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I know I've seen this on here before (or maybe not), but when does Royal "generally" assign the cabin numbers for GTY (guarantee) cabins?  This is our first time doing a GTY cabin, which was originally booked in 2019 so I cannot remember what I was told or find the information.  Really just curious since my in-laws have a GTY cabin as well and will need sure they have a good feel for things before we set sail.  Thanks.

 

I fully expect things to be "different" due to the COVID situation, but looking for a general timeframe from the before times ?

 

 

 

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There is no set time when they get assigned, it varies for every cruise.

Royal can assign GTY cabins to optimize muster station capacity so they can open a cabin for booking that would otherwise need to stay closed.  Each lifeboat has a specific number of seats and the cabins that use that lifeboat can't exceed its capacity on an aggregate basis.   If a set of cabins have families of four that may fill a particular lifeboat "early" or maybe leave an odd number of seats so by mixing and matching GTY bookings it's like a tetris game where they can optimize muster stations.  

How this plays out for one muster station one week can be very different the next week so it all depends.  

It could assigned months before or literally the day of the cruise.  Friends in a GTY could get their assignment then 3 months later you get yours.

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16 minutes ago, twangster said:

There is no set time when they get assigned, it varies for every cruise.

Royal can assign GTY cabins to optimize muster station capacity so they can open a cabin for booking that would otherwise need to stay closed.  Each lifeboat has a specific number of seats and the cabins that use that lifeboat can't exceed its capacity on an aggregate basis.   If a set of cabins have families of four that may fill a particular lifeboat "early" or maybe leave an odd number of seats so by mixing and matching GTY bookings it's like a tetris game where they can optimize muster stations.  

How this plays out for one muster station one week can be very different the next week so it all depends.  

It could assigned months before or literally the day of the cruise.  Friends in a GTY could get their assignment then 3 months later you get yours.

Thanks so much!

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The drawback to a guarantee which is hopefully offset by the savings, is that one will often be assigned a less desirable location for a given category. This is due to the desirable locations being previously selected by guests not receiving guarantee discount. 

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10 minutes ago, AlmondFarmer said:

The drawback to a guarantee which is hopefully offset by the savings, is that one will often be assigned a less desirable location for a given category. This is due to the desirable locations being previously selected by guests not receiving guarantee discount. 

We've done GTY cabins on Disney and never had an issue, we like the cost savings and since we are basically never in the room it seems like it a good idea.  We're "inside cabin" people for those savings, and then adding the GTY savings on top adds up and allows us to do more travelling.  We would probably be pickier if we only travelled once or twice a year, but we generally take about 8 trips (of varying lengths) sine our work schedules tend to be pretty flexible.

We don;t mind the wait for the room number, but my in-laws have asked me about a million times about it ?  They've cruised before so it won't be an issue with room location. 

We're also on an Oasis class ship, so I personally don't think there is a bad room location.  

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1 hour ago, Reigert2008 said:

I know I've seen this on here before (or maybe not), but when does Royal "generally" assign the cabin numbers for GTY (guarantee) cabins?  This is our first time doing a GTY cabin, which was originally booked in 2019 so I cannot remember what I was told or find the information.  Really just curious since my in-laws have a GTY cabin as well and will need sure they have a good feel for things before we set sail.  Thanks.

 

I fully expect things to be "different" due to the COVID situation, but looking for a general timeframe from the before times ?

 

 

 

Before MAR 2020, I kept a database (with lots of input from this fantastic board).  Below is the data (a small sample, but with some trends if you look at it).  My plan is to start up again (as soon as the sailing begin ... I should have said that louder ... AS SOON AS THE SAILINGS BEGIN! ... and they will).  A few observations:

1).  A few get assigned very far in advance.  These appear to be outliners (and the frequency may come down over time with more data).

2). Just over a month before there is an inflection point where almost half have their assignment set.

3). Almost all have been set 10-19 days before sailing.

4). All have been assigned by the time you board. ?

 

Stay Safe, Stay Apart, Stay Connected,

Curt from Canada

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11 minutes ago, AlmondFarmer said:

Nerd alert!
Seriously, thank you for sharing and your fourth observation is important.

I'm still laughing.  Thanks, I don't get a chance to do that lately.

It took me over 60 years to really understand my chosen profession (Engineering).  With that much training, "nerd" is now genetically encoded.

