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As mentioned smoking has been banned indoors in New Zealand and Australia for many years and includes cruise ships. Like many here I won't be stepping into the casinos BECAUSE of the smoking during our Harmony trip in February whereas we spent a pretty little penny on our last cruise in the casino on our last cruise out of Australia. 

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You're lucky i'm not in charge, i would ban smoking indoors (to include the casino) and make the only place for smoking, in the aft (designated section) upper decks.  If you get caught smoking in a no

I for one would actually start gambling on cruise ships if the casinos were entirely smoke free.  So I wonder how many current gamblers would quit and how many new ones would start...

The current smoking rules save me a fortune.  I avoid the casino on all ships but Empress which is smoke free.  I lose money on Empress so it's kind of an inverted blessing they allow smokers in the c

On 12/1/2019 at 5:16 PM, bobroo said:

But on more serious note: what the hell is RC going to do about legalized marijuana? With so many states allowing it. With public perception changing that it’s OK to do....how is RC going to proceed?

By keeping Sorrento's open all night long and offering nachos, Cheetos and Doritos available from room service 24 hours a day too. 😂

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On 12/1/2019 at 4:16 PM, bobroo said:

But on more serious note: what the hell is RC going to do about legalized marijuana? With so many states allowing it. With public perception changing that it’s OK to do....how is RC going to proceed?

Depending on where they are, Royal is going to follow US federal law, the laws of whatever country they are visiting, or whatever laws govern drug use in international waters.  If they ever allow marijuana use, I would fully expect it to be restricted to the smoking sections.

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On 12/3/2019 at 6:07 PM, Atlantix2000 said:

Depending on where they are, Royal is going to follow US federal law, the laws of whatever country they are visiting, or whatever laws govern drug use in international waters.  If they ever allow marijuana use, I would fully expect it to be restricted to the smoking sections.


Smoking isn’t the only way people use marijuana anymore ........ edibles (candy), patches, creams, capsules to name just a few 

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On ‎12‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 5:07 AM, EmersonNZ said:

As mentioned smoking has been banned indoors in New Zealand and Australia for many years and includes cruise ships. Like many here I won't be stepping into the casinos BECAUSE of the smoking during our Harmony trip in February whereas we spent a pretty little penny on our last cruise in the casino on our last cruise out of Australia. 

On  Harmony..the non-smoking side of the casino really wasn't bad. Best out of any ship I have been on for a non-smoking side! Friends of ours who are not smokers and couldn't stand to be on the smoking side actually didn't mind the non-smoking side.....yes, you can smell it.....but there wasn't the smoke to be breathing in.

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I am a fitness buff. I eat well and go to the gym 5 days a week.

I also enjoy life and believe in moderation.

I enjoy a good whiskey and a good cigar on ocassion. Cruising is one of those ocassions. I always enjoyed the concierge lounge on ships that had them. I also realize it's a bit of a niche market and allocating square footage that does not make money is a corporate no no.

I would settle for a nice spot out side, out of the wind with a nice view most any where on the ship where I could have a drink and a smoke. They have found room for water sldes, candy shops and many other things I have little interest in. Reserving a small, appropriate space for people like me should not be that hard, biased, controversial or political.

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3 hours ago, Ditchdoc said:

I am a fitness buff. I eat well and go to the gym 5 days a week.

I also enjoy life and believe in moderation.

I enjoy a good whiskey and a good cigar on ocassion. Cruising is one of those ocassions. I always enjoyed the concierge lounge on ships that had them. I also realize it's a bit of a niche market and allocating square footage that does not make money is a corporate no no.

I would settle for a nice spot out side, out of the wind with a nice view most any where on the ship where I could have a drink and a smoke. They have found room for water sldes, candy shops and many other things I have little interest in. Reserving a small, appropriate space for people like me should not be that hard, biased, controversial or political.

The problem is that water slides, candy shops and many other things doesn't cause cancer to others.  

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50 minutes ago, carlosalonsor said:

The problem is that water slides, candy shops and many other things doesn't cause cancer to others.  

I certainly understand. Those concerned should simply avoid the smoking area. That is a personal choice.

A water slide may not cause cancer but according the National Institute of Health, riders have sustained lacerations (53%), contusions or abrasions (25%), fractured bones (7%), sprains (7%), fractured teeth (6%), and concussions (3%). I wont even get into candy, obesity, diabetes etc.

Pick your life style and live it.

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2 minutes ago, Ditchdoc said:

I certainly understand. Those concerned should simply avoid the smoking area. That is a personal choice.

