RCARD Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Riley, cruisellama, YellowBrickRoad and 7 others 3 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCARD Posted May 30 Author Report Share Posted May 30 Onboard status match benefits begin June 5, 2024. Pattycruise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last2Know Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Yep, I just got the same email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickpants Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 https://www.royalcaribbeangroup.com/royal-caribbean-group-introduces-new-loyalty-status-match/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Holy crap ! They're matching Pinnacle to Zenith ??? I'm really surprised at this ! Shari, JohnK6404, JustMeJoe and 7 others 7 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 I'm surprised how little difference there is between celebrity elite and elite plus. A couple more discounts, a few more free internet minutes (still less than than RC Diamond) and an extra bag of laundry. So is this the big change? I guess they aren't merging programs or allowing points to accrue on any brand. I just checked my Celebrity account and I still show as just Elite. I guess they haven't gone and updated things yet. Edit: I guess I should have read the FAQs Your status will be updated automatically within 7 days. If you qualify for an upgrade in status, you will receive an email confirming your new status from the program(s) where your status has changed. Shari 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickpants Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Some caveats to the matching: Since Status Match members only receive the tier and not the associated points, they are ineligible for the benefits listed below. Crown & Anchor Society: Complimentary Pinnacle Club milestone cruises Diamond Plus and Pinnacle Club amenities Single supplement cruise fare reduction Cheers with an Officer onboard event Milestone recognition (Crystal Block) Upgraded bathroom amenities Pinnacle Club milestone kits Chef’s Choice amenity Captain’s Club: Complimentary Zenith cruises Zenith milestone kits WWF® donations Retreat Lounge access when not staying in the Retreat Status match members will only be permitted to access the Retreat Lounge when not staying in the Retreat based on availability and at the sole discretion of Celebrity Cruises WAAAYTOOO, Rackham and LTR 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 still no cross matching with points instaGator, Mike.s, WAAAYTOOO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Va4fam Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Just got the email too. We are D+ which makes us Elite Plus on Celebrity. 2 complimentary bags of laundry and 240 streaming minutes seem to be the best perks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickpants Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 3 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: still no cross matching with points Yeah, I think this is the first step. Lovetocruise2002, instaGator, Shari and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, Va4fam said: Just got the email too. We are D+ which makes us Elite Plus on Celebrity. 2 complimentary bags of laundry and 240 streaming minutes seem to be the best perks? 240 streaming minutes. Which is less than 10% of what you get on RC. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattycruise Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 https://www.celebritycruises.com/content/dam/celebrity/new-images/Captains-Club-Benefits-Brochure_V24_5_29_24.pdf complimentary drinks for Zenith? Am I reading that correctly? laundry-are there perks not available to Zenith that are available to other tiers? (Dry clean item etc) as a new pinnacle I don’t seem to get access to the concierge lounge (whatever it’s called these days) so I won’t be missing that on Celebrity! foxrunner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 3 minutes ago, Pattycruise said: https://www.celebritycruises.com/content/dam/celebrity/new-images/Captains-Club-Benefits-Brochure_V24_5_29_24.pdf complimentary drinks for Zenith? Am I reading that correctly? laundry-are there perks not available to Zenith that are available to other tiers? (Dry clean item etc) Looks like it..plus waived room service fee. Unlimited wash & fold..not sure about other laundry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Looks like a good deal for Pinnacles to make the switch..maybe this is their way of luring the Pinns over to Celebrity. JustMeJoe and nickpants 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 41 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Holy crap ! They're matching Pinnacle to Zenith ??? I'm really surprised at this ! Smoke free casinos...might wanna check out if you can get started in their casino program WAAAYTOOO, MaryS, foxrunner and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.s Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 24 minutes ago, nickpants said: Yeah, I think this is the first step. Lets hope so, it's the only way we'll get near to Pinnacle/Zenith Shari and foxrunner 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxrunner Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 29 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: still no cross matching with points I agree that was what I was hoping for. With Royal's new pricing, X is more in reach. Especially because we like new destinations and are now empty