Lovetocruise2002 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 From a fellow insider.... JLMoran, ThyriC, KristiZ and 2 others 3 2 Quote
SteveinSC Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: From a fellow insider.... This is exactly what I referenced in my post in the general discussion area about smaller ships. Older, smaller ships being sent off to subsidies. Wonder what ship will replace it in Baltimore? Quote
Lovetocruise2002 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, SteveinSC said: This is exactly what I referenced in my post in the general discussion area about smaller ships. Older, smaller ships being sent off to subsidies. Wonder what ship will replace it in Baltimore? According to the post in our Insiders group, it said Enchantment. ChessE4 and SteveinSC 1 1 Quote
Lovetocruise2002 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Posted October 16, 2019 Also just posted from @Matt: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2019/10/16/grandeur-of-the-seas-leave-royal-caribbean-fleet Matt and SteveinSC 2 Quote
FManke Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: From a fellow insider.... @coneyraven say it isn't so!?! coneyraven 1 Quote
SteveinSC Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Also just posted from @Matt: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2019/10/16/grandeur-of-the-seas-leave-royal-caribbean-fleet The fact that they had cruises scheduled that now have to be considered, and the problems the ship had last month with the propulsion, lead me to wonder if the change is a result of the problems? Perhaps a sign that "its time"? Interesting. Quote
CGTLH Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: According to the post in our Insiders group, it said Enchantment. Fun question now, what if anything will replace Enchantment in San Juan. Quote
Sweety Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 I am on the last sailing. I Love Grandeur. Lady G was my first cruise ship. I am going to miss her. I have two more sailings with her. KristiZ and SteveinSC 2 Quote
Sweety Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 i am so sad. Now I have to book more cruises to console myself. Where is my Husband's card? HeWhoWaits, mook1525, SteveinSC and 7 others 8 1 1 Quote
coneyraven Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, FManke said: @coneyraven say it isn't so!?! I am absolutely crushed ...... cruisestuff, JLMoran, SpeedNoodles and 4 others 7 Quote
SPS Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, coneyraven said: I am absolutely crushed ...... Saw this news on twitter and you were the first person I thought of. My sincerest condolences. coneyraven 1 Quote
Boston Babe Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, coneyraven said: I am absolutely crushed ...... I am too. Lady G held a special place in my heart, first cruise with my husband who is now terminally ill. The staff and crew were the absolute best. Both cruises provided us though with fabulous lifetime memories. SpeedNoodles, USCG Teacher, rjweber3 and 6 others 1 7 1 Quote
SteveinSC Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, coneyraven said: I am absolutely crushed ...... Enchantment..... not bad for a rebound? Quote
coneyraven Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, SPS said: Saw this news on twitter and you were the first person I thought of. My sincerest condolences. Thank You ..... there's no denying my love for the old girl........We had just moved a booking FROM her to Mariner due to a family conflict. By the looks of this, it would've been canceled regardless (April 15th of '21). Quote
coneyraven Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, SteveinSC said: Enchantment..... not bad for a rebound? Yeah, I'm selling that thought to my wife as we speak. The fact that Enchantment has 2 pools will help. SteveinSC 1 Quote
Boston Babe Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, Sweety said: I have two more sailings with her. I just told Jack, that was a deal breaker! I'm booked on her March 2020, and if I can swing it, am GOING!! Sweety 1 Quote
twangster Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, coneyraven said: I am absolutely crushed ...... 14 minutes ago, coneyraven said: Yeah, I'm selling that thought to my wife as we speak. The fact that Enchantment has 2 pools will help. Enchantment Poo-Bah just doesn't have the same ring to it. SpeedNoodles, Boston Babe, coneyraven and 2 others 3 2 Quote
coneyraven Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, twangster said: Enchantment Poo-Bah just doesn't have the same ring to it. Yeah, I was thinking about that ..... Bloody Marylander? SpeedNoodles, gmanager, JLMoran and 2 others 5 Quote
wstephensi Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 Planning a New England/Canada cruise for our 30th anniversary in a couple of years. Enchantment was our first cruise in '99. The wife will be surprised. Quote
FManke Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, coneyraven said: I am absolutely crushed ...... The question remains. Will you cheat on RC in the future to be with your true love? Quote
coneyraven Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, FManke said: The question remains. Will you cheat on RC in the future to be with your true love? Um, nope, we'll just have to adjust ..... SpeedNoodles 1 Quote
FManke Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, coneyraven said: Um, nope, we'll just have to adjust ..... You're looking at it the right way. It's better to just make a clean brake and move forward. There's another good one out there in your future. Quote
coneyraven Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, FManke said: You're looking at it the right way. It's better to just make a clean brake and move forward. There's another good one out there in your future. You figure, they're not going to dump a lot of money into her since the end of her time has been announced Quote
spiralqueen Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 I wonder where her staff will end up? From all the talk I've heard about Grandeur, the employees are what really makes it shine. Quote
ThyriC Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 I'm also heartbroken to hear this about Lady G. But at least I have a chance to say goodbye to her. I guess my move to South Carolina was serendipity. When Lady G leaves Baltimore, so do I. Quote
PG Cruiser Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 This is sad... I was looking at itineraries on Lady G yesterday... looks like I have to pursue the May 2020 sailing I've been eyeing. Quote
