RBRSKI Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Think about the money it's gonna take Princess to decon the Diamond. I would think insurance may pay for some or all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveinSC Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, RBRSKI said: I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but it's only going to get worse! Hold on tight, it's gonna be a hell of a ride! I absolutely agree its going to get worse.....but still not near enough for me to adjust my travel plans. Google "SARS outbreak 2002" and see if it sounds familiar. I cruised in 2002, also. lol Ogilthorpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 44 minutes ago, sk8erguy1978 said: If I purchase today for my September & December cruises and they didn't cover me catching Coronavirus I'd be raising hell. The cruiseline will deny you boarding in this case and refund you, so insurance doesn't need to cover that part, though. sk8erguy1978 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8erguy1978 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: The cruiseline will deny you boarding in this case and refund you, so insurance doesn't need to cover that part, though. Thanks, I didn't read the update put out by Royal Caribbean, but it does state: Quote "All guests who are denied boarding due to these restrictions will receive full refunds."https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/itinerary-updates My comment was more against an insurance company trying to get out of coverage, could be for anything, replace Coronavirus with Flu because I didn't get a flu shot they will not reimburse me. (Not saying that's true. It's just a wild example, since it's in the insurance companies best interest to collect premiums and not pay out LOL). Edited February 26, 2020 by sk8erguy1978 add stuff, clarify, add link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia Posted February 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I’m going to ride it out for 1.5 weeks and monitor the situation and see whether RC themselves will comment or do anything (cancel). At the rate that the virus is going, situation can change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEbluebird Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I'm more worried about taking the airplane flight since the air is recycled. I think we will be wearing masks on the plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, sk8erguy1978 said: My comment was more against an insurance company trying to get out of coverage, could be for anything, replace Coronavirus with Flu because I didn't get a flu shot they will not reimburse me. (Not saying that's true. It's just a wild example, since it's in the insurance companies best interest to collect premiums and not pay out LOL). Well that's entirely true...if your doctor makes the claim that you can't travel for X reason, then X reason needs to be a condition that's not excluded in your insurance policy and it also can't be as a result of something that was pre-existing if you don't have pre-existing coverage under your policy. Trust me, the insurance companies definitely don't make it easy to file for any kind of claim, and even things that you think are cut and dry might be a NOPE sk8erguy1978 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason12 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I had to post this I saw on twitter I’m actually more scared of catching the noro again, jeez I was ill with that on the QM2 RWDW1204, Ben10, monctonguy and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jason12 said: I had to post this I saw on twitter I’m actually more scared of catching the noro again, jeez I was ill with that on the QM2 Sorry, everyone knows you can't wear white after Labor Day. What was this guest thinking? RWDW1204, Jason12, SteveinSC and 6 others 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 As of today (2/26/2020) you are at greater risk of DYING in an accident from your drive to port or the airport in the US. The sky is NOT falling, Chicken Little. Good luck. Okgladgal, SteveinSC and Jason12 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, twangster said: Sorry, everyone knows you can't wear white after Labor Day. What was this guest thinking? It doesn’t have to be white! Ben10, AshleyDillo, Ogilthorpe and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason12 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Baked Alaska said: As of today (2/26/2020) you are at greater risk of DYING in an accident from your drive to port or the airport in the US. The sky is NOT falling, Chicken Little. Good luck. 28 died putting on their pants in the UK last year SteveinSC, Okgladgal, Momof4crazytocruise and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I have a question about this virus. People already know how deadly and contagious it is. Why is it still spreading? Ogilthorpe and SteveinSC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okgladgal Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 OMG! I'm laughing too hard to quote everyone! Baked Alaska, Ogilthorpe, SpeedNoodles and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 All fun and games till it affects you or someone you know or love....... Between thousands of peoples travels plans ruined......oh and thousands dying......Royal stock diving...markets diving......Olympics could be cancelled....and it hasn't even really started to affect North America......perhaps we shouldn't be so lighthearted about this. It kills at a much higher rate than the flu(around 18x higher than the flu right now)..so simply saying the flu kills more people each year is a very flippant way to try and minimalize this outbreak... LizzyBee23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, monctonguy said: It kills at a much higher rate than the flu(around 18x higher than the flu right now)..so simply saying the flu kills more people each