A water slide may not cause cancer but according the National Institute of Health, riders have sustained lacerations (53%), contusions or abrasions (25%), fractured bones (7%), sprains (7%), fractured teeth (6%), and concussions (3%). I wont even get into candy, obesity, diabetes etc.

Pick your life style and live it.

Again, waterslides riders don't cause cancer or injuries to OTHERS that doesn't use them.

"Simply avoid the smoking area" is an oversimplification of a problem that DOES affect OTHERS that doesn't smoke. 

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On 12/10/2019 at 8:52 PM, CoupleOfCruisers said:

I certainly hope they ban smoking in casino and soon! Before my April cruise would be fabulous! I’d spend more time in casino but the smoke can get to me after awhile! 

I would prefer they just ban it on the ship altogether, but it won't ever happen.  I hate when I walk somewhere to be accosted by 2nd hand smoke. 

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5 minutes ago, carlosalonsor said:

Again, waterslides riders don't cause cancer or injuries to OTHERS that doesn't use them.

"Simply avoid the smoking area" is an oversimplification of a problem that DOES affect OTHERS that doesn't smoke. 

It can not get much simpler. If you don't want to get run over, don't walk in traffic.

There is easily over a million square feet of space on a large cruise ship. A smoking lounge that was 1,000 square feet is 0.1% of that. A smoking lounge that is enclosed, ventilated, with doors is sealed and contained. If you walk in and complain of second hand smoke, I would say the problem is simple. Leave.

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14 minutes ago, Ditchdoc said:

I certainly understand. Those concerned should simply avoid the smoking area. That is a personal choice.

When the smoking area is placed somewhere that isn't adjacent to areas I intend to use and/or in the most efficient path from one point to another, I do just that. Unfortunately, the smoking area at the pool deck fails on both counts as does allowing smoking in the casino.

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1 minute ago, Ditchdoc said:

There is easily over a million square feet of space on a large cruise ship. A smoking lounge that was 1,000 square feet is 0.1% of that. A smoking lounge that is enclosed, ventilated, with doors is sealed and contained. If you walk in and complain of second hand smoke, I would say the problem is simple. Leave.

If the smoking area was confined to a closed, sealed, and contained area there would be nothing to discuss. However, the smoking areas on ships are in areas that negatively impact those who do not smoke.

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10 hours ago, Jill said:

I complain on every survey about the smoke in the casino. I always plan to gamble, walk in then pretty much walk right back out. It’s the people who flock there just to sit and smoke and drink. They’re not even at a table or machine. It’s awful. 

My biggest complaint.  I'm not a smoker, but if you wanna smoke go ahead. I feel if your going to be in the casino, then you should be gambling.  Not just sitting there taking up space. I know it doesn't work because ships dont all have smoke lounges, but smoke in the smoke lounge, gamble in the casino!

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On 11/5/2019 at 1:04 PM, mworkman said:

You're lucky i'm not in charge, i would ban smoking indoors (to include the casino) and make the only place for smoking, in the aft (designated section) upper decks.  If you get caught smoking in a non-authorized location, you would be dropped off at the next port.  I'm surprised that Royal Caribbean hasn't been sued yet, by an employee that has been diagnosed with cancer from second hand smoke due to improper ventilation in the casinos.

I'd be even worse. The risk of fire is too great, I wish they would ban smoking, period. I would ban ban smoking altogether.

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On 12/13/2019 at 8:32 PM, Jill said:

I complain on every survey about the smoke in the casino. I always plan to gamble, walk in then pretty much walk right back out. It’s the people who flock there just to sit and smoke and drink. They’re not even at a table or machine. It’s awful. 

Same with me and my wife. We mention it on the survey with every cruise

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Simple solution...have a smoking room....not in the casino..I am really surprised the cruise lines haven't done that....would be easy and cheap. Why haven't they?....

 

So it stands to reason, that they must WANT the smokers to smoke in the casino...why do you think that is? If you and everyone else hates smoke in there and would gamble more if they banned smoking...but they don't do it....why is that?

 

$$$ is the bottom line....Royal doesn't do anything that wont make them money.....that's the issue at the end of the day.

 

They don't care  that you don't like the smell of it or breathing it in(hello, your on a cruise ship that spews toxins into the atmosphere 24hrs a day).....

 

So rather than bitch about it.....come up with a solution that will satisfy Royal and yourself....till then, status quo it is..

 

One day I am sure  it will be smoke free inside..but it will be on Royals terms..not cause you don't like the smell of it.

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