smokeybandit Posted August 20, 2021 Author Report Posted August 20, 2021 Do we dare suggest this policy was encouraged by RC as a way around the Florida rule? Neesa and danv3 2 Quote
JasonL Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 Well tonight I am feeling like giving up on cruising with my family for a couple years more. That hurts to say because we love it so much! I think I should cancel my November 21st cruise because I'm flying across the country from washington state and there are too many risks that we won't be able to sail. $2500 for airfare alone, hotel accomodations ect... What if my 5 or 10 year old gets covid? what if they change to not allow anyone unvaxxed? Variants.. Last minute restrictions .... Why stress myself out trying to go on vacation..... not worth it... Feeling defeated tonight PPPJJ-GCVAB, Neesa, Ogilthorpe and 4 others 1 6 Quote
dswallow Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, JasonL said: Well tonight I am feeling like giving up on cruising with my family for a couple years more. That hurts to say because we love it so much! I think I should cancel my November 21st cruise because I'm flying across the country from washington state and there are too many risks that we won't be able to sail. $2500 for airfare alone, hotel accomodations ect... What if my 5 or 10 year old gets covid? what if they change to not allow anyone unvaxxed? Variants.. Last minute restrictions .... Why stress myself out trying to go on vacation..... not worth it... Feeling defeated tonight Maybe the timing wasn't quite right, but you really should've done Alaska. Avoiding the flight and that commitment ends up putting the rest of it on pretty safe ground. If any of you tested positive before sailing, Royal would handle refunding everything, and you'd basically have been local anyway so no or at least far less exposure in airfare costs, too. I suppose warm vs cold might've entered into it, but there's just awesome things along Alaska's sailing route to do, too. Quote
bretts173 Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Bruce said: What if you have had covids ? You dont need to have the shots. Most doctors tell you not to get them. Most Doctors? I currently work in a hospital in Sydney so not a great expert but my brother is a Doctor working in University Hospital San Antonio. He reports twice as many re infections than vaccinated in ICU. Now consider how many people have had Covid against how many vaccinated. MOST of mine and his colleagues do not give the advice you are stating as truth. MrB, Poolside and CruisingfromClayton 3 Quote
Jill Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 16 hours ago, dswallow said: It would appear there are just 5 of 69 sailings departing before November 1 and not back in port before September 3 from Florida ports that don't visit a port in The Bahamas between September 3 and November 1. Odyssey, 10/23/2021, from Ft. Lauderdale, 8 Night Southern Caribbean Cruise | Royal Caribbean Cruises Serenade, 10/25/2021, from Tampa, 5 Night Western Caribbean Cruise | Royal Caribbean Cruises Serenade, 10/30/2021, from Tampa, 5 Night Western Caribbean Cruise | Royal Caribbean Cruises Symphony, 10/30/2021, from Miami, 7 Night Eastern Caribbean & Perfect Day | Royal Caribbean Cruises Odyssey, 10/31/2021, from Ft. Lauderdale, 6 Night Western Caribbean Cruise | Royal Caribbean Cruises There are 9 more sailings from Florida ports that aren't affected by this protocol change because they end before September 3. That Symphony on 10/30 goes to CocoCay and st thomas Quote
Jill Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Bruce said: What if you have had covids ? You dont need to have the shots. Most doctors tell you not to get them. I know 2 people (yes not a lot) that had Covid last year and got re-infected with Delta just recently. It can happen. Quote
dswallow Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 22 minutes ago, Jill said: That Symphony on 10/30 goes to CocoCay and st thomas True. But my post said it didn't visit The Bahamas during the affected time period in which the Bahamas requires ships visiting ports to have all passengers 12 and older be vaccinated. It visits CocoCay on 11/5. Quote
dswallow Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Bruce said: What if you have had covids ? You dont need to have the shots. Most doctors tell you not to get them. No, it's generally that you are told to wait a bit after recovery. CruisingfromClayton 1 Quote
smokeybandit Posted August 20, 2021 Author Report Posted August 20, 2021 "We don't know the answer, but we're recommending something anyway" has been an unfortunate trend in CDC guidance. atgood, Neesa, WAAAYTOOO and 1 other 4 Quote
Bob_KY Posted August 21, 2021 Report Posted August 21, 2021 Got a Royal Email about the updated Vax requirements. It had a click here to provide Vax Status. Royal IT does it again. We are vax'ed and have no issue declaring it. I start entering my data and got to my birthday. A calendar drop down appears. Since I wasn't born today, I had to scroll through 744 months to get to my date. Wow. No other way to get there. I wonder if they actually test their app/change prior to fielding it. Lovetocruise2002, DDaley, jticarruthers and 4 others 1 3 2 1 Quote
DanielB Posted August 21, 2021 Report Posted August 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Bob_KY said: Got a Royal Email about the updated Vax requirements. It had a click here to provide Vax Status. Royal IT does it again. We are vax'ed and have no issue declaring it. I start entering my data and got to my birthday. A calendar drop down appears. Since I wasn't born today, I had to scroll through 744 months to get to my date. Wow. No other way to get there. I wonder if they actually test their app/change prior to fielding it. Or you could just type in the date and it changed. At least that is how it worked for me, if you used the calendar then yes you would have to go through each month. Bob_KY 1 Quote
twangster Posted August 21, 2021 Report Posted August 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, DanielB said: Or you could just type in the date and it changed. At least that is how it worked for me, if you used the calendar then yes you would have to go through each month. Varies by platform. On mobile you can't enter a specific date but at least on Apple devices you can give the year a big flick like you are spinning a wheel and get back a few decades pretty quickly. Snotarni 1 Quote