year is a very flippant way to try and minimalize this outbreak... Any new virus that isn't known and has no vaccine (yet) is going to produce short term numbers that exceed those of a well known and long term virus like influenza. How about we compare the first year influenza fatality rate? There are some trying to sensationalize this incident and blow it out of proportion , some that are minimizing it and some that waiting to see how it plays out without letting FUD rule the day. ctwilliams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, twangster said: Any new virus that isn't known and has no vaccine (yet) is going to produce short term numbers that exceed those of a well known and long term virus like influenza. Yup......true point. Still true that its killing at a much higher rate than the flu..and there will be no vaccine for prob a year.,...so to all those that die from it in the meantime...just know that its not as bad as the 1800's...... Nice...... I don't get why people are so nonchalant about people dying....blows my mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, monctonguy said: I don't get why people are so nonchalant about people dying....blows my mind... I understand. It blows my mind that people are overreacting and blowing it out of proportion when the numbers suggest it's starting to settle down. If that trend holds true then the influenza fatality rate will once again exceed CV. It's too early to call it either way. Pulling a hedgehog out of the ground to predict the outcome is premature at this point. joshgates, ctwilliams, Ogilthorpe and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellcee Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, twangster said: some that waiting to see how it plays out without letting FUD rule the day. Me. I work in NYC and take mass transit. I wouldn't say I'm not worried but I need more information before I get too concerned or else I'm going to be a nervous wreck being around so many people. It's how I cope and I know I'm not the only one. twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Nonchalant is a silly comment. So little is known. Figures are all over the place. Sensationalism is running rampant. If it was that terrible we would all be dead soon so you might as well stock up on food and stay home. You can be the lone survivor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, BB1 said: Nonchalant is a silly comment. So little is known. Figures are all over the place. Sensationalism is running rampant. If it was that terrible we would all be dead soon so you might as well stock up on food and stay home. You can be the lone survivor. Nice.... Nothing I stated is blown out of proportion or doomsday or implies I am going to be the only survivor while the world dies.. I have stated facts and am making totally rational comments and statements about people dying..... Come on...be more mature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Hysteria can cause more disruptions and result in a lot more deaths than this virus. Ogilthorpe, joshgates, SpeedNoodles and 3 others 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Tule Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Ok I give up WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditchdoc Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Just try to find an N95 face mask for sale. Out of stock with no dates for availability pretty much everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, BB1 said: Hysteria can cause more disruptions and result in a lot more deaths than this virus. Any stats on recent deaths from hysteria that comes close to thousands of people dying who are NOT dying from hysteria but from the Coronavirus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FManke Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 I'm just approaching this whole situation like this. It's too early to panic, but not too early to be concerned. Kathleen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mljstr Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 My concern is the unknown as far as international travel and specifically our April 12 TA cruise to Southampton. I would play it safe and cancel but we are at the 75% cancellation mark. I also have air tickets, hotels, tours, etc that are non refundable or have hefty change fees. My insurance doesn’t pay for FEAR of coronovirus. I have decided to wait and see until April 1. Surely RCCL will know by then if the cruise is a go or will be canceled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveinSC Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 I just really dont understand......I wish people cared about CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE the way they care about some virus.....its exponentially more likely to kill you. Yet, the same people canceling cruises out of fear are lining up at McDonalds for a sack of burgers, killing themselves happily. joshgates, Ogilthorpe, Baked Alaska and 5 others 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Ogre Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, SteveinSC said: I just really dont understand......I wish people cared about CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE the way they care about some virus.....its exponentially more likely to kill you. Yet, the same people canceling cruises out of fear are lining up at McDonalds for a sack of burgers, killing themselves happily. That or diabetes, smoking, using the phone while driving, driving while intoxicated....the list can go on and on about things we can control. SpeedNoodles, Marlena, joshgates and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadamG2U Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, ellcee said: Me. I work in NYC and take mass transit. I wouldn't say I'm not worried but I need more information before I get too concerned or else I'm going to be a nervous wreck being around so many people. It's how I cope and