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I wonder if they'd fit under the Duluth Harbor Lift Bridge?  (I'm still pushing for cruises out of Minnesota/Wisconsin). #agirlcandream #ibelieveinme

I'm not.  The people are very friendly.  The people are not the government and they are not the problem.  

Won't happen for cruises, like mine, where the second day is in Cozumel.  Too far to travel in one day, I think. PS - this is all my fault.  My final payment for my Cuba cruise was 4 days ago.

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43 minutes ago, Jaymac Radio said:

I Was Just Thinking That They Could  Move Majesty Or Empress Back To Tampa To Sail For 4 &5 & 7 Night Caribbean Cruises Because When Brilliance And Rhapsody Leave They Have No Other Ships There.

I'm doubtful they'd do that after making all the improvements and refurbishments to Navigator and Mariner so that those ships can make those shorter sailings. Goal is clearly to get new cruisers (overall, or just with Royal) to try out the brand and see how amazing their ships are, with a message that all of their ships are (or soon will be) similarly amazing and these new cruisers should try out longer sailings on their other ships. Putting a much older and non-upgraded ship like Majesty or Empress back into service for those itineraries alongside those ships would I think risk confusing the message.

Since the Radiance and especially Vision class ships are still big in Europe for sailing more exotic itineraries to hard-to-reach ports, I could see Majesty or Empress moving there to help service some of those itineraries.

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2 hours ago, Jaymac Radio said:

I Was Just Thinking That They Could  Move Majesty Or Empress Back To Tampa To Sail For 4 &5 & 7 Night Caribbean Cruises Because When Brilliance And Rhapsody Leave They Have No Other Ships There.

 

1 hour ago, JLMoran said:

Since the Radiance and especially Vision class ships are still big in Europe for sailing more exotic itineraries to hard-to-reach ports, I could see Majesty or Empress moving there to help service some of those itineraries.

 

The challenge is that it's now almost May.  Assuming they need to place them somewhere for January 2020 that's only 7 months away.  Seven months to fill a ship is a tall order since its a very short sales cycle.   People have booked other ships and made vacation plans.  Where ever they place them they may lose money until they work through the interim period.  That's assuming they find a place to stick them for January that doesn't compete with existing ships nearby.  That's not easy either with so many ships competing for the same ports that all cruise lines use.    They might be better to put the original plans back in the works and shift them out of the fleet.

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Here's an article that represents what I have been hearing from several sources...

Ultimately, I think the government wants more pressure to be put on the Cuban government by their citizens...maybe thinking that removing the dollars that are going there now will do it...my view is that it is inconsistent since travel to mainland China and even North Korea isn't necessarily restrictive. Saying that tourism dollars somehow legitimizes that government also seems ridiculous. There needs to be more dialog, not less...just my opinion...worthless that it is.

https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/trump-administration-imposes-restrictions-on-travel-to-cuba

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1 hour ago, WAAAYTOOO said:

Do we know for certain that they are going to stop allowing cruises to go to Cuba next year ?  I thought it was just a "maybe".

Here is what each cruise line had to say about the Cuba restrictions:

Royal Caribbean “We have not altered any of our sailings at this time.”

Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings - “We are closely monitoring recent developments with respect to US-Cuba travel. At this time no new regulations have been issued and accordingly, the Company’s itineraries which include Cuba as a destination will continue as scheduled.”

Virgin Voyages“At this time there are no changes to travel policies for cruises sailing to Cuba. We will continue to monitor Cuba travel policies and we will update our Sailors if there are any changes.”

Carnival Corporation“We are still evaluating this announcement, but have not made any changes to our itineraries. Booked guests will receive a communication if their itinerary is impacted.”

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I'll avoid the politics and focus on impacts to cruising, which is nothing, yet.

We can speculate but in reality we don't know and we have to sit tight and wait. 

One possible outcome is modified itineraries.  If you have a cruise and don't have travel insurance now might be a good time to consider it to protect your vacation investment.  

There are other possible impacts but until we learn more there is little point in speculating.  

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It is interesting, in researching this it appears that the Cuban Government has cracked down on private tour guides, arresting and intimidating them)Blexie) to the point that they are shutting down(FerTours).  Apparently, this had started before yesterday's announcement.    Cuban tourism is a politically charged issue in both countries.

 

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I just received a call back from the OFAC enforcement office and I spoke to someone in their General Counsel's office.  The answer is...they do not know.  The actual regulations mentioned in the speech have not been drafted, and the people I spoke with had no idea of any kind of timetable.  There is an OFAC page that has the current information and you can sign up for email updates:https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/programs/pages/cuba.aspx  I think I have gone up the chain as far as I can, so now I will have to accept the "just wait and see" situation.

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I have a feeling we will not be going in December as planned...was thinking of cancelling that one anyway as I am having difficulty getting the time off.  We are doing a side to side, so would end up cancelling both as I don't want to pay to fly for only a 4 night.  I was really looking forward to the Key West though. 😞 

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11 hours ago, MrMarc said:

The most notable line in this article is:

"This form of travel will still be allowed for American tourists accompanied by U.S.-based, authorized sponsors, like cruise ship operators."

Looks like cruises to Cuba will continue.

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2 hours ago, Shari said:

The most notable line in this article is:

"This form of travel will still be allowed for American tourists accompanied by U.S.-based, authorized sponsors, like cruise ship operators."

Looks like cruises to Cuba will continue.

It could be a ship provided excursion will be required, not optional as it is today.

Time will tell.     

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