danv3

Correct. Assuming the T&C say what the article indicates, this case should be dismissed and refiled in England.

Fascinating chart on pages 9-15 of the things they plan to keep long-term vs. the things that can be scaled back as conditions improve. For example, ship or "verified" excursions is only for "the initial return to sailing" but better air filters and some changes to the medical facilities are intended to be permanent.

If you want to see the kind of comments the CDC actually cares about, go here: https://www.royalcaribbeangroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Healthy-Sail-Panel_Full-Recommendations_9.21.20_FINAL.pdf Of course that doesn't mean that CDC will ultimately accept all those recommendations, but that's something that they will seriously review and engage with.

The CDC won't care about those comments any more than they care about the pro-cruise comments. This isn't a vote or popularity contest. They're only asking for comments because they're legally required to do so.

This is kind of what I foresee at least until people get more used to it. Unless they expect port security to enforce the rule for them and turn people away at the gate. I guess we'll see.

Will be interesting to see how "enforcing arrival times" works in practice.

There are a lot of practical problems to overcome before mass pre-cruise testing is viable. Even the new "rapid" test takes 30 minutes and requires a lab to process the sample. While that's far better than 3-5 days, it's not a do-it-yourself almost instantaneous test like a pregnancy test or something. Where do people sit and wait while their tests are out? What happens when one of them tests positive? Obviously that person (and his/her party?) are excluded from the cruise, right? Or do they get a chance to retest? What about people who stood near them in the security line or sat ne

Moderna's goal is a 60% effective COVID vaccine. Better than the flu vaccine, but worse than many others. Future versions of the COVID vaccine may be more effective, but we're years away from a truly effective vaccine.

Exactly the kind of response that will be read once and logged (because they legally have to) and then completely ignored. The CDC doesn't want this guy's opinion, or yours or mine. They're asking because they're required to. The kinds of responses they'll actually consider will be 10+ pages long and will present data and realistic solutions. Random internet submissions? They may read a few of them for laughs.

Asking for public comment is just one part of the administrative process...just a box CDC has to check. They know how to log and then ignore comments from people who don't know what they're talking about. They'll only really consider and address comments from people who might provide meaningful input.

Responses due by September 21, 2020. Draw your own conclusions as to what that means for cruises restarting October 1.

JMO, but I think November 1 would be pretty optimistic. September 16? No chance.

Gains? LOL I wish.

This is what I do every time (excluding only private islands and US territories). Sometimes I hear people say that if you leave your passports in the safe and you’re about to miss the ship, RCI will search your stateroom, find the passports, and then deliver them to the shore agent to hold. Personally, I’d never expect or rely on that.

Wish they'd expand the Freestyle machines, not get rid of them or make them less convenient to use. Love the options and the soft drinks from the bars have always tasted "off" to me on cruises.