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Yes I would wear a mask if I had to. My wife and I are both fully vaccinated, and are enjoying being maskless around other vaccinated people (allowed by the CDC). I'm a little confused as to why masks are required if everyone has a vaccine. Perhaps it's because the under-16s are not.

The big issue for me is not being allowed off the ship on our own. That's a deal-breaker for me. Excursions are fun, but I don't want to be required to go on one. That said, we currently have five cruises booked, the earliest is this fall. God willing, we'll actually be able to go.

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One unvaccinated person infected on a ship will blow up in the media and end up costing cruise lines hundreds of millions should the CDC step back in and declare them closed again.  Just the bad press

This latest CDC guidance that it's safe to walk around outside and take a bike ride without wearing a mask gives me a lot of confidence that I made the right decisions to do both actions many months a

I have to admit, the thought of watching an unvaccinated getting busted in a cruise terminal with a fake card is oddly appealing to me.  Too late to use Cruise With Confidence.  You literally lose the

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22 hours ago, Craig 01020 said:

Y I'm a little confused as to why masks are required if everyone has a vaccine. Perhaps it's because the under-16s are not.

That is one reason, the other reason is because no vaccine has 100% efficacy.  95% efficacy does substantially cut down your risk of contracting the virus...but there is always that 5%.

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IMO, people who love cruising will do whatever is necessary to cruise again, ESPECIALLY without masks.  At least for the time being, proof of vaccinations AND a recent negative test should be required for all passengers and crew.  Then no masks should be needed.  A small price to pay so that everyone can enjoy their cruise as before.  You can’t please everyone.  Those who opt out will simply have to wait a bit longer to book a cruise.  There are plenty of people willing to comply to fill your ships.  TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION:  If both vaccination AND masks are required, this to me is too much of an intrusion on the cruise experience, and I will wait to cruise.  #1. This seems like overkill, and #2. I am hard of hearing and need to lip read somewhat to understand people and socialize in a noisy cruise environment.  

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P.S. It’s important to remind people that vaccinations don’t 100% prevent Covid.  HOWEVER, of the 5% that may still contract it, #1. your viral load will be significantly reduced, thereby significantly reducing the likelihood that you will give it to someone else, and #2. you are much less likely to become severely ill and require hospitalization yourself.  That being the case, if everyone onboard is vaccinated, then even if someone does contract Covid while onboard, this should not result in an “outbreak” or be any more cause for concern than someone coming down with the flu.  The CDC should confirm this, and be an important distinction from the Covid of the past.  What’s most important to me is that the cruise lines make sure there are no loopholes whereby passengers can come onboard without proof of vaccination (such as forged vaccination cards or test results), and that non-compliance to onboard rules are strictly enforced.  As I’m sure you are aware, the PR effect of just one severe illness from an “outbreak” could be extremely detrimental to the industry, and affects ALL of us, cruise lines and cruise passengers alike.  

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I think I would be okay if both a vaccine and mask were required to cruise. As long as most of the regular cruise options are available, I would be okay. If there are no shows, limited entertainment, and the relaxing elements are changed then it makes it less worth it.  Especially if you are paying for sky class or higher. They can serve my buffet and limit capacity but not my fun.

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I will absolutely cruise with other vaccinated people (and not go on a cruise with unvaccinated people), but a mask would be a deal breaker. I love cruising and the whole thing about mask wearing, social distancing, and limited onboard experiences doesn't sound like something I want to be a part of. It wouldn't really feel like a vacation given we are constantly wearing this thing on our face and the thought of not being around others on a ship is kinda weird, ruins the cruise experience IMO. Definitely willing to wait as long as possible until those restrictions are gone.

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From Royal Caribbean's website:

If a certain threshold level of COVID-19 is detected onboard the ship during your voyage, the voyage will end immediately, the ship will return to the port of embarkation, and your subsequent travel, including your return home, may be restricted or delayed.

A vaccine mandate is a good thing. It significantly reduces the likelihood of an outbreak.

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I'd say there's no wrong answer here. For some (like me) the compromises will likely outweigh the fun and joy of cruising for a "normal"-ish cruise with ports of call. But if it's an "out and back" to Coco Key or Labadee, I'd be far more likely go because I don't think I'd have the feeling of "missing out". 

 

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11 hours ago, Ampurp85 said:

I think I would be okay if both a vaccine and mask were required to cruise. As long as most of the regular cruise options are available, I would be okay. If there are no shows, limited entertainment, and the relaxing elements are changed then it makes it less worth it.  Especially if you are paying for sky class or higher. They can serve my buffet and limit capacity but not my fun.

You summed it up better than I could. If the things that make cruising such an attractive vacation option are removed or reduced, is it worth it? 

