tonyfsu21 975 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 What’s your best guess on a date when RC will sail again in any way shape or form with paying guests? My gut tells me: April 2021 Kathleen and RCIfan1912 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neesa 983 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 With this latest cancellation (The Odyssey) RCCL offered a slide so to speak, it said I can take the sailing and apply my monies to another SHIP within a week before, same week or the week after the date scheduled. I looked but then thought, I'm not falling for that one. While I love sailing and am always positive I have little faith now we will be sailing until 2021, just my gut telling me this. I am going to miss sailing Thanksgiving as I look forward to it, but I am requesting a refund. We have too much money tied up in RCCL right now and honestly have little faith in Mr. Fain, it dwindles with every video he does. The cruise lines seem beaten down and don't seem to be fighting for their industry or their people any longer, so sorry....RANT. OVER. Now that being said if they do sail I will go to the Cocoa Beach area and wave to my lucky fellow cruisers who had more faith then me! I would LOVE to get back to safe & healthy sailing, and we know it can be done. sk8erguy1978, tonyfsu21 and RCIfan1912 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sk8erguy1978 1,151 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 This is more difficult than predicting the next number on a roulette wheel, with that said, my random guess ... November 1st, 2020. It's only July 1st tomorrow, so anything is possible. They really need to treat this on a week by week basis, with decisions made based on scientific facts and right now facts say the US isn't over the first wave yet given the increase in other states. teddy, RCIfan1912, tonyfsu21 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snotarni 147 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 9/15/2020 in limited offerings... Neesa, USFFrank and ehw51 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twangster 29,661 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 I'm thinking 2021 for the U.S. with other regions possibly sooner (China specifically). The delay with Odyssey's delivery buys them some additional time. sk8erguy1978 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sk8erguy1978 1,151 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, Neesa said: While I love sailing and am always positive I have little faith now we will be sailing until 2021 1 minute ago, twangster said: I'm thinking 2021 for the U.S. with other regions possibly sooner (China specifically). I feel the same about 2021, probably spring time (March?) but want to remain positive so holding my guess for November of this year LOL! (I cancelled all cruises for this year, so it's positive for others, and the cruise lines financial bottom line). Neesa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GA Cruiser 25 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Snotarni said: 9/15/2020 in limited offerings... That the latest moving target. Hopefully it will come to pass. Snotarni 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedNoodles 4,879 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 I'm pretty sure I'll lose my January Empress sailing. I'm so afraid I'll never get to sail on her. bhageerah and ehw51 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AGSLC5 747 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 I Think November 1.. I think they very much want to have a Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years Season.. ehw51, teddy, Kathleen and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean79 152 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, AGSLC5 said: I Think November 1.. I think they very much want to have a Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years Season.. They very much want a summer cruise season too, but the CDC poopooed all over that!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnK6404 1,176 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 My gut is saying 2020 is done... likely early 2021 at this point unless the CDC, federal and state/local governments lighten up and we dodge a COVID relapse this fall/winter. Not that Broadway is any indication, but they just cancelled all shows for the rest of 2020. Kathleen 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AGSLC5 747 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Bean79 said: They very much want a summer cruise season too, but the CDC poopooed all over that!!! Yes they did but A Christmas Cruise and a New Years Cruise sometimes brings in more money than the whole summer season.. I go on a New Years cruise every year with my family and the prices are always sky high. The top suites are Crazy Expensive so yeah I know they want a summer season but Holiday is most important time for them so I feel like they will try to Lobby Hard for it with the CDC.. Now do I know for sure of course not just my opinion that Royal will fight hard for a holiday season more than a summer season.. joshgates and Kathleen 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnK6404 1,176 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, crisgold52 said: I agree which is why I'm holding off on making any cruise planner purchases for NOV OR FEB ... the money is sitting on my credit card as a reserve but I will not make any cp purchases till one week before I leave. Just remember that you risk paying much higher prices through the Cruise Planner for beverage or dining packages, etc., if you skip the sales that may come along earlier (possibly Black Friday) and wait until the last minute. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCIfan1912 728 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 My guess which is worth less than a penny because no one knows, is late spring 2021. The thing is no one knows because this virus is still skyrocketing in this country. We are not getting a handle on things. This is hurting when cruises can start here in the US, and killing the lines themselves literally. We have the power, we just ain't doing what needs to be done. sk8erguy1978 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boston Babe 850 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 I'm thinking April 2021, hoping that's not the case, but realistic, get through the "fall/winter period to see how this virus reacts. So much uncertainty even with traveling locally now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ampurp85 1,231 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 I am still going with this year 2020. Regardless if cases are going up, there is no reason the CDC will extend the ban. 2021 is too far away, cruise lines might as well just file bankruptcy if that is the case. There will probably be stringent rules but I am sure there will be Thanksgiving and Christmas sailings. Right now a lot of people who don't want to listen are feeling the burn but by Aug things should be different. We could avoid a second wave if everyone is careful and be cruising. WAAAYTOOO and Jill 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twangster 29,661 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Ampurp85 said: I am still going with this year 2020. Regardless if cases are going up, there is no reason the CDC will extend the ban. 2021 is too far away, cruise lines