I know I'm not the only one. I am in the same boat. I don't want to jump the gun but I do want to be prepared. ellcee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockerDom31 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Best we can do is to try and live a healthy lifestyle - which is hard to do for some. I can't tell you the amount of times I have seen people not wash their hands after using the restroom or after sneezing or after changing the garbage or so on and so on. I had a student one time who sneezed straight up into the air and I unfortunately saw the plume of fluid just spreading everywhere. Anyway - I think there should be a healthy level of "worry" about the Coronavirus, but there's not much we can do about it except to stay accurately informed and to practice good hygiene. Mrs. RoyalMoyal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizzyBee23 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 7:57 AM, emsff02 said: Don’t worry about to corona virus. Regular flu has been much deadlier so far. Just practice good hygiene. Wash your hands often and you will be just fine. Saying this is just plain misinformation at this point. The flu is not deadlier. What we know about COVID-19 suggests it's at least 10-20x deadlier than this year's flu. monctonguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveinSC Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, LizzyBee23 said: Saying this is just plain misinformation at this point. The flu is not deadlier. What we know about COVID-19 suggests it's at least 10-20x deadlier than this year's flu. ....and still not nearly as deadly as MANY, MANY other things that arent mentioned ONE time on this board. Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizzyBee23 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 hours ago, twangster said: ...when the numbers suggest it's starting to settle down. Europe and the American West Coast would like a word. I understand wanting to keep travel plans in tact, I really do. We will be beyond disappointed if we get into a situation where we have to cancel our plans for later this summer... especially since this was meant to be the debut of us as a family (our last vacation was our honeymoon, 4 years ago. Now there are literally twice as many of us! ). However, acting like this is business as usual (or even comparable to SARS when it took less than a month to blow through the SARS threshold) is irrational all on its own. We should all be practicing extra caution, and unfortunately that means avoiding large gatherings... How compatible is guidance like that with cruising? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 @SteveinSC Also what about the suicides, death by domestic violence, hate crimes etc. Not to be a Debbie downer but people are always flippant about death until it could directly affect them...like in the case of the beer virus. However fearmongering does no good. Remember when people wouldn't even shake hands with a person with HIV? Not enough is known about the beer virus and mass hysteria does far more harm than good. There have been instances in history of people killing themselves and their family to avoid horrible fates. The best thing we all can do is to exercise caution and live our best lives. SteveinSC and SpeedNoodles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZer Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 We are booked on a Rhapsody cruise from Venice in May. Currently I understand that RC is refusing passengers from Venice to board. What happens in this case? Do they cancel the cruise or change the embarcation port? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Here's my take on this. Cruising is a life perk, not a necessity. So I won't be booking any new cruises until this coronavirus situation is resolved or somehow managed. That being said, I haven't canceled any of the bookings found in the "Upcoming Cruises" in my signature. To all those booked for the Odyssey Inaugural, see you in November. Momof4crazytocruise, LizzyBee23, AshleyDillo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 @YYZer If the situation continues then they will cancel the cruise and you would be refunded. I don't know the exact date of your cruise but May is currently 60+ days away. Anything could happen. In April they could find a vaccine..or the number of new infections could have dropped off. YYZer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveinSC Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ampurp85 said: @SteveinSC Also what about the suicides, death by domestic violence, hate crimes etc. Not to be a Debbie downer but people are always flippant about death until it could directly affect them...like in the case of the beer virus. Perhaps its a personality thing. I really dont worry about...well...much of anything. My wife would tell you its annoying as hell. I am what some would call a "health nut" to an extent (i eat very consciously, except on cruises, and workout everyday, even on cruises)...but I dont do these things out of worry. I just do them because its smart and healthy. I just view things from the standpoint of "Can I control it, to a point" and "what do statistics tell me the odds of it happening are". I have faith that things will happen as theyre meant to....and "live our best lives". DaiC01 and Baked Alaska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, LizzyBee23 said: We should all be practicing extra caution, and unfortunately that means avoiding large gatherings... How compatible is guidance like that with cruising? Where is this guidance coming from? In America that is not the guidance being offered by any health organization including our CDC. At the moment the CDC guidance is to avoid cruises to or within Asia. There is no guidance to avoid mass gatherings. There is no guidance to avoid travel. SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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