twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 SebagoSue, jticarruthers, teddy and 8 others 1 1 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattycruise Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Wow, I can’t wait to see what this means!! iuki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattycruise Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Well I know what it means, I mean any changes that will be made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 I think it means that cruise lines will need to set policies. CDC will publish recommendations like other forms of travel have. It's up to the cruise lines now. iuki and jticarruthers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deniseuttley Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Let's hope no pre cruise tests twangster, CharmMicah68, iuki and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swar Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, deniseuttley said: Let's hope no pre cruise tests and no vaccines! PPPJJ-GCVAB, Shari, jticarruthers and 10 others 7 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Wow. That was unexpected. If I'm king of the cruise world I would immediately: 1) eliminate pre-cruise testing. But give some perks or enticements to those who show up with a negative test in hand. 2) eliminate special quarantine cabins. No reason for them, even if you still want people to quarantine in their booked cabin if they test positive on board. Those things need to be sold, not set aside just in case. 3) taper down to a date where you get rid of the need to quarantine at all. I'm not sure you could do that immediately 4) scrap the 90% rule. Again like #1, give enticement and perks to those who are vaccinated, but let the unvaccinated back on board. LovetoCruise87, starbrat, Swar and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 They also scrapped the cruise ship color coding system starbrat, Pattycruise and WAAAYTOOO 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorCruiser Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 I’m just here for the comments DarinM, Bowen, RWDW1204 and 8 others 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate91 Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Literally just danced around the house with my wife. Also...the CDC just VOLUNTARILY gave up power? There's gotta be more to the story. But I will be in my mental Viking Crown Lounge celebrating! Bowen, WAAAYTOOO, Swar and 6 others 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackham Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Wow. That was unexpected. If I'm king of the cruise world I would immediately: 1) eliminate pre-cruise testing. But give some perks or enticements to those who show up with a negative test in hand. 2) eliminate special quarantine cabins. No reason for them, even if you still want people to quarantine in their booked cabin if they test positive on board. Those things need to be sold, not set aside just in case. 3) taper down to a date where you get rid of the need to quarantine at all. I'm not sure you could do that immediately 4) scrap the 90% rule. Again like #1, give enticement and perks to those who are vaccinated, but let the unvaccinated back on board. I'm going to assume mandatory quarantining for COVID will still be in place like any other contagious disease aboard. For example, they're not letting people with norovirus shoot craps in the casino. SeekingSun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate91 Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rackham said: I'm going to assume mandatory quarantining for COVID will still be in place like any other contagious disease aboard. For example, they're not letting people with norovirus shoot craps in the casino. Would not recommend the norovirus craps. Vancity Cruiser, WAAAYTOOO, CharmMicah68 and 15 others 3 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, nate91 said: But I will be in my mental Viking Crown Lounge celebrating! I was actually in a Viking Crown Lounge when I learned the news teddy, RWDW1204, Patchy and 11 others 4 1 2 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBHMM Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 What site did you get that from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 I am envisioning a scene from an old Western movie where the cruise lines are standing around the O.K. Corral waiting to see who fires first. They are nervously watching each other, waiting for a flinch. Once one cruise lines drops testing or vaccine requirements the others will quickly follow. Who will flinch first? Neesa, AspiringCruisePlanner, Goknolz and 17 others 11 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officiallyjohno Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 It's interesting viewing this as a UK resident and (full disclosure) a doctor. How RC deals with this now they are given ownership will be interesting, as undoubtedly it's going to demonstrate a commercial view rather than political, or health view on the pandemic protocols. Even if Covid is viewed in a similar was to Norovirus etc., you would still expect quarantining to exist on board. The predominance in the population currently, might mean that screening remains an effective tool commercially to maintain the confidence of passengers. Arguably antigen testing is currently around the £15-20 mark in the UK ($20-30) and I do wonder why they don't just bundle the cost in with your trip to remove the financial concerns. Where RC finds the balance will be interesting! twangster, mianmike, Carlos A. and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moby Dick Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 The cruise lines will have to come up with their own protocols. We'll see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, BBHMM said: What site did you get that from CDC website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moby Dick Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2022/07/18/cdc-ends-covid-19-program-cruise-ships BTW, I know this is brand new. But, I just looked into Royal's FAQ and nothing has changed. You'd think that they would be ready to go with this kind of change and just tap a computer button and there it is, their new policy/protocol that was probably written up days, weeks, months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2022/07/18/cdc-ends-covid-19-program-cruise-ships Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFFrank Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 While this is all fine and dandy, lest we forget there are country's these ships visit that will still require the shots and negative test results for any guest who would like to go ashore. So I really wouldn't expect any changes anytime soon. Vancity Cruiser, rjweber3, CruiseGus