might as well just file bankruptcy if that is the case. There will probably be stringent rules but I am sure there will be Thanksgiving and Christmas sailings. Right now a lot of people who don't want to listen are feeling the burn but by Aug things should be different. I like the way you think and hope you are right. That is until I reached this point: 1 hour ago, Ampurp85 said: We could avoid a second wave if everyone is careful ... There are too many "The government can't tell me what to do!" types in America. If it were not for them cruising would be starting in a month or two. joshgates and Ampurp85 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyfsu21 975 Posted June 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Neesa said: With this latest cancellation (The Odyssey) RCCL offered a slide so to speak, it said I can take the sailing and apply my monies to another SHIP within a week before, same week or the week after the date scheduled. I looked but then thought, I'm not falling for that one. While I love sailing and am always positive I have little faith now we will be sailing until 2021, just my gut telling me this. I am going to miss sailing Thanksgiving as I look forward to it, but I am requesting a refund. We have too much money tied up in RCCL right now and honestly have little faith in Mr. Fain, it dwindles with every video he does. The cruise lines seem beaten down and don't seem to be fighting for their industry of their people any longer, so sorry....RANT. OVER. Now that being said if they do sail I will go to the Cocoa Beach area and wave to my lucky fellow cruisers who had more faith then me! I would LOVE to get back to safe & healthy sailing, and we know it can be done. Same here re: Thanksgiving. We look forward to Thanksgiving week on an Oasis class ship every year. It’s really going to be a strange feeling not being on a ship during this time but I don’t have much faith either in 2020. Neesa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ampurp85 1,231 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 @twangster I am trying to be optimistic. I stand by my assessment that people are inherently evil and we have to work at being kind and good. Since I work from home, I have been helping my friend at her restaurant on the weekends. She has been open for a month: three weeks of patio seating only and one at dining room, all socially distanced. Other than the yahoos off the street with no mask who just walk in and use the bathroom without asking, everything else is going smoothly. People are desperate to be out, so they have been following all the rules. However, this is Chicago and we have been pretty good about mask, social distancing, etc. Although Texas and Florida are seeing spikes right now, I feel like in the next month or so they will get their act together. I think the 15th of Sept is feasible, that's 10 weeks away. A lot can change in 10 weeks. I think the CLIA did the lines a favor by voluntarily suspending cruises. When China starts back in July, they will have an idea of how things can go or should go, plus enough time to implement changes. USFFrank, KristiZ and RCIfan1912 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twangster 29,661 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Just now, Ampurp85 said: @twangster I am trying to be optimistic. I stand by my assessment that people are inherently evil and we have to work at being kind and good. Since I work from home, I have been helping my friend at her restaurant on the weekends. She has been open for a month: three weeks of patio seating only and one at dining room, all socially distanced. Other than the yahoos off the street with no mask who just walk in and use the bathroom without asking, everything else is going smoothly. People are desperate to be out, so they have been following all the rules. However, this is Chicago and we have been pretty good about mask, social distancing, etc. Although Texas and Florida are seeing spikes right now, I feel like in the next month or so they will get their act together. I think the 15th of Sept is feasible, that's 10 weeks away. A lot can change in 10 weeks. I think the CLIA did the lines a favor by voluntarily suspending cruises. When China starts back in July, they will have an idea of how things can go or should go, plus enough time to implement changes. I like the way you think. So much so you have convinced me to book a December 2020 cruise Jill, KristiZ, JLMoran and 3 others 2 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ampurp85 1,231 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 @twangster I would so be booking a thanksgiving or Christmas/NY cruise if my job hadn't ban travel. As it stands I am going to do a Revolutions Brew cruise(July 19th) and October Beers and Brats(Sept 24th) just to get by butt on the water. Two hours on the Chicago river is better than being on land. twangster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sk8erguy1978 1,151 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 3 hours ago, JohnK6404 said: Just remember that you risk paying much higher prices through the Cruise Planner for beverage or dining packages, etc., if you skip the sales that may come along earlier (possibly Black Friday) and wait until the last minute. Yep. I'll scoop at sales times, just because. Heck, I'm tempted to grab the standard 20% off drink package price as they might decide to randomly increase that! JohnK6404 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CJS2766 72 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Keeping my fingers crossed that my November 8 sailing aboard the Oasis is on. I REALLY don't want to wait until next year to cruise. Fingers crossed! JohnK6404 and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill 1,045 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Ok so being a Floridian (who’s not on a ventilator by the way ) if schools are back in session in August and it goes well, we will be sailing in October. At the grocery today everyone had masks on. August is do or die in Florida. The 8 state universities are all starting back in person with social distancing and masks. Public schools too. If we make it through the first 2-3 weeks without a massive spike, we just may sail out of Florida. I’m most interested in how they will reduce capacity on board after all cancellations and Lift and Shift have taken place. Right now there are still many cabins available on my October Symphony Katy H 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyfsu21 975 Posted July 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, Jill said: Ok so being a Floridian (who’s not on a ventilator by the way ) if schools are back in session in August and it goes well, we will be sailing in October. At the grocery today everyone had masks on. August is do or die in Florida. The 8 state universities are all starting back in person with social distancing and masks. Public schools too. If we make it through the first 2-3 weeks without a massive spike, we just may sail out of Florida. I’m most interested in how they will reduce capacity on board after all cancellations and Lift and Shift have taken place. Right now there are still many cabins available on my October Symphony If I post pictures of Duval Street this holiday weekend the 3rd page of predictions will all read 2021 and beyond! DDaley 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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