FManke Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, coneyraven said: Exactly ...... She's still in the family ...... would she ever come back? Doubtful.... but, you never know..... just look at Empress. As for Pullmantur, along with Grandeur, she'll be sailing with her older sisters, Monarch and Sovereign. Does anybody know anything about Pullmantur? Until the posting about Grandeur, I had never heard about the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyraven Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, FManke said: Does anybody know anything about Pullmantur? Until the posting about Grandeur, I had never heard about the company. To my knowledge, Royal owns 49% of the company. They primarily serve the Spanish and Latin America market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, FManke said: Does anybody know anything about Pullmantur? Until the posting about Grandeur, I had never heard about the company. No, I don't know much about it. Just knew that they got Empress for a few years then transfer back to Royal again. According to Wikipedia has 49% of the company other 51% own by Springwater Capital. The link to Wikipedia below if anyone interest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullmantur_Cruises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyMedic Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 19 hours ago, FManke said: Does anybody know anything about Pullmantur? Until the posting about Grandeur, I had never heard about the company. Currently Sovereign and Monarch are cruising with them. Splendour and Legend are currently with Marella formerly TUI as Marella Discovery and Discovery 2 which is also partly owned by Royal Caribbean as well. coneyraven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 12:16 AM, KristiZ said: Looks like this last sailing might end up being an Unofficial Group Cruise... Which sailing is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristiZ Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 59 minutes ago, PG Cruiser said: Which sailing is this? 8 Night SE Coast & Perfect Day March 26, 2021, from Baltimore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, KristiZ said: 8 Night SE Coast & Perfect Day March 26, 2021, from Baltimore I booked for that sailing! Sweety and KristiZ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Va4fam Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 We have not sailed Grandeur yet. Baltimore is practically in our back yard so I guess I take it for granted she would always be waiting to take us on a trip. Looks like I need to book her before it's too late. No complaints about Enchantment, she was our first RCI cruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweety Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 The last of our 3 cabin celebration booked over the weekend. We are going to have a blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Babe Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sweety said: The last of our 3 cabin celebration booked over the weekend. We are going to have a blast. What sailing? I might have to join you and you can adopt me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweety Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, Boston Babe said: What sailing? I might have to join you and you can adopt me!! March 26, 2021. Please come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Babe Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Sweety said: March 26, 2021. Please come. Let me take a look. I'm supposed to be on celebrity constellation Feb, and Allure March! LOL Not sure how I can pull that off unless I win the lottery as football isn't working! LOL!! Sweety 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRT Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 my Wife and I are also booked on the March 26 sailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Do anyone think there's a chance Royal may delay the release of GotS, to use her for a period of time, in helping the company recoup some lost revenue because of the virus; or, just let her go her merry way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 I suspect it's more a question of the receiving cruise line continuing on the same time line. Just as Royal is delaying new terminals and amplifications, will Pullmantur pick up the phone and inform Royal they can't take Grandeur until some future date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyraven Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, twangster said: I suspect it's more a question of the receiving cruise line continuing on the same time line. Just as Royal is delaying new terminals and amplifications, will Pullmantur pick up the phone and inform Royal they can't take Grandeur until some future date? Yeah, that would break my heart ... lol twangster, DandA and JLMoran 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyMedic Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Well there goes my two sailings that I had planed for Grandeur. We canceled the first sailing due to itinerary changes that would not allow us to go to Canada and New England. Now our Bermuda cruise is canceled with the latest round of cancellations. JLMoran, WAAAYTOOO and Chadster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I've got a Christmas cruise booked on Grandeur. I really hope I get to sail her one time before she...well...sails off to different waters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 8:33 AM, twangster said: I suspect it's more a question of the receiving cruise line continuing on the same time line. Just as Royal is delaying new terminals and amplifications, will Pullmantur pick up the phone and inform Royal they can't take Grandeur until some future date? Just curious to know...is the deal "as is" or would Royal do some level of refurbishments, before turning it over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Grandeur just pulled up to the pier in St. Maarten. Her sisters Vision and Enchantment are at the other pier. PTZtv: https://www.portstmaartenwebcam.com/ She can no longer be found on the website. KristiZ, monctonguy, KathyC and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Yeah, you're right. If you go to "Find a Cruise" then click on "Ships", Grandeur isn't even in the list to choose from. ehw51 and SpeedNoodles 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Still on the website, just not on bookable list. https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/grandeur-of-the-seas ehw51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Yes, it is still there under "ships" on the home page, but it's not even listed as an option if you go "Find a Cruise" and then choose "Ships" (over on the right hand side of the page...not at the top). twangster and ehw51 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristiZ Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 20 hours ago, twangster said: She can no longer be found on the website. I think this is because all her remaining itineraries are 8+ days ehw51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koepper Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 My wife and I had hoped to take one final cruise on Grandeur in February but I guess we will probably not get that chance. All of Maryland says good bye to Grandeur. And Hello to Enchantment!!! ehw51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Koepper said: My wife and I had hoped to take one final cruise on Grandeur in February but I guess we will probably not get that chance. All of Maryland says good bye to Grandeur. And Hello to Enchantment!!! I was booked for Grandeur’s supposed farewell sailing in March 2021 (under Royal) but this pandemic turned everything upside down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 10 hours ago, ericfromripp said: vision was one of my faves until i spent 36 days in a row on her last september and october Were you on for the Panama Canal Oct. 30? If so we might have crossed paths... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 6:49 AM, ericfromripp said: i honestly don't think you are going to miss anything. that ship has been "sold" several times but because of its poor condition, nobody wants it. the vision class used to be great but now royal just doesn't have the time or money to do regular maintenance. i have been on 5 of the 6 except for splendor, the vision was one of my faves until i spent 36 days in a row on her last september and october and there was nothing left of her charm. there is a reason why the grandeur cruise was always 1/3 the price of a cruise on a nicer ship. I’m not very picky with ships. I book cruises on them more for bucket list reasons like class namesakes, inaugural and farewell sailings. acesandeights, JLMoran and ehw51 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyraven Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/4/2020 at 11:33 AM, KristiZ said: I think this is because all her remaining itineraries are 8+ days And with sailings being canceled till the end of February, that eliminates all her sailings through the end of March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, coneyraven said: And with sailings being canceled till the end of February, that eliminates all her sailings through the end of March. What is notable to me is that they realigned some ships, swapping home ports and such but they found no place for Grandeur in that mix. That was a few months ago now and even now there is still nothing for Grandeur past March. Surely if they planned to keep her they'd announce something and start taking deposits for cruises. Right when things are supposed to be opening back up you would think if she was staying they would want people booking her. Maybe they used her to secure credit and can't deal with her right now but will once March arrives. ehw51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, twangster said: Surely if they planned to keep her they'd announce something and start taking deposits for cruises. ^^ This is the tell. twangster, ehw51 and acesandeights 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyraven Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, twangster said: What is notable to me is that they realigned some ships, swapping home ports and such but they found no place for Grandeur in that mix. That was a few months ago now and even now there is still nothing for Grandeur past March. Surely if they planned to keep her they'd announce something and start taking deposits for cruises. Right when things are supposed to be opening back up you would think if she was staying they would want people booking her. Maybe they used her to secure credit and can't deal with her right now but will once March arrives. That's what I was thinking, plus, I think she was the only one with a Red Status when it came to being able to go to the Bahamas. Something is going on .... If I was a betting man, my thought is they may try to resurrect Pullmantur using her and Horizon ..... and it wouldn't surprise me if they pull Empress and/or Majesty in the mix as needed. ehw51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, coneyraven said: That's what I was thinking, plus, I think she was the only one with a Red Status when it came to being able to go to the Bahamas. Something is going on .... If I was a betting man, my thought is they may try to resurrect Pullmantur using her and Horizon ..... and it wouldn't surprise me if they pull Empress and/or Majesty in the mix as needed. I thought Horizon was being pulled apart at a Greek yard. Everyone focuses on Turkey and India but there are other ship breaking yards. Rumors circulating that two M class Celebrity ships are going to a reorganized Pullmantur. Add Grandeur and they are back at three ships. Empress is garnering high prices for it's OV cabins to boutique destinations. I could see Royal trying to keep her for those special routes. Majesty is a different story but if she breaks even in NOLA or turns a small profit they might keep her just in case Cuba comes back in 2023 or beyond. monctonguy, KristiZ, The Cruise Junkie and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmef Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Soooo should we now say "Welcome Back Grandeur"? Since she's now going to sail out of Bridgetown, Barbados? They are booking sailings starting Dec. 2021 and into Winter/Spring 2022 for ports in Trinidad, Tobago, Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose City Cruiser Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 She's back! Matt, Flopper, emmef and 3 others 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 emmef and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkelBierJay Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 My MEI TA quoted a January Barbados sailing, and I am seriously considering it. Apparently they have access. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmef Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, DunkelBierJay said: My MEI TA quoted a January Barbados sailing, and I am seriously considering it. Apparently they have access. I booked my own on the website last week for Dec 2021. They are out there... DunkelBierJay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantix2000 Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 hours ago, DunkelBierJay said: My MEI TA quoted a January Barbados sailing, and I am seriously considering it. Apparently they have access. There's a newer thread with plenty of discussion on these sailings including people booking them: DunkelBierJay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Hi all from a cold and wet Wales, UK. Long time no post from me, so belated Happy New Years, and I hope everybody is doing ok in these rather unusual times. Our 3 back to backs on Ovation in 2018 gave us the cruising bug, but the ships and trips most suitable for us in 2019 and 2020 were on 'other' cruise lines (boo!) purely due to the itineraries. Please forgive us! Great news is we will be on this 14 day Grandeur trip next February so be prepared for some stupid questions! Totally gutted I only booked the outside cabin and not the balcony as when I went back a day later to change they were all gone!! Quite a few excursions are already listed so will be googling reviews/suggestions in the coming days. Stay safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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