nesters! Mike.s and Lovetocruise2002 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Kind of a bummer that they aren't giving the Zenith cross-overs the 340 solo booking discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Va4fam Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 11 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Kind of a bummer that they aren't giving the Zenith cross-overs the 340 solo booking discount. The entire announcement is somewhat of a "head scratcher." They have some amazing, smart, and creative people assembled together to improve the brand and wow their loyal customers.............but instead chose to nudge a few perks our way but mostly stand pat?!! Where's the free drinks? Free internet? Free pictures? BOGO speciality dining? Points earned across all brands? Chili, foxrunner, Shari and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 3 minutes ago, Va4fam said: Where's the free drinks? Free internet? Free pictures? BOGO speciality dining? Points earned across all brands? Depending upon your current C&A status, most of these do actually cross over. It would seem that Zenith get the complimentary premium drink package (which may or may not be equivalent or better than 6 drink vouchers per day), they get a complimentary premium internet package and they get 25% off specialty dining which is not quite equivalent to BOGO but still not nothing. Free pictures ? I dunno....missed that one. We never use that anyway. Frankly, it seems like D+ are getting the worst cross-over deal b/c you're right - many of the above perks don't appear to be there for E+. I guess I need to do more research. Shari, Va4fam, Neesa and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 I just got the double email, one from Royal and one from Celebrity. I don't see the incentive. I am D+ and while I do see myself on the journey to pin, the status match is a bit of a crapshoot imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken52891 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Is this a one-time match or based on your status over time? Meaning if I become Diamond for my next RC cruise, but I'm already a Select status on Celebrity, will that update to be elite during my next Celebrity cruise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 3 minutes ago, ken52891 said: Is this a one-time match or based on your status over time? Meaning if I become Diamond for my next RC cruise, but I'm already a Select status on Celebrity, will that update to be elite during my next Celebrity cruise? Good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackham Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 (edited) From TPG article on this change, No single loyalty program for now The new status match program for all three wholly owned Royal Caribbean brands stops short of what some loyalty experts see as a logical next step for the company's loyalty program efforts: a single combined loyalty program for all three brands. When TPG asked about this, Liberty suggested the company wanted to be sure it understood what loyal customers at its three brands wanted before making a more radical change. But he hinted more change might be coming. "This is kind of step one. We want to tie these [programs] together," he said, calling the new status match program "basically kind of the beginning of a common loyalty platform." Saying there was "more to come," Liberty added, "You'll see here over time that you're building status and other things across the family of brands." When asked specifically about whether Royal Caribbean Group might shift to a single loyalty program similar to what Marriott offers with its massive Bonvoy program, which allows for earning and burning points across more than 30 hotel brands, Liberty suggested that might not be the right model. "In some ways Marriott put Bonvoy in front of the brands," Liberty said, suggesting that stays at Marriott hotels had become all about earning points in the Bonvoy program and not the allures of the individual hotel brands and hotels. That's something Liberty suggested Royal Caribbean Group doesn't want to do. He said the company wanted the individual brands in its portfolio to always be the focus for its customers and the "guest facing" part of the business, not the company's loyalty program. "We don't have what I just typically describe as the earn-and-burn customer," Liberty noted. "Our customers actually appreciate more the recognition [from loyalty status]. Like, they want to go to the cocktail party for their tier. They want to have free dry cleaning. Those things are more important to them [than earning and burning] points." Liberty noted that people don't cruise as often as they stay in hotels, so an "earn-and-burn" model for a cruise loyalty program that resembled the Marriott Bonvoy program didn't make as much sense. "We get you one, two, three times a year. We don't get you one or two, three times a month, which you have [with] the earn-and-burn type players ... mainly hotels and airlines." Make of this what you will, but to me it sounds like they haven't decided yet if points will accumulate seperately across brands or together in one pot. Edited May 30 by Rackham Adding article URL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken52891 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 6 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Good question. It's unclear. I know the current way is a one-time match. We did that a couple years ago when we booked our first Celebrity