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I have this on two cards...which is an amazing deal, but I'm not cruising right now. Bummer, wish I could take advantage.

My cruise on 2/4 has a final payment date of 10/27. So however many days that is.

So they're suspending final payment after most guests have made final payment? Seems a little pointless. I have two February cruises that this would be nice for, as I don't like the current protocols, but my final payment is due in early October. What's the point?

I called in yesterday and spent 2.5 hours trying to get two FCCs applied. One was from three months ago and still has not been applied, Royal had to speak with a supervisor to get that one taken care of.

I have a possible example of the "cruising public." I am planning a bachelor/bachelorette cruise in November (on Carnival, but their protocols are pretty similar). Around 16 people total, most of whom have never cruised before or only once. I reached out today to let them know about cruising protocols and rules, and how they would feel if the current rules still held in November. About half were willing to put up with the protocols, with about half preferring to either reschedule the cruise for a later date when things would (hopefully) be less strict, or cancel the cruise outright. So maybe that's a good reference for the "cruising public?"

Keep it on cruises or we're going to have another thread lockdown...we're all tired of lockdowns! ?

I think these two together about sum it up.

So...the CSO is invalid in FL and TX? I agree with @twangster, this has gotten to the point that it's ridiculous!

I disagree vehemently! ?

I would go with c. I also agree with cruisellama that cleaning is important, but I think we can all agree that RC has been VERY good at keeping things clean even pre-pandemic. I think that at some point, we will all need to go back to weighing individual risks whenever we do any activity, whether it's going on a cruise or crossing a street. The vaccines are protective, so if I'm vaccinated, I don't much care who else is or is not.

I'd love to see a poll of the members of RCBlog, asking whether people, if given the choice, would choose: a. a fully vaccinated cruise ship b. a mixed cruise ship, vaccination status not required c. a 2019 cruise ship, run exactly the same as a pre-pandemic cruise.

I'm wondering if any health and safety protocols will change now that the 95% number is simply a recommendation.

I guess we know now, wristbands will be required and a hole will be punched in the SeaPass card. Does anyone else feel very uncomfortable with the separate venues and areas for the two different classes of people? Makes me very uneasy.

I think this brings up a BIG problem with vaccinated cruises. Obviously by requiring vaccination, you are excluding a large portion of the potential customers already. Now, with positive cases happening on a fully vaccinated cruise, will fully vaccinated cruisers be willing to take the risk of having their vacation abruptly ended due to what's either a false positive, or a correct positive? Even if they are indeed COVID positive, the fact that everyone else on that ship is fully vaccinated means that COVID will not spread based on the evidence we know now. So what does kicking people off the ship accomplish, aside from a PR perspective? I would think from a PR perspective that there are some vaccinated people who would choose not to cruise due to the chance of something like this happening.

The CDC has demonstrated...I don't know what exactly, confusion, ineptitude...by measuring cases in one way for COVID and in another way entirely for those vaccinated. This creates a cognitive dissonance that is clearly showing what the CDC would like the results to be. I wonder what would happen if we measured in reverse and tested vaccinated like the unvaxxed and vice versa. Bringing it around to cruises, I'm sure the cruise lines would love to test based on the lower PCR thresholds for the vaccinated, and do the new CDC rule of not counting a case unless it leads to a hospitalization. That would surely help their news exposure.