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On 9/2/2020 at 3:09 PM, JLMoran said:

Assuming it's ultimately the 5-minute rapid test that was announced recently, I imagine that the cost of the test will be bundled into the cruise fare of every passenger. I'm also hopeful that the cost of that test will be in line with that of a home pregnancy test or other OTC rapid-result test.

It's part of the cruise cost on the current MSC sailings, surely the cruise lines will look at it as a small price to pay if it restarts cruises, and we as the passengers will ultimately end up paying for it, it will just be hidden as part of out cruise fare.

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On 9/2/2020 at 4:09 PM, JLMoran said:

Assuming it's ultimately the 5-minute rapid test that was announced recently, I imagine that the cost of the test will be bundled into the cruise fare of every passenger. I'm also hopeful that the cost of that test will be in line with that of a home pregnancy test or other OTC rapid-result test.

I wasn't talking about the test.

If I pay $4000 for a weeks cruise from Barcelona and turn up at port to be denied boarding and have to arrange a quick flight home or 2 week's hotel quarantine my insurance won't cover it.

If they start testing before boarding this is¬† a red flag for me as I cannot be stuck in a foreign country. ūüėě

 

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4 minutes ago, Morganno said:

If they start testing before boarding this is¬† a red flag for me as I cannot be stuck in a foreign country. ūüėě

I think "pre-flight" testing is going to be a fact of life, not just with cruising but any form of mass leisure travel / accommodation, once these rapid tests are being made at scale. And it will stay that way until we have a vaccine and whatever percentage of global population antibody-positive is finally agreed as enough to confer "herd immunity." And that will be in addition to daily / every other day follow-up testing on board, to catch any new cases that didn't get caught in the initial screening.

To be clear, this is my own thinking and not that of the Healthy Sail Commission at RCL. But other cruise lines are already establishing the pattern with their test sailings, and I'd be very surprised if it didn't end up being the official standard when finally announced.

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I think we will see some regional differences between implementations for items such as testing.  Privacy laws may come to into play to differing degrees i.e. HIPAA in the USA.  

The Abbott 5 minute test involved a digital pass app.  The benefit to this is that Abbott is the organization that has to comply with HIPAA as they store your information in their infrastructure, not the baseball park, movie theater, hotel resort or cruise line that will ask to see your pass. 

If companies like a hotel resort or cruise line is acquiring and implementing the test they may be subject to HIPAA and that is no small undertaking.  Will airlines, hotel resorts, baseball parks or cruise lines partner with a 3rd party to be present at their facility so they are on site to perform a test upon customer arrival?  That doesn't sound cheap.  Will your health care provider pay for it?  Probably not (in the USA) - many providers don't cover elective procedures and only only cover items that they consider essential.  Going to a baseball game and requiring a test is not essential.  What will Abbott charge these companies so they can read your digital pass?

A pre-flight test for domestic flying works because it's domestic.  International flights are a different matter.  

So many details to work out.    What works in Europe may not work in the USA, Canada or Australia.  A ship visiting different countries may face a challenge getting all the countries to accept the same solution.  The EU may have a great advantage in this respect so cruising there may be easier to get going.

These are good problems to face as it means we are progressing.  It will be very interesting to see how this works out.  

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