Starrynight0154 Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/royal-caribbean-cruise-ship-worker-allegedly-admits-filming-young-passengers-even-hiding-under-beds/ar-BB1jms8K CruzOnBye, fireclan, Baked Alaska and 4 others 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmondFarmer Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Veteran cruisers know to store their suitcases under the bed, thus eliminating space for stateroom attendant to hide. PhillyLady, jbrinkm, Snotarni and 17 others 10 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweety Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 A mess WAYNO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzywuzzy Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Time to re-institute the former maritime tradition of walking the plank. PhillyLady, Pattycruise, Robert M and 4 others 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFCruise Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 3 hours ago, Fuzzywuzzy said: Time to re-institute the former maritime tradition of walking the plank. You can reserve your spot on the Cruise Planner. 25% Pre-Cruise savings! PPPJJ-GCVAB, Matthew Miller, TomBryant and 5 others 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 6 hours ago, AlmondFarmer said: Veteran cruisers know to store their suitcases under the bed, thus eliminating space for stateroom attendant to hide. Also when packing your wall magnets and chair clips, pack your bug detector, too, for those hidden cameras. PPPJJ-GCVAB, PhillyLady and AlmondFarmer 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, JFCruise said: You can reserve your spot on the Cruise Planner. 25% Pre-Cruise savings! ….plus 18% gratuity tingtang, jabberwk, BrianB and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK6404 Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 23 hours ago, Fuzzywuzzy said: Time to re-institute the former maritime tradition of walking the plank. ... or Crown's Edge without the safety harness! Fuzzywuzzy, PhillyLady, PPPJJ-GCVAB and 2 others 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmw Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 This whole thing is insane. Sickening, obviously, but as someone (like all of you) who has taken a number of cruises I'm trying to imagine how and where you'd even hide a camera in those tiny staterooms that would go unnoticed but also have an angle that would capture anything this guy wants to see. It seems like even if it worked once or twice, pretty quickly someone would find it. There's just not that many areas within a stateroom that go unseen for very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 Chargers for phone and iPad…check Book for beach and pool reading…check Sunscreen…check Antibacterial wipes…check Check under bed for pervert…check Shampoo and body wash…check Toothbrush…check Check entire cabin for pervert camera…check *Ready to cruise! JohnK6404, Jamesszy94, Fuzzywuzzy and 3 others 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandraweston600 Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 This guy was our room attendant back in May last year when Symphony was in Europe Mary Sue, WAAAYTOOO, Tjones and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 50 minutes ago, jeffmw said: This whole thing is insane. Sickening, obviously, but as someone (like all of you) who has taken a number of cruises I'm trying to imagine how and where you'd even hide a camera in those tiny staterooms that would go unnoticed but also have an angle that would capture anything this guy wants to see. It seems like even if it worked once or twice, pretty quickly someone would find it. There's just not that many areas within a stateroom that go unseen for very long. Sadly too many people these days are oblivious to the world around them. You have to think this guy has been doing this for a long time and got more brazen with his camera placement as time went on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 32 minutes ago, alexandraweston600 said: This guy was our room attendant back in May last year when Symphony was in Europe Really? The article states that he has only been with Symphony since December. PPPJJ-GCVAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandraweston600 Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 Yeh I saw that they said it was more recent- he was definitely working on board back then as I recognised him straight away on seeing his picture and couldn't believe it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilley Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 It will have me taking a good look at every inch of my cabin moving forward. I may even flip the mattress.... Mary Sue, PPPJJ-GCVAB and PhillyLady 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srp431 Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 Maybe this guy started a new contract in December on Symphony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Just wait until the guys in the Broward County jail get a hold of him… He’ll be some inmate’s pet. Jamesszy94 and Pattycruise 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandraweston600 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 I showed his photo to my husband last night and it is definitely him. I hadn´t thought at the time but I now remember him asking us if we minded not storing our suitcases under the bed as he had bits and pieces under there - we didn't think anything of it at the time He actually seemed like a really nice guy to us and spoke about his family back home! Mary Sue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 22 hours ago, jeffmw said: This whole thing