trip on Apex, and for them, we are Select, but in January, after our Odyssey trip, we will be Diamond on RCL. So, it would be very interesting if this change would let us be elite for our next Celebrity trip in 2026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last2Know Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Holy crap ! They're matching Pinnacle to Zenith ??? I'm really surprised at this ! We're on track for Pinnacle in 2025 and this is a game changer for us once that milestone is reached. We liked our only X cruise but decided to stay with RCL for status points and the D+ benefits. WAAAYTOOO, JustMeJoe, SplashOfWater and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWaits Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 30 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: the complimentary premium drink package (which may or may not be equivalent or better than 6 drink vouchers per day Premium package > 6 vouchers if you're going to use at least 4 or 5 on covered adult beverages. That allows for additional specialty coffees and other non-alcoholic drinks. YellowBrickRoad, CruiseGus and WAAAYTOOO 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackham Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 11 minutes ago, ken52891 said: It's unclear. I know the current way is a one-time match. We did that a couple years ago when we booked our first Celebrity trip on Apex, and for them, we are Select, but in January, after our Odyssey trip, we will be Diamond on RCL. So, it would be very interesting if this change would let us be elite for our next Celebrity trip in 2026 When I hit Diamond in January, my Celebrity level changed from Select to Elite. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 36 minutes ago, Rackham said: "We don't have what I just typically describe as the earn-and-burn customer," Liberty noted. "Our customers actually appreciate more the recognition [from loyalty status]. Like, they want to go to the cocktail party for their tier. They want to have free dry cleaning. Those things are more important to them [than earning and burning] points." He's missing the point here. RC does not offer redeemable points like hotels do. So RCG patrons can't be earn-and-burn customers. And appreciating the perks is BECAUSE of earning points, which people want to continue to do as easily as possible. Just giving me an extra bag of laundry on Celebrity doesn't make me want to cruise Celebrity. But me earning C&A points on Celebrity to push me to the next C&A tier would. bobroo, WAAAYTOOO, MaryS and 6 others 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asquared17 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 47 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Frankly, it seems like D+ are getting the worst cross-over deal b/c you're right - many of the above perks don't appear to be there for E+. ah, well. [stares forlornly into the distance] WAAAYTOOO and RCARD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbeyg Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 53 minutes ago, ken52891 said: Is this a one-time match or based on your status over time? Meaning if I become Diamond for my next RC cruise, but I'm already a Select status on Celebrity, will that update to be elite during my next Celebrity cruise? We had signed up for the status match with Celebrity long before we sailed them. When we became Diamond on RCI, we changed from Select to Elite in our Celebrity account. We are now D+ and E+ with Celebrity. For us, it has been a status to status match, whenever one of those changed. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCARD Posted May 30 Author Report Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Depending upon your current C&A status, most of these do actually cross over. It would seem that Zenith get the complimentary premium drink package (which may or may not be equivalent or better than 6 drink vouchers per day), they get a complimentary premium internet package and they get 25% off specialty dining which is not quite equivalent to BOGO but still not nothing. Free pictures ? I dunno....missed that one. We never use that anyway. Frankly, it seems like D+ are getting the worst cross-over deal b/c you're right - many of the above perks don't appear to be there for E+. I guess I need to do more research. I agree, seems like D+ are getting much. I'm D+ ob RCL and also Celebrity Elite based on Celebrity activity. This match will move me up to E+. Hope your research uncovers more of a benefit WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freegirl Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 The benefits for Elite Plus also show complimentary cappuccino, latte, tea, and espresso. That will be nice. It has been a few years since I've sailed Celebrity. Will those complimentary coffees be in some lounge (like the Crown lounge) or just at the regular coffee cafe? WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFFrank Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Too bad Celebrity doesn't give daily drink vouchers like Royal Caribbean does. I'm in the Diamond / Elite tier and would rather have the vouchers to use as I please instead being limited to just the evening cocktail hour. Hopefully that will change by early 2026. Shari, SplashOfWater and YellowBrickRoad 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Now the Crown lounge will get really crowded... