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We have 100 night booked in 2021, all in suites. ¬†Not sure how the ‚ÄúC&A discount‚ÄĚ clause is going to affect them. ¬†We rarely use the C&A discount anyway. ¬†Some random promo discount usually pu

View of @Lovetocruise2002in 2021 telling her children she will be absent for much of the year on solo cruises in suites  

Suites get 4 points now?!!!!!  Instead of 3? Best news ever if that is true!  Now we need sailings to start!

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It seems fishy that the double points won't accrue if you received a C&A discount. They automatically apply the discount (no matter how large or small) when you book if you provide a C&A number for one or more passengers. The only way to avoid a discount would be to book without the number attached and then add it later - extra work.

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Terms and Conditions:

Loyalty 2X Points¬†applies to new, individual, and named group bookings confirmed at prevailing rates, and existing bookings made prior to October 19, 2020 on all Eligible Sailings.¬†Loyalty 2X Points¬†is available to Gold, Platinum, Emerald, Diamond, Diamond Plus, and Pinnacle Crown & Anchor Society members.¬†Loyalty 2X Points¬†provides Loyalty members 2X Crown and Anchor points on sailings¬†departing on¬†January¬†1 ‚Äď December 31, 2021 (‚ÄúEligible Sailings‚ÄĚ).¬† Crown and Anchor points will be applied once the guest has paid their booking in full and completed their sailing.¬†When reserving, a valid Crown¬†& Anchor Society membership number must be¬†included in the reservation.

All other NRDB cancelled prior to final payment due date will receive a future cruise credit in the amount of the deposit minus a 100USD/CAD per person service fee. FCC is non-transferable and expires after 12-months from issue date. 100USD/CAD per person service fee applies to changes to NRDB ship or sail date. Deposits made toward Guarantees and Grand Suites and higher categories are non-refundable and are subject to NRD Booking Terms.

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20 minutes ago, HeWhoWaits said:

It seems fishy that the double points won't accrue if you received a C&A discount. They automatically apply the discount (no matter how large or small) when you book if you provide a C&A number for one or more passengers. The only way to avoid a discount would be to book without the number attached and then add it later - extra work.

I agree. The discount is minimal for my sailings (2). The extra points I would get do not equal what I would have earned with my 2 sailings that were cancelled in July and the Dec. cruise I L' & S'd. It's frustrating as I would have been diamond after this coming summer's sailing. Now... who knows. 

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3 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said:

Not sure what "named group bookings confirmed at prevailing rates" means though?  @Matt @Sharla @michelle?

Not all group or charter cruises earn points.  It depends on the group that arranged the contract.

We think of group cruises as one thing but from their perspective it's a different meaning.

I think this is just saying that select charter bookings will receive double points, not all charters will.  

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3 minutes ago, twangster said:

Not all group or charter cruises earn points.  It depends on the group that arranged the contract.

We think of group cruises as one thing but from their perspective it's a different meaning.

I think this is just saying that select charter bookings will receive double points, not all charters will.  

Thanks @twangster!  No mention of applied C&A discount not being combinable....

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3 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said:

Thanks @twangster!  No mention of applied C&A discount not being combinable....

That's how I'm interpreting that as well. I also just read the combinability statement below your quoted area and there's nothing there either. It doesn't state it cannot be done, but it also doesn't state it can be done. Ugh. 

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11 minutes ago, kadmgs said:

That's how I'm interpreting that as well. I also just read the combinability statement below your quoted area and there's nothing there either. It doesn't state it cannot be done, but it also doesn't state it can be done. Ugh. 

I did not think that combinability section below that applied to Loyalty 2x Points.  I was under the impression that they were talking about KSF, BOGO60, Summer Kicker, and Instant savings in that section.  But I am still lost.  Going to wait for the dust to settle just like what @twangster said.

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5 minutes ago, twangster said:

Celebrity has much more specific verbiage on their site. Veranda and above, no extra points for solo cruisers, classic members and above. 

Want to be sure I'm reading those last two clauses correctly. They are saying "no extra points for solo cruisers, and only applicable for classic members and above", right? Meaning you have to have gotten at least a couple of points with X, can't be a brand-new member with zero points. Though that makes me wonder how they'd treat people like me, who haven't yet actually sailed with them but got a few CC points through PowerUp points and am now Classic level. How about people who have gotten their CC level via cross-honoring from Royal or Azamara and otherwise also have zero points?

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18 minutes ago, mworkman said:

Final word!

 

The way I read that site "Loyalty 2X Points applies to new, individual, and named group bookings confirmed at prevailing rates, and existing bookings made prior to October 19, 2020 on all Eligible Sailings."  

Every one almost should be able to get the 2X points.  Right?

 

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16 minutes ago, PaulRC said:

The way I read that site "Loyalty 2X Points applies to new, individual, and named group bookings confirmed at prevailing rates, and existing bookings made prior to October 19, 2020 on all Eligible Sailings."  

Every one almost should be able to get the 2X points.  Right?

 

Everyone who has sailed Royal before.

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50 minutes ago, JLMoran said:

Want to be sure I'm reading those last two clauses correctly. They are saying "no extra points for solo cruisers, and only applicable for classic members and above", right? Meaning you have to have gotten at least a couple of points with X, can't be a brand-new member with zero points. Though that makes me wonder how they'd treat people like me, who haven't yet actually sailed with them but got a few CC points through PowerUp points and am now Classic level. How about people who have gotten their CC level via cross-honoring from Royal or Azamara and otherwise also have zero points?

Celebrity and Azamara have combined their loyalty programs.  Sail Azamara and those points will appear in your Celebrity account as if you sailed Celebrity and vice versa.  Log into Azamara now, if you have PUP from Celebrity you should see the same point total in your Azamara account.

If your X account says "Classic" you should be good for the points promo.  You are a classic member.  That's my interpretation.  

When I first sailed X my SetSail pass literally said "Preview".  If that 1st X cruise was in 2021 I'd get no promo points (absent of PUP).  If you printed an X SetSail pass today your's should read "Classic" not "Preview".

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How I'm reading it is if you have a special rate that's not just their regular rates you don't get the double points. So if you're in a group but not paying group rates you will still get the points. Sometimes we can add people to groups even at FIT prices because there are bonuses (OBC for example) so I believe those count.

And it's not double points for everything- it's double for most rooms, but suites are 3 points per night not 4.

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Just got off the phone with RC and I was told that my cruise does qualify for the 2x points automatically  I booked my cruise on 9 Oct.  The RC agent told me that you do not have to call it will be added.  I am sailing with 2 friends and when asked he again told me they would get the 2x points with out having to call.  So that's good!

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