monctonguy Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 I am on the Lady G train now....we were going to book Adventure in 2020 to Bermuda, but may look at trying to get on Grandeur instead before shes gone! SpeedNoodles 1 Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 I will see if the crew has heard of this yet. Heading back to the casino now. I’m slightly concerned about Enchantment after Twangster’s review from last year. Not sure where we will turn as an option. I guess we will be retired and living in FLA by then anyway... spiralqueen and SpeedNoodles 2 Quote
AGSLC5 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: I will see if the crew has heard of this yet. Heading back to the casino now. I’m slightly concerned about Enchantment after Twangster’s review from last year. Not sure where we will turn as an option. I guess we will be retired and living in FLA by then anyway... Raye trust me don't go on Enchantment.. I wish they would sell her. Honestly it needs so much work I think its a terrible option for Baltimore.. I don't know if a radiance class ship can fit in Baltimore but if it can that's what they should of went with.. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote
mook1525 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, AGSLC5 said: Raye trust me don't go on Enchantment.. I wish they would sell her. Honestly it needs so much work I think its a terrible option for Baltimore.. I don't know if a radiance class ship can fit in Baltimore but if it can that's what they should of went with.. What is wrong with Enchantment? too much wear and tear? Quote
baltodave Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 I noticed that the currently listed last 2 sailings of Enchantment will be the first 2 weeks of April 2021 out of San Juan. Does this mean there may be an Enchantment repositioning cruise from San Juan to Baltimore in Spring 2021? Mrs. RoyalMoyal 1 Quote
AGSLC5 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, mook1525 said: What is wrong with Enchantment? too much wear and tear? Its personal preference.. Raye and I enjoy only doing specialty dining. Enchantment only has Chops.. Raye and I spend a lot of time in the casino.. Enchantment's Casino is small and very outdated.. And the overall Maintence of the ship in my opinion it has not been maintained very well.. But like I said personal preferences.. Quote
twangster Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, AGSLC5 said: I don't know if a radiance class ship can fit in Baltimore but if it can that's what they should of went with.. Michael Bayley has been quoted as stating that Radiance class can fit into Baltimore. He specifically said so in a Q&A on the President's cruise last year. Given that the Sunshine Skyway bridge is supposedly a few feet lower than the Key bridge and Brilliance routinely sails from Tampa it leads me to believe that Radiance class can sail into Baltimore. The problem if you want to call it that, is that Royal can make more money placing Radiance class elsewhere. Radiance was #10 in 2018 revenue ahead of Indy and Liberty. Majesty made more money last year compared to Grandeur which beat only Empress in 2018 revenue. Alaska and Australia get two Radiance class next year both of which are highly profitable destinations. Why would you put Radiance class in Baltimore and leave money on the table somewhere else? Matt and Baked Alaska 2 Quote
AGSLC5 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, twangster said: Michael Bayley has been quoted as stating that Radiance class can fit into Baltimore. He specifically said so in a Q&A on the President's cruise last year. Given that the Sunshine Skyway bridge is supposedly a few feet lower than the Key bridge and Brilliance routinely sails from Tampa it leads me to believe that Radiance class can sail into Baltimore. The problem if you want to call it that, is that Royal can make more money placing Radiance class elsewhere. Radiance was #10 in 2018 revenue ahead of Indy and Liberty. Majesty made more money last year compared to Grandeur which beat only Empress in 2018 revenue. Alaska and Australia get two Radiance class next year both of which are highly profitable destinations. Why would you put Radiance class in Baltimore and leave money on the table somewhere else? agreed they wouldn't.. Honestly this doesn't effect me at all.. I live in south Florida and never leave from Baltimore but I do feel bad for the people who live close and are now only given in my opinion a subpar option.. Quote
twangster Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, AGSLC5 said: agreed they wouldn't.. Honestly this doesn't effect me at all.. I live in south Florida and never leave from Baltimore but I do feel bad for the people who live close and are now only given in my opinion a subpar option.. Before Majesty and Empress sailings became so cheap in the wake of the Cuba changes it was not unusual for Grandeur to be one of the cheapest cruises available. Granted that was for interior or ocean view cabins. She doesn't have many balconies so they quickly sold out at higher prices. Enchantment has more cabins. 996 total cabins become 1,142 total cabins 399 interior cabins become 463 interior cabins 381 OV cabins become 431 OV cabins 122 balconies become 154 balconies 94 suites stays at 94 suites For those cheap cabins types that were often the lowest fares in the fleet there will 104 more of them to sell. Opportunity for those wanting to build up C&A points. Quote
Lovetocruise2002 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, coneyraven said: I am absolutely crushed ...... I thought of you immediately when I first saw the news this morning... 1 hour ago, WAAAYTOOO said: I’m slightly concerned about Enchantment after Twangster’s review from last year. This was my next thought after I thought of Mark...can't say I was surprised by this though. coneyraven 1 Quote
Sweety Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 just booked my parents on the last sailing with me. It's going to be a family affair. coneyraven 1 Quote
twangster Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 I grabbed a refundable OV booking for the last cruise in case I feel like taking in the final cruise. The Cruise Junkie, ThyriC, Sweety and 1 other 3 1 Quote
KathyC Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 We enjoyed Lady G and may give Enchantment a try when she comes to town. Will seriously think about that repo if it's offered. Timing should be good for after tax season, if I'm still at my job then - which I hope not to be!! LOL Enchantment did well when she was in Baltimore before, so I've heard, so maybe she'll do well again. We shall see! Quote
ChrisK2793 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 Personally, I think it would be great if RC got rid of all the ships in the Vision or even Radiance class size and below ..... and then built NEW / MODERN ships in those class sizes. These are very old and very bad for the environment and I’m not even an environmental type person. SteveinSC 1 Quote
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