jeffmw Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 This is, apparently, what's happening on the Oasis right now, where there is currently a chartered cruise. I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about the regulations or economics of chartered cruises, who's in control, etc., but with all the problems going on with infected staff and having to cancel sailings, why would they allow this right now, as it clearly endangers upcoming sailings? (I want to be very clear that absolutely not one ounce of my sentiment here has anything to do with the fact that this is a gay cruise. I have nothing but full support and love for the LGBTQ community and events like this, which I'm sure are a blast.) I also found a post on Twitter saying that Atlantis (the folks chartering the cruise) are encouraging cruisers not to post on social media -- likely for exactly this reason, as it could potentially reflect badly on both RC and the LGBTQ community. WAAAYTOOO, PPPJJ-GCVAB, Neesa and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmw Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 In case you're interested, here's a NYT article about the cruise: Most notable: Part of the problem is that Atlantis (unlike Royal) is not allowing cancellations, so many of these people are choosing to go rather than lose $ thousands. The article also says, "While the company does not offer refunds, it says that the health and safety of its guests is a top priority and it will be enforcing Royal Caribbean’s health and safety protocols, which includes a mask mandate indoors except while eating and drinking and in crowded spaces outdoors." That seems to have gone out the window! WAAAYTOOO, Neesa and Baked Alaska 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigert2008 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 What is the source for this image? Accoring to the Atlantis Events site, there is talk of COVID19 capacity restrictions, so it's be interesting to know if this is a current photo or if someone is trying to put cruising into a bad light by providing false information. Here's the link to the site -- https://atlantisevents.com/Oasis-Caribbean-Cruise on the pricing page, there is is this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmw Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Reigert2008 said: What is the source for this image? I thought the same at first, but it does appear to be legitimate. You can find more photos on various social platforms. And there definitely is an Atlantis cruise going on right now on Oasis. FoxMCO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxMCO Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 As a member of this community, I am not surprised in the least. That's absolutely insane. Also, it appears this is current photo. I can see from the photo by zooming in some people are wearing masks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigert2008 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 I still want to believe that it is a "stock photo" from an old event. Maybe @Matthas a resource that he can reach out to for comment or information. teddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 If that's a current photo, then this is a fantastic case study opportunity WAAAYTOOO, Neesa and ChrisK2793 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin and Boozin Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 I thought that chartered cruise was next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 7 minutes ago, Cruisin and Boozin said: I thought that chartered cruise was next week Nope. The Atlantis chartered cruise is this week. I know b/c I was originally booked on a B3B on Oasis, with this cruise being the middle cruise. I was wondering if this cruise actually sailed and it appears that it has. Cruisin and Boozin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim J Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 I am starting 4 b2b on oasis next Sunday. This is the first I have heard of the charter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK2793 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 I Just googled it ….. it’s this week ….. says there’s “5,500 guys” and that it’s “Sold Out” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Noble Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Reigert2008 said: I still want to believe that it is a "stock photo" from an old event. Maybe @Matthas a resource that he can reach out to for comment or information. There is a private Facebook group for this sailing. I joined the group a few days ago to see what people say about how the cruise goes, whether they miss any port calls or not, etc. Some photos posted there today look like the same crowd, same day. I also had hoped that this was a pre-Covid photo but it looks like it's the current sailing. I would say it's likely since the NYT article indicates they are sailing with 4,700 guests. Increased guest numbers over holiday sailings led to cancellations of subsequent cruises, it seems. I am sailing on Oasis in a few weeks and I really hope we won't be affected by the case-count aftermath of this. If it is true that Atlantis' policy was nonrefundable cancellation: shame on Atlantis. Tone deaf policy in this era. jeffmw, ChrisK2793 and RWDW1204 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxMCO Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 I'd just like to also point out, wearing masks in that environment wasn't really gonna help out at all. There was never going to be social distancing on that ship as that style cruise is not geared towards people distancing at all if you catch my drift. ChrisK2793 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 From the photo it looks like there are (a lot of) people on the Aqua Theater stage. I thought stages were off limits to guests even before COVID! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 If you look in the back on one of the Aqua Suite Balconies, there are a few people wearing masks on their faces. I do believe that is a current picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK2793 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, Baked Alaska said: If you look in the back on one of the Aqua Suite Balconies, there are a few people wearing masks on their faces. I do believe that is a current picture. You’re 100% correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattG Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 I'm more impressed at the engineering of the Aquatheatre stage - they let THAT many people on there? That's amazing! I'm also wondering how that many passengers affects displacement or load on the ship. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 The Atlantis group has a very checkered past with their charters, with people dieing on sailings in the past. That being said, while I would not think this is a good thing to do at all, here's another great example of the double standard cruise lines face. Large unmasked grouping outside is a problem? Disney World recently Bills vs Pats game last weekend WWE Monday Night Raw earlier this week INDOORS TXcruzer, kadmgs, BeachGal and 16 others 10 6 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxMCO Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Yup, there is a double standard for the cruise industry and it sucks. But... you can't trace a positive case back to the theme parks, WWE event, or NFL game; at least not with any certainty. They have that major advantage over cruises. jeffmw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 We were on Oasis last week and our Genie told us that Atlantis is bringing all their own entertainment and even customer service agents. RC was adding an additional 250 staff to the ship to accommodate the additional guest counts as well as long hours the chartered cruise keeps!! The problem with charters is they pay a certain amount to charter the whole ship and the promoter must sell so much to break even or profit. Promoters, unlike RC are not in it for the long haul, instead they must profit to move on to the next big festival and profit. Hence, unfortunately, they must pack the ship as seen in the picture. I feel for the staff who must be around so many people. I know that if they get Covid, two weeks away greatly impacts the money they make when they depend on the tips. Families at home count on most of them. Here's to hoping the staff remains healthy and it doesn't impact the next few cruises on Oasis. We had such a fabulous cruise last week that I hope those that follow continue to have the same experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 56 minutes ago, FF86 said: But... you can't trace a positive case back to the theme parks, WWE event, or NFL game; at least not with any certainty. They have that major advantage over cruises. Totally true. But it's worth reminding non-cruisers of this double standard when brought up. kadmgs, FoxMCO, barbeyg and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Noble Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 @Kathleen Thanks for sharing about your conversation with your genie. I am glad to know that Atlantis brings a lot of their own staff; this is a key thing I was wondering about. Hopefully that will mean minimal impact to RCCL crew. WAAAYTOOO, Neesa and Baked Alaska 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 8 hours ago, MattG said: I'm more impressed at the engineering of the Aquatheatre stage - they let THAT many people on there? That's amazing! I'm also wondering how that many passengers affects displacement or load on the ship. I would guess if you could get past the impossible feat of fitting 5000 passengers in the aquatheatre it would have little to no affect on that monsters displacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattG Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 17 hours ago, tonyfsu21 said: I would guess if you could get past the impossible feat of fitting 5000 passengers in the aquatheatre it would have little to no affect on that monsters displacement. Atlantis has entered the chat "Hold my martini..." RWDW1204 and FoxMCO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 18 hours ago, tonyfsu21 said: I would guess if you could get past the impossible feat of fitting 5000 passengers in the aquatheatre it would have little to no affect on that monsters displacement. FoxMCO, RWDW1204 and ChrisK2793 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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