Curt from Canada

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24 minutes ago, Curt From Canada said:

Before MAR 2020, I kept a database (with lots of input from this fantastic board).  Below is the data (a small sample, but with some trends if you look at it).  My plan is to start up again (as soon as the sailing begin ... I should have said that louder ... AS SOON AS THE SAILINGS BEGIN! ... and they will).  A few observations:

1).  A few get assigned very far in advance.  These appear to be outliners (and the frequency may come down over time with more data).

2). Just over a month before there is an inflection point where almost half have their assignment set.

3). Almost all have been set 10-19 days before sailing.

4). All have been assigned by the time you board. ?

 

Stay Safe, Stay Apart, Stay Connected,

Curt from Canada

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Thanks!  I feel like we could be BFFs ?  The thing i say to my wife the most and the thing she hates to hear is "So, I made a spreadsheet to...."

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56 minutes ago, Reigert2008 said:

We're also on an Oasis class ship, so I personally don't think there is a bad room location.  

We have had an ocean view guarantee twice on Oasis-class ships. If I remember right we were allocated our cabins within a couple of days after making final payment. On both occasions we were allocated one of the forward-facing rooms at the very front of the ship. I really like the layout of those.

On the second occasion, SIL & BIL,  who were travelling with us, were allocated a room on deck 3, in the middle of the ship, so bear in mind that booking together doesn't mean you will necessarily get rooms together.

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The concept of the Royal Up! upgrade program has inserted a new dynamic into GTY that I'm not sure we've fully seen the impact of yet.

I once booked an Ocean View GTY on Anthem.  There are very few OV cabins on this class but lots of balconies.  Sure enough I received an Ocean View Balcony assignment.  

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8 minutes ago, Reigert2008 said:

@twangster i've been wondering if Royal Up would be offered.  We've never done it, but i bet that does help some GTY people get upgraded as other people move up to other categories.

Agreed but it could also shift the assignment date even closer to the sail date so they can optimize everything.

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Yea I was going to mention two things, Royal Up which Twangster has covered here and also mention travel agent/other group blocks.

Basically Royal is overselling certain categories (ocean view/ocean view balcony GTY) the folks who purchased will be offered upgrade opportunities to bid for a Royal Up!  into a junior suite for example and the bids work themselves through Royal's algorithm until things even out and everyone has a room.  I remember this discussion from a few other threads, thanks for keeping track of our experiences @Curt From Canada!!

Seems that less and less often are these upgrades are just given to priority or status heavy members, but instead must be paid for/bid on.  For all we love about RC we all know the experience is more and more about the approach some call nickel and diming, Royal would call up selling additional revenue from you after you've booked the cruise.  If it wasn't working they wouldn't keep at it, must be fairly effective. 

So as mentioned, the other thing I've learned is that there are almost always blocks of rooms that we cannot see booking directly through Royal's website.  Travel agents (and maybe Casino Royale or other programs too?) have blocks on most sailings that are released back to Royal if they aren't sold by a certain date ? - that's probably in this same 2-3 week window when most assignments happen.  So that's a big +1 for using an established TA as well.  I have booked GTY before when traveling with just my wife, I probably won't again, the savings weren't that great on our cruise but like everything your mileage may vary. 

I had been doing the research for next year with a larger group of family - looking for 6 rooms close to each other (in a row, across the hall, etc) and there was nothing across any sailing I could find for Feb or March 2022 sailing out of FL, then called a TA we had used for this group in the past, she found several options for blocks we could choose from across different floors of different ships on the main cruise we had settled on and also on different cruises.  We were originally on floor 14 all six cabins together, but then moved down to 9 to be on central park and more mid ship etc etc.  We had options.  So the rooms are out there, it's just about which route you want to use to find them (and how much you do or don't want to be staying near the people you're traveling with haha)

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I noticed something interesting to my on my Lift n Switch from last month.  We had a GTY balcony room booked for April 20, we lift and shifted to April 21 and when I received my email confirmation I noticed now that I had an assigned room.  Don't know if this was done accidentally or if its the norm for a L&S move?

Our experience with GTY rooms in the past has been positive.

 

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44 minutes ago, Snowchaser said:

I noticed something interesting to my on my Lift n Switch from last month.  We had a GTY balcony room booked for April 20, we lift and shifted to April 21 and when I received my email confirmation I noticed now that I had an assigned room.  Don't know if this was done accidentally or if its the norm for a L&S move?

Our experience with GTY rooms in the past has been positive.

 

We had that happen with our L&S from November 2020 to November 2021.  Our TA said it made her pick a room, so she did and then had Royal lower the price back to the GTY price since the L&S was price protected.

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