is insane. Sickening, obviously, but as someone (like all of you) who has taken a number of cruises I'm trying to imagine how and where you'd even hide a camera in those tiny staterooms that would go unnoticed but also have an angle that would capture anything this guy wants to see. It seems like even if it worked once or twice, pretty quickly someone would find it. There's just not that many areas within a stateroom that go unseen for very long. This guy is in and out of staterooms 24/7/365. With that amount of time spent in one place it’s not hard to imagine that they could come up with a few camera locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmondFarmer Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Royal is partly to blame for this incident on Symphony as the crew member requested his contract be for Voyeur of the Seas. Bowen, USFFrank, AshleyDillo and 13 others 2 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieCruiseFan Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 (edited) Brilliant!! Edited March 7 by JulieCruiseFan repeated comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattycruise Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 18 hours ago, alexandraweston600 said: I showed his photo to my husband last night and it is definitely him. I hadn´t thought at the time but I now remember him asking us if we minded not storing our suitcases under the bed as he had bits and pieces under there - we didn't think anything of it at the time He actually seemed like a really nice guy to us and spoke about his family back home! I can recall an attendant asking that. It wasn’t him though. I’ve never kept my luggage under the bed, doubt I’ll start but apparently now we need to look for the bogeyman under the bed on a regular basis. Adding to my list of things to do. Jamesszy94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonCruiser Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 For most of the week I kept ignoring mentions of this story thinking that people were dredging up the older story where a staff member was found to be recording in the public bathrooms because "surely" my brain reasoned "there aren't two separate instances of this happening so relatively close together..." But there are and this one is miles worse and I am sickened to read what he did and how long he was able to do it and i hate that we as vacationers have to consider all these extra precautions just to having a good time... WAYNO, PPPJJ-GCVAB and Mary Sue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonCruiser Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 On 3/6/2024 at 7:34 AM, jeffmw said: This whole thing is insane. Sickening, obviously, but as someone (like all of you) who has taken a number of cruises I'm trying to imagine how and where you'd even hide a camera in those tiny staterooms that would go unnoticed but also have an angle that would capture anything this guy wants to see. It seems like even if it worked once or twice, pretty quickly someone would find it. There's just not that many areas within a stateroom that go unseen for very long. I have two fairly conspicuous black blink cameras in my home to keep myself safe and to be aware of what may or may not happen while I am not there or asleep. At one point, one of these 3 inch by 3 inch pure black cameras was mounted against an all white wall in the open in my kitchen while I watched my landlord and her hirees do work in my kitchen. My landlord NEVER noticed it. I told her, "just so you're not freaked out, I do have a camera in there" and she's like "where?" and I told her exactly where to look and she couldn't see it. I had to literally stand under it and point it out for her to see it. So I can see how smaller cameras placed in areas people wouldn't generally look can be hidden but still recording. Gilley and PPPJJ-GCVAB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, CrimsonCruiser said: For most of the week I kept ignoring mentions of this story thinking that people were dredging up the older story where a staff member was found to be recording in the public bathrooms because "surely" my brain reasoned "there aren't two separate instances of this happening so relatively close together..." But there are and this one is miles worse and I am sickened to read what he did and how long he was able to do it and i hate that we as vacationers have to consider all these extra precautions just to having a good time... As a business traveler the concept of hidden cameras has been something on my mind for decades. Erin Andrews from ESPN had to deal with it from a 2008 incident in a hotel room in Tennessee. I think that individual brought the idea to the mainstream. Since then advancements with technology has made it easier for those that followed his lead, unfortunately. Mary Sue, CrimsonCruiser and Ampurp85 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonCruiser Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, twangster said: As a business traveler the concept of hidden cameras has been something on my mind for decades. Erin Andrews from ESPN had to deal with it from a 2008 incident in a hotel room in Tennessee. I think that individual brought the idea to the mainstream. Since then advancements with technology has made it easier for those that followed his lead, unfortunately. I unfortunately agree. I've seen and heard more and more stories of hidden cameras in lamps, false mirrors, alarm clocks etc. Not to mention the horror stories for single women travelers who have to barricade their hotel room doors against break ins..