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43 minutes ago, JasonOasis said:

I would cancel and rebook a cruise at a later date. Not because I'm afraid of COVID or put much faith in the daily case count, I would cancel because the risk of disruption to my vacation is too high for me to ignore. For me cruising is about the experience and if the cruise ship can't provide the experience that I'm expecting (through no fault of their own) then I would just reschedule my cruise.

In Vancouver it has been below freezing and snowing for over a week now (Vancouver is generally much milder temperature wise than the rest of Canada for those that don’t know) so I will be heading for my cruise next week. I would be fine even if I just sit on my balcony all week soaking up the sun!

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The cruise industry needs to get tough on these destination ports. If a Port turns down a cruise ship, with a lower infection rate than the host Port, - ban ALL cruise ships from that Port for X number of months. I believe that the Ports are well within their rights to ban anyone from setting foot on their land, but they need to be cognizant of possible adverse effects. I'm OK with sailing to no Ports as long as the casino, bars and balconies are open. 

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8 minutes ago, Swar said:

The cruise industry needs to get tough on these destination ports. If a Port turns down a cruise ship, with a lower infection rate than the host Port, - ban ALL cruise ships from that Port for X number of months. I believe that the Ports are well within their rights to ban anyone from setting foot on their land, but they need to be cognizant of possible adverse effects. I'm OK with sailing to no Ports as long as the casino, bars and balconies are open. 

Some of these countries have 20-30% vaccination rates. Many don't have very much of a health care system during good times.  

It's a symbiotic relationship.  Cruise ships need ports as much as ports need cruise ships.  

Yes, the pandemic sucks. 

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Hopefully we avoid another shutdown as that won't do anyone good and it will just leave people more frustrated and angry that we can't seem to get a handle on this thing and we'll be spinning in circles forever as new variants come out every year. Personally, I am going on Navigator of the Seas in 18 days. Am I cancelling? No. Am I aware that my cruise experience may be impacted? Yes. Am I still going to enjoy myself regardless if no ports or shows are there? Yes. As much as I love to visit ports and watch shows, the main draw for me about a cruise is the ship itself and the ocean views. I can walk around the ship and watch the ocean for days without knowing anything else is going on. Just get me out to sea and I am a happy camper. I will continue to mask up and protect myself and those around me. I wore my mask in vaccinated areas during my 4 cruises in 2 months and returned home healthy each time. 

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13 hours ago, PG Cruiser said:

This recent surge is impacting the ships' ability to provide satisfactory service to their guests - cancelled port stops, shows, and on-board activities.

As long as RC can provide food and drink (mainly alcohol), that's all the satisfactory service we need.🤣

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15 minutes ago, mworkman said:

The next question is, since the CDC now considered those that haven’t had booster shots to be in the same category as Unvaccinated…yep you heard that right…does RC consider that currently?

Where is the source of this information?  Was there a recent update?

This is what I'm seeing on the CDC website regarding what they consider to be fully vaccinated. Nothing is said about booster shots.

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14 hours ago, KevinJ said:

We plan to be on our 1/9 Anthem sailing. If ports get skipped it'll probably save me money, keeps the wife out of the shops 🙂 Plus the NH weather stinks.

As long as we all test negative, I plan on going.  I'm one who would happily stay on the ship for 11 days.  Do hope they stop at ports though -- DH & DD have a rum tour scheduled they don't want to miss, and if people get off the ship, that just means an even emptier ship for me!

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I hope not. 

I was looking at South Africa and it took about three weeks for cases to peak after omicron started. (11-30 to 12-17, give or take). In the US, it looks like the current spike in cases started around 12/16, so we might have another week or two of awfully high case counts, then it will start going down. Of course, the demographics are different so the time span will be different.

covid-19 case count south africa - Google Search

covid-19 case count u.s.a - Google Search

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On 12/31/2021 at 5:38 AM, AAD said:

Got the shows for 12/31 Symphony and looks pretty pared down…? 

 

 

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Wow! That is an incredible bummer. I assume all the entertainment staff is in quarantine? I am on the next sailing of Symphony, hopefully they will be able to put on a show or two. My favourite thing about Oasis class ships is the amount of high quality nightly entertainment.

