tired.

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