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Maybe time to bring our own hidden cameras so we can spy on the cabin attendants when we are out of our cabins. WAYNO, ckruetze, teddy and 5 others 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 9 minutes ago, twangster said: Maybe time to bring our own hidden cameras so we can spy on the cabin attendants when we are out of our cabins. I’m thinking my game cameras might not be small enough. twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireclan Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 18 minutes ago, teddy said: I’m thinking my game cameras might not be small enough. But they are (most likely) camouflaged, so they'll be harder to see. teddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 On 3/8/2024 at 10:41 AM, teddy said: I’m thinking my game cameras might not be small enough. Why bother hiding them? Point it from the back side of the room towards the front door. Ring stick up cams are cheap end effective. Mutually assured destruction. teddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, tonyfsu21 said: Why bother hiding them? Point it from the back side of the room towards the front door. Ring stick up cams are cheap end effective. Mutually assured destruction. Ring cams need an internet connection to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 I would prefer conspicuous cameras to watch the attendant. I would go so far as to tell them to not touch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 11 minutes ago, Baked Alaska said: I would prefer conspicuous cameras to watch the attendant. I would go so far as to tell them to not touch them. This is exactly the point. Just stick it there and plug it in. The fact that it doesn’t connect to the internet is irrelevant. Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, twangster said: Ring cams need an internet connection to work. By “work” I would say it just needs to be plugged in. This would be a significant deterrent even w/o internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 It still amazes me how so many parents let their kids wander all over the ship unsupervised. When we cruised with our young girls, they never left our sight. Sexual assault on cruise ships (by crew or passengers) does happen. Now we have to worry about the cabin itself. ChessE4 and Baked Alaska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 On 3/11/2024 at 3:44 PM, Jill said: It still amazes me how so many parents let their kids wander all over the ship unsupervised. When we cruised with our young girls, they never left our sight. Sexual assault on cruise ships (by crew or passengers) does happen. Now we have to worry about the cabin itself. I would be one of those parents. When we go on Icon next Saturday (spring break) there will be kids running around everywhere. I teach my kids to be observant and we are in constant text communication so there is low risk of any issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChessE4 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Techno-parenting is a skill, and a few adults on cruise ships seem to have it, but many don't. I lost my son at age 6 on a small ship, so I urge parents to plan ahead with their families what to do in various situations. In my case, my son returned to our stateroom. Must have gotten his common sense from his mother... WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckruetze Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 On 3/11/2024 at 8:44 PM, Jill said: It still amazes me how so many parents let their kids wander all over the ship unsupervised. When we cruised with our young girls, they never left our sight. We have left our girls (9 and 6) go alone and wonder around the ship. We always agree on a time when they should meet us again and where. And they have WhatsApp. I wouldn't want to be a parent that chains up the child. But I guess it is also different we come from Europe and here it is more normal for kids to play and have fun outside. My children were allowed with 3 years to go and play on the street and visit friends down the road (we live in a small village in the countryside). I find a cruise ship very secure. All public spaces have video surveillance and children are not allowed to get off the ship alone. So I have absolutely no worries for them to play for a while without us being around. tonyfsu21 and HeWhoWaits 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 6 hours ago, ckruetze said: We have left our girls (9 and 6) go alone and wonder around the ship. We always agree on a time when they should meet us again and where. And they have WhatsApp. I wouldn't want to be a parent that chains up the child. But I guess it is also different we come from Europe and here it is more normal for kids to play and have fun outside. My children were allowed with 3 years to go and play on the street and visit friends down the road (we live in a small village in the countryside). I find a cruise ship very secure. All public spaces have video surveillance and children are not allowed to get off the ship alone. So I have absolutely no worries for them to play for a while without us being around. 100% agree. Clearly it’s more of an exposure inside the cabin than around the ship. My kids have a blast on their own around the ship and we wouldn’t have it any other way. I’ve heard lots of horror stories none of which involve the abduction of young children while onboard the ship (that I can recall). Low risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 We just have a rule that no one our son meets on board is allowed in our cabin, nor is he allowed in theirs. ckruetze and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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