That being said, I understand the current cruising environment, and made the decision not to cancel. Therefore, I will not complain about lack of entertainment, port changes, protocols etc. I will not demand compensation for missed ports or lack of shows. Royal allows me to cancel up to 48 hours before the cruise and so the decision is on me, not them.

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Cruising will be paused.  It's coming.  But not all of them.  Most likely ones in the U.S. will still operate, but too many European ports will close off, forcing them to add new stops, remove some, or relocate ships.   WIth the European season about to start and massive unrest and covid surge, you can expect cancellations.   I hope I'm wrong, but things are just getting started with Omicron or whatever varient they will come up with every few months.

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On 12/30/2021 at 10:51 AM, CrznTxn said:

We have a cruise scheduled 01/09 and barring cancellation by the cruise industry we are going cruising. As of a few minutes ago the Bahamas cleared Freedom OTS to disembark on CoCo Cay so that conspiracy is now defunct. We will test as always, be careful in our events onboard and enjoy yet another cruise as we have since August. Flexibility and care is the name of the game now, onboard ship and at home. Even with additional protocols the cruises have been enjoyable and we cannot wait for the next ones.

We also have a cruise scheduled for 1/9. We just called Celebrity to cancel it. They gave us quite a hard time, not happy. Too many risks that can't be mitigated. Sure there are less than 1% of ppl getting sick on ships, but you can't social distance on a ship like at home. So chances are higher on getting the virus on the ship and going home with it. Also, the crew is getting sick, not the passengers. Let's not even start with the airlines, their ppl are sick too, another huge risk. We have to fly to our ports. Overall, it's a shitshow and you all are taking a huge risk. Ports, excursions cancelled, less crew. It really spoils the whole experience and we pay a lot for these cruises, I want #1 customer service.  If youre retired you can possibly get stuck on the ship, no worries. Miss ports, maybe, but not me. I pay for the whole experience not a stressful vacation. That's just me. TC

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Omi's peak is estimated to be upon us shortly.  Calmer heads are starting to prevail in some governments.  Capacity on ships will fall because it always does in January.  Christmas and NYE peaks had really poor timing with Omi.  If Omi had hit in January the result would have been massively different for the cruise lines. 

Just really bad timing this time.   That doesn't mean there needs to be massive changes or even minor changes.  Follow the science as cruise lines have been.  Don't follow cable news and whatever you do don't use social media as an information source.

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8 minutes ago, twangster said:

Omi's peak is estimated to be upon us shortly.  Calmer heads are starting to prevail in some governments.  Capacity on ships will fall because it always does in January.  Christmas and NYE peaks had really poor timing with Omi.  If Omi had hit in January the result would have been massively different for the cruise lines. 

Just really bad timing this time.   That doesn't mean there needs to be massive changes or even minor changes.  Follow the science as cruise lines have been.  Don't follow cable news and whatever you do don't use social media as an information source.

It is bad timing, our cruise was cancelled 2x and we cancelled our 1/9. Such a bummer, who wants to cancel a cruise? NOBODY! We just think it's too risky for us. 

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On 12/30/2021 at 11:09 PM, RWDW1204 said:

As long as RC can provide food and drink (mainly alcohol), that's all the satisfactory service we need.🤣

How about seating and service in dining, that'll go down as reported cases state that it's the crew getting sick! No thanks. I'll wait until spring. Have fun! TC

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27 minutes ago, twangster said:

Omi's peak is estimated to be upon us shortly.  Calmer heads are starting to prevail in some governments.  Capacity on ships will fall because it always does in January.  Christmas and NYE peaks had really poor timing with Omi.  If Omi had hit in January the result would have been massively different for the cruise lines. 

Just really bad timing this time.   That doesn't mean there needs to be massive changes or even minor changes.  Follow the science as cruise lines have been.  Don't follow cable news and whatever you do don't use social media as an information source.

I think for the  long term benefit of the cruise industry, omicron hit at the perfect time. 

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