SpeedNoodles Posted August 21, 2021 Report Posted August 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Bob_KY said: I start entering my data and got to my birthday. A calendar drop down appears. Since I wasn't born today, I had to scroll through 744 months to get to my date. Wow. No other way to get there. I wonder if they actually test their app/change prior to fielding it. I thought that I'd have to do this, too. Then I figured out that if I just clicked on the YEAR at the top (not the month or the date, just the year), it would change the year. Then I only had a few months to click through. Sorry you ended up going through all of that. Bob_KY 1 Quote
Bob_KY Posted August 21, 2021 Report Posted August 21, 2021 4 hours ago, DanielB said: Or you could just type in the date and it changed. At least that is how it worked for me, if you used the calendar then yes you would have to go through each month. Tried that. Is it an android thing versus Apple? Quote
Bob_KY Posted August 21, 2021 Report Posted August 21, 2021 I will retire my posts, and say.... WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote
SpeedNoodles Posted August 21, 2021 Report Posted August 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, Bob_KY said: Tried that. Is it an android thing versus Apple? I was using Android, yes. I totally forgot there was an Apple world Bob_KY 1 Quote
JasonL Posted August 22, 2021 Report Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 8:55 PM, dswallow said: Maybe the timing wasn't quite right, but you really should've done Alaska. Avoiding the flight and that commitment ends up putting the rest of it on pretty safe ground. If any of you tested positive before sailing, Royal would handle refunding everything, and you'd basically have been local anyway so no or at least far less exposure in airfare costs, too. I suppose warm vs cold might've entered into it, but there's just awesome things along Alaska's sailing route to do, too. This has been in the works for years, as we booked it as soon as they went on sale. The wife and I are doing alaska in June, we will go on this sailing. Although we could bring the kids to Alaska, it's far less exciting to them than Coco Cay. Besides it's the policy changes and the uncertain ones to come that make cruising WITH KIDS very hard to plan. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote
CruiseRoyalDad Posted August 24, 2021 Report Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 12:41 PM, dswallow said: No, it's generally that you are told to wait a bit after recovery. This would all be great if the CDC were still a credible organization. WAAAYTOOO and jticarruthers 2 Quote
dswallow Posted August 24, 2021 Report Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, CruiseRoyalDad said: This would all be great if the CDC were still a credible organization. Just because you're clueless and/or inconsistent about one thing doesn't mean you're not an expert at others. joshgates and BeachGal 2 Quote
cruisellama Posted August 24, 2021 Report Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 9:29 PM, JasonL said: Well tonight I am feeling like giving up on cruising with my family for a couple years more. That hurts to say because we love it so much! I think I should cancel my November 21st cruise because I'm flying across the country from washington state and there are too many risks that we won't be able to sail. $2500 for airfare alone, hotel accomodations ect... What if my 5 or 10 year old gets covid? what if they change to not allow anyone unvaxxed? Variants.. Last minute restrictions .... Why stress myself out trying to go on vacation..... not worth it... Feeling defeated tonight I know of others with the same angst. It's a great family vacation, but with the ever shifting requirements, and continued test requirements, a trip with the kiddos has a lot of new failure modes to tamp down (many outside your control). We figured we can't re- start bringing the grandkids until '23. Just too much of a hassle. Neesa 1 Quote
LonB Posted August 25, 2021 Report Posted August 25, 2021 I'm sailing in three weeks. And I just got my booster. Happy to get a test the Friday before I sail and to know that everyone, who can, will be vaxxed. Quote
JeffB Posted August 25, 2021 Report Posted August 25, 2021 4 hours ago, cruisellama said: a trip with the kiddos has a lot of new failure modes to tamp down (many outside your control). I'm in general agreement with you @cruisellama. OTH, one should be cognizant of the exceedingly low risk of an unvaccinated child under 12 becoming infected with SARS2 and subsequently testing positive on an antigen test. I posted elsewhere that the calculated risk of that happening is quite low. This is especially true if you follow the most basic mitigation measures. It is certainly a personal risk/benefit assessment. Also keep in mind that RCL has gone to great lengths to protect your financial interests with various protocols to do that should you be unable to bard secondary to a positive COVID test. You could be putting airfare and accommodations at risk. Either insure that risk with an appropriate travel insurance policy or buy refundable air. cruisellama 1 Quote
BrianB Posted August 25, 2021 Report Posted August 25, 2021 8 hours ago, JeffB said: Also keep in mind that RCL has gone to great lengths to protect your financial interests with various protocols to do that should you be unable to bard secondary to a positive COVID test. You could be putting airfare and accommodations at risk. Either insure that risk with an appropriate travel insurance policy or buy refundable air. I agree. I believe travel insurance is one of the most important things to have if you are traveling, especially during a pandemic. A good, solid policy with expanded medical and repatriation coverage along with a Covid-specific endorsement. cruisellama 1 Quote
jticarruthers Posted August 25, 2021 Report Posted August 25, 2021 15 hours ago, dswallow said: Just because you're clueless and/or inconsistent about one thing doesn't mean you're not an expert at others. But without credibility it doesnt matter what you are actually an expert at. fireclan 1 Quote
Ban-One Posted August 29, 2021 Report Posted August 29, 2021 Hi "smokeybandit", off topic, but myself as "Ban-One" I feel obliged to point out that I like your username Quote
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