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so what's the current CDC/Government protocol for after a cruise?     

I honestly don't think they will put all cruisers coming off the ship to serve a 14 days quarantine cycle..   just curious

 

 

 

 

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Personally, I would be as concerned about traveling to and from the cruise as I would be cruising. As with any viral outbreak attached to cruises, somebody travelling through airports, on airplanes, taking Ubers, taxis and airport shuttles brought that virus onboard. It didn't start on the ship and won't end there if people are irresponsible and don't take basic health care precautions.

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13 minutes ago, Marlena said:

May I ask how her dept feels about her going on a cruise? Have they mentioned anything about not being able to work after?

We are in quebec canada. And as of right now we only have 3 /4 confirmed cases. 

If they feel any way about it, they havent voiced those concerns with her.  

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12 minutes ago, Rene Desmarais said:

so what's the current CDC/Government protocol for after a cruise?     

I honestly don't think they will put all cruisers coming off the ship to serve a 14 days quarantine cycle..   just curious

 

 

 

 

As of now they are only putting people in quarantine if someone on the ship tests positivce for the virus.

The scary part is, it only takes 1 person to test positive for the entire 5,000 people to be put in quarantine.  

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16 minutes ago, Marlena said:

It's frustrating because they have such negatives to say about cruising. Yet if we were going to disney for the week I feel like they would think too much about it.

I am a big Disney person.  I am a DVC member, passholder and I am usually at Disney world once a month. (was there last week)

I think the reason why they are going after the cruise industry is because of the confined space.  Person gets it on the boat it stays on the boat. 

Where as Disney, YES a person has it and can spread it around, its more open aired.  Well that's my opinion anyway.  

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Just now, mark52479 said:

I think the reason why they are going after the cruise industry is because of the confined space.  Person gets it on the boat it stays on the boat

Which is EXACTLY why quarantining everyone onboard by keeping them onboard is the WORST possible reaction - everyone stays in CLOSER proximity to the virus for a longer period of time.

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have you guys heard that after the meeitng with Pence cruise ships said they would very soon come out with other ways to protect clients. i read about evacuating sick people right away etc.  Its been said that quarantine is a bad idea and does more damage. so if they would just evacuate the sick and not penalise everyone else it would solve that quarantine fear. we are cruising on the 19 april from san juan and this quarantine is what bugs us because we have kids.   

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1 minute ago, gi333 said:

have you guys heard that after the meeitng with Pence cruise ships said they would very soon come out with other ways to protect clients. i read about evacuating sick people right away etc.  Its been said that quarantine is a bad idea and does more damage. so if they would just evacuate the sick and not penalise everyone else it would solve that quarantine fear. we are cruising on the 19 april from san juan and this quarantine is what bugs us because we have kids.   

The problem with COVID-19 is that the infected person becomes contagious even before becoming symptomatic.  There's no way of knowing who they infected before they became sick so the quarantine issue is not out of the picture.

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14 minutes ago, mark52479 said:

Where as Disney, YES a person has it and can spread it around, its more open aired.  Well that's my opinion anyway.  

Although it is open aired as you say. Anyone who has waited in cue, shoulder to shoulder with strangers, for an hour or more for Space Mountain probably are at the same risk as any cruise.

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1 minute ago, FManke said:

Although it is open aired as you say. Anyone who has waited in cue, shoulder to shoulder with strangers, for an hour or more for Space Mountain probably are at the same risk as any cruise.

To add this also goes for any concert, sporting event, sold out movie, etc, etc, etc.

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34 minutes ago, FManke said:

Although it is open aired as you say. Anyone who has waited in cue, shoulder to shoulder with strangers, for an hour or more for Space Mountain probably are at the same risk as any cruise.

This is all true. I Don't disagree.  

 

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41 minutes ago, FManke said:

Although it is open aired as you say. Anyone who has waited in cue, shoulder to shoulder with strangers, for an hour or more for Space Mountain probably are at the same risk as any cruise.

And touching the same hand rail in any ride which changes passengers every 3 min. A ship is disinfected countless times a day....all this to say... I'm annoyed! Lol

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On 3/7/2020 at 8:17 PM, CoupleOfCruisers said:

Hmmmm.....says anonymous source! I’m crying foul! It is an election year and there are unfortunately people who want to hurt the economy to hurt the President. #JMHO

WOW...you really believe that?

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1 minute ago, Marlena said:

And touching the same hand rail in any ride which changes passengers every 3 min. A ship is disinfected countless times a day....all this to say... I'm annoyed! Lol

I'm sure places like Disney are ramping up their efforts as well. I just don't know why the news seems to be focusing on the cruise industry like it has. All public places should be under continued scrutiny.  If anybody contracted Covid-19 at Disney, we might never find out. They like to keep that stuff quiet, like no one is allowed to be pronounced dead on Disney properties. It's not good for the image of "the Happiest Place On Earth!"

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2 hours ago, Mljstr said:

I just re-read the policy and now I believe you are correct. The policy pays "IN CASH the otherwise non-refundable value of the unused portion of your prepaid cruise vacation." Since RCCL is now refunding 100% as a cruise credit, I am sure it will not refund the cash. Thanks for pointing that out.

I have read of folks having success arguing this if they can get a doctor's note that they are no longer fit for this kind of travel and won't be by the time the FCC would expire.  

I think folks that are expecting travel insurance to kick in if they self-cancel are going to be surprised that the new Cruise with Confidence policy may affect any cash payout they thought they deserved from their insurance coverage.  From the side of the insurance company they feel a credit equivalence is making someone whole. 

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2 hours ago, mark52479 said:

The scary part is, it only takes 1 person to test positive for the entire 5,000 people to be put in quarantine.  

THIS.  Also, consider the situation with the Grand Princess, nobody knew until a passenger on the previous sailing passed away days after disembarkation.  Now passengers on the current cruise are infected.  

It's a huge risk to be cruising at the moment, IMO.  Even if you're not considered elderly, nor have a compromised immune system, you could potentially pass it on to someone that is when you return.

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Life is all about risk management. If I were in my 20's or 30's and healthy I would probably take advantage of the current and coming cruise bargains. However I am 61 and a diabetic. My wife is 68 years old. The mortality rate for someone my age with diabetes who get the coronus virus is 7.2% vs the overall rate of 3.4%.

With a cruise ship being a giant petri dish I believe you have a much greater chance of catching the virus due to the close quarters should a fellow passenger have it. With that in mind my risk management assessment says my wife and myself need to not cruise until this pandemic subsides. Thankfully our next cruise isn't until the beginning of December so hopefully things will be better then. However our 40th wedding anniversary trip to England in August is worrisome at this point.

I fully support the Federal government warning people about the increased danger of catching the coronovirus on cruise ships. Hopefully in coordination with the CDC the cruise lines can put some good screening measures in place that at the least includes temperature checks before boarding and ideally as test kits become available testing of passengers (not sure if that is feasible unless the test is an instant one). I know at least one cruise line is screening passengers for fever. That is a limited measure though because it appears coronovirus has a 2 to 5 day period after infection before fever and other symptoms.

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