and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 I think things will remain the same through the end of the year. Right now the possibility of a large outbreak and the resulting bad press is too much of a risk, and many of the ports will have to change their requirements before it will even be possible for the cruise lines to change. But as we all know, covid changes can change quickly and often. I have an august 10 cruise to Alaska scheduled, and I'm not expecting any changes. USFFrank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, USFFrank said: While this is all fine and dandy, lest we forget there are country's these ships visit that will still require the shots and negative test results for any guest who would like to go ashore. So I really wouldn't expect any changes anytime soon. Shots yes. But negative tests for the vaccinated are disappearing. Bradinmississippi and rjweber3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseGus Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 hours ago, twangster said: I think it means that cruise lines will need to set policies. CDC will publish recommendations like other forms of travel have. It's up to the cruise lines now. A lot will depend on how all the Ports of Call now react to the news and any pressure that can be put on them by their peers to continue with their tourist economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Bahamas is a good start. If Bahamas can go without testing it opens the door for all short 3/4 cruises to drop testing and/or vaccines. jticarruthers, WAAAYTOOO, sk8erguy1978 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 There are some aspects that don't start with ports such as crew policies and quarantine cabins USCG Teacher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Is this because Fauci announced retirement? csrsue, CharmMicah68, CruiserNic and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 49 minutes ago, cruisellama said: Is this because Fauci announced retirement? I thought he was staying through midterms at a minimum. He isn't CDC either. mianmike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Fauci's retirement isn't until the end of Biden's term. Kata and DublinFC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Fauci's retirement isn't until the end of Biden's term. 14 minutes ago, twangster said: I thought he was staying through midterms. He isn't CDC either. Yes. But who knows if he has internal clout anymore, especially as he's been out a while with the bug (with published set-backs). When a controversial leader announces retirement, the underlings start jockeying for notoriety and position. Could be someone just pulling a trigger early. mianmike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 I heard Princess announced they are allowing up to 10% unvax. That announcement today is starting to make sense. I was wondering how they were going to do that and comply. Swar and WAAAYTOOO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, twangster said: I heard Princess announced they are allowing up to 10% unvax. That announcement today is starting to make sense. I was wondering how they were going to do that and comply. 10% unvax was already part of the CDC framework though. Pattycruise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, cruisellama said: Yes. But who knows if he has internal clout anymore, especially as he's been out a while with the bug (with published set-backs). When a controversial leader announces retirement, the underlings start jockeying for notoriety and position. Could be someone just pulling a trigger early. He isn't in tne reporting hiarchy of the CDC. Different agency. I've never heard him get deeply involved over cruise ships. cruisellama, rjweber3 and mianmike 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: 10% unvax was already part of the CDC framework though. Yes but with other restrictions. Mask free required 95% for example. cruisellama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, twangster said: Yes but with other restrictions. Mask free equired 95% for example. You're spot on, but any forward looking "optics" is welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHollyS Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Moby Dick said: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2022/07/18/cdc-ends-covid-19-program-cruise-ships BTW, I know this is brand new. But, I just looked into Royal's FAQ and nothing has changed. You'd think that they would be ready to go with this kind of change and just tap a computer button and there it is, their new policy/protocol that was probably written up days, weeks, months ago. Your desiring a LOT from the RC IT staff to have a change that fast! rjweber3, SpeedNoodles, RWDW1204 and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmMicah68 Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 .....this is LONG LONG LONG OVERDUE.....a cruise line deciding today or tomorrow in relative time terms....is FAR from going fast. This was inevitable and they could change it overnight. We all could ink the press release. Yes, it is that simple. If a country only allows vax/tested....then individuals can prove it, or we can keep our precious and much needed $ on the ship. RCCL can single out on my SeaPass whether I have the drink package, what room I have, a picture, etc.. They can certainly state vax/tested for those countries that need it. Until then, take me to Coco Cay and keep the rest. Loops, Swar, WAAAYTOOO and 4 others 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 OMG please let this mean the end of vaccines and testing, please. CruiserNic, Snotarni, Shari and 11 others 9 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, CharmMicah68 said: .....this is LONG LONG LONG OVERDUE.....a cruise line deciding today or tomorrow in relative time terms....is FAR from going fast. This was inevitable and they could change it overnight. We all could ink the press release. Yes, it is that simple. If a country only allows vax/tested....then individuals can prove it, or we can keep our precious and much needed $ on the ship. RCCL can single out on my SeaPass whether I have the drink package, what room I have, a picture, etc.. They can certainly state vax/tested for those countries that need it. Until then, take me to Coco Cay and keep the rest. Here here! fireclan and CruiserNic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 I am asking a lot, and I know it won't happen, but if they would make some changes and not leave the testing/vax protocols in place through September that would be awesome. Even give a little, like no more testing if you're vaccinated, antigen tests if you're unvaccinated, something. CharmMicah68, PPPJJ-GCVAB, CruiserNic and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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