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 2 hours ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: still no cross matching with points 11 minutes ago, USFFrank said: Too bad Celebrity doesn't give daily drink vouchers like Royal Caribbean does. I'm in the Diamond / Elite tier and would rather have the vouchers to use as I please instead being limited to just the evening cocktail hour. Hopefully that will change by early 2026. 1 hour ago, Rackham said: From TPG article on this change, No single loyalty program for now The new status match program for all three wholly owned Royal Caribbean brands stops short of what some loyalty experts see as a logical next step for the company's loyalty program efforts: a single combined loyalty program for all three brands. When TPG asked about this, Liberty suggested the company wanted to be sure it understood what loyal customers at its three brands wanted before making a more radical change. But he hinted more change might be coming. "This is kind of step one. We want to tie these [programs] together," he said, calling the new status match program "basically kind of the beginning of a common loyalty platform." Saying there was "more to come," Liberty added, "You'll see here over time that you're building status and other things across the family of brands." When asked specifically about whether Royal Caribbean Group might shift to a single loyalty program similar to what Marriott offers with its massive Bonvoy program, which allows for earning and burning points across more than 30 hotel brands, Liberty suggested that might not be the right model. "In some ways Marriott put Bonvoy in front of the brands," Liberty said, suggesting that stays at Marriott hotels had become all about earning points in the Bonvoy program and not the allures of the individual hotel brands and hotels. That's something Liberty suggested Royal Caribbean Group doesn't want to do. He said the company wanted the individual brands in its portfolio to always be the focus for its customers and the "guest facing" part of the business, not the company's loyalty program. "We don't have what I just typically describe as the earn-and-burn customer," Liberty noted. "Our customers actually appreciate more the recognition [from loyalty status]. Like, they want to go to the cocktail party for their tier. They want to have free dry cleaning. Those things are more important to them [than earning and burning] points." Liberty noted that people don't cruise as often as they stay in hotels, so an "earn-and-burn" model for a cruise loyalty program that resembled the Marriott Bonvoy program didn't make as much sense. "We get you one, two, three times a year. We don't get you one or two, three times a month, which you have [with] the earn-and-burn type players ... mainly hotels and airlines." Make of this what you will, but to me it sounds like they haven't decided yet if points will accumulate seperately across brands or together in one pot. The point accumulation models are different. One RCL you either earn 1 or 2 pts/ night depending upon non-suite or suite (also solo traveler pick up a point). Celebrity tiers by room class from 3 pts/night up to 24 pts/night depending on the suite level ($$ buys you love). IMO I think points a function $$ spent is pretty fair. Lovetocruise2002 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Va4fam Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the perks we do get. Royal and Celebrity are upfront about perks and they are relatively easy to use. Moving to a unified platform would be great (drink vouchers, internet, etc). Moving to an earn-and-burn approach would eradicate my desire to remain loyal to one cruise line/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, cruisellama said: Celebrity tiers by room class from 3 pts/night up to 24 pts/night depending on the suite level ($$ buys you love). Exactly! It will be a thumbs up from me only when Royal adopts X point system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverk Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 3 hours ago, ken52891 said: Is this a one-time match or based on your status over time? Meaning if I become Diamond for my next RC cruise, but I'm already a Select status on Celebrity, will that update to be elite during my next Celebrity cruise? 2 hours ago, ken52891 said: It's unclear. I know the current way is a one-time match. We did that a couple years ago when we booked our first Celebrity trip on Apex, and for them, we are Select, but in January, after our Odyssey trip, we will be Diamond on RCL. So, it would be very interesting if this change would let us be elite for our next Celebrity trip in 2026 I'm about to get my 3rd status match on Celebrity this month, so I'm very confident it is as often as you sail the other brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXcruzer Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 3 hours ago, smokeybandit said: He's missing the point here. RC does not offer redeemable points like hotels do. So RCG patrons can't be earn-and-burn customers. And appreciating the perks is BECAUSE of earning points, which people want to continue to do as easily as possible. Just giving me an extra bag of laundry on Celebrity doesn't make me want to cruise Celebrity. But me earning C&A points on Celebrity to push me to the next C&A tier would. Agreed, big swing and a miss as far as I am concerned. More Value for regular "X" customers to sail Royal than the other way around. WAAAYTOOO and Jill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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