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On 3/31/2021 at 6:08 PM, emmef said:

other reason is because no vaccine has 100% efficacy.  95% efficacy does substantially cut down your risk of contracting the virus...but there is always that 5%.

Makes no sense.  So you think we should wear a mask for the rest of our lives.  Nothing is 100%.  People are just running scared.

 

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1 hour ago, PaulRC said:

Makes no sense.  So you think we should wear a mask for the rest of our lives.  Nothing is 100%.  People are just running scared.

 

Yeah I don't think wearing a mask forever makes sense. Viruses are here to stay, masks aren't. Covid will become an annual shot just like the flu shot etc that people get, it just caught humanity totally offguard and humanity failed at controlling it hence the 2+ million deaths worldwide and counting. My thought around vaccines is, yeah I want to get it, but what's the point of being vaccinated if we have to still wear masks? Does the vaccine not work like we expect it to or do we just not know about the long-term impacts it has in actually preventing Covid transmission? Those who choose to not get vaccinated or cannot get vaccinated understand the risks that they are facing if they get Covid. I want to go on a cruise as bad as the next person but I also understand that if I am paying thousands and thousands of dollars, I don't want to be restricted from actually enjoying the vacation. Regardless of what happens on a cruise ship, masks or not, I am definitely wearing one on an airplane. Airplanes are gross IMO, cruise ships are not, IMO. It's too bad the cruise industry has such a bad rep and only those who are passionate about it truly understand how safe and clean it actually is. I have been on 12 cruises, and have gotten sick on 0. I have taken land vacations and I have gotten sick multiple times since the hygiene process on land is no where as strict and enforced/recommended like it is on cruise ships. Get me back at sea, but please get rid of the masks and social distancing if we are all fully vaccinated.

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I'll weigh in here on masks although I'm just not hard over on these like some are and that's fine, not criticizing but, you did hit one nail on the head. The science is not yet certain that vaccines prevent transmission. The evidence is mixed but generally says, yes it does. It also says that there is not sufficient evidence that you cannot get re-infected after receiving the vaccine. Evidence does indicate that if you do get re infected, the viral load you will have is low making transmission much less likely. This is speculative at this point.

Masks just add one more layer of mitigation measures that are proven to be effective and, yes, masks tend to mitigate all the uncertainty. There is no question, none, despite what you can find on social media or from quackery, that properly designed and fitted masks prevent transmission of viruses that transmit via airborne mode including SARS-2 - the right one's of course. That's another subject.

In my onw case, I've gotten so used to putting them on when I enter a venue that requires them, I don't mind anymore. It's become habit. I have to admit, I have a set of masks in my man-bag that aren't exactly the best but they are comfortable and easy to get off and on. Virtue signaling? Probably. OTH, I am scrupulous about wearing a properly fitting surgical mask in airports and on airplanes and that will continue even as the pandemic fades.  

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5 hours ago, Marlena said:

Very pro vaccinated cruises!

As for masks, can survive walking around / to dinner. But I will not wear one in the pool deck watching my daughter swim etc. Just doesn't seem like something I would enjoy and especially not something I want to pay $$$$ to do.

In new reports the CDC mention that after 1st dose it reduces the risk by 80% and that after 2nd dose the risk involved is reduced by 90% ..so in other words there is still a 10% risk of transmitting virus to someone else. 

The risk involved to children is apparently a lot less however children are not immune for virus and as reported in Feb this year the figure for child mortality in US due to covid is round about 250...

So as a parent or grandparent whats more important your childs saftey or your comfort? 

Theres no debate to this and anyone who tries to justify putting their or anyone else's children at risk doesnt .......will stop here as i would probably be banned for what i really want to say 

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6 hours ago, Ray said:

 

The risk involved to children is apparently a lot less however children are not immune for virus and as reported in Feb this year the figure for child mortality in US due to covid is round about 250...

 

There have been 246 deaths among those aged 0-17 in the last 13 months, with many of those kids having some underlying condition.  The flu kills more than that in a single 6 month flu season. 

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Me too!  Just turned 41 on March 1st, got vaccinated this past week and look forward to booking ODYSSEY OF THE SEAS soon for Nov or Dec out of Port Everglades! 😎

On 4/2/2021 at 9:35 PM, cruisellama said:

We got the vaccine so we could travel.  For early cruising, I would put up with the mask.  

 

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On 4/3/2021 at 1:58 PM, PaulRC said:

Makes no sense.  So you think we should wear a mask for the rest of our lives.  Nothing is 100%.  People are just running scared.

 

I'm not saying that at all. I am just saying that is one of the reasons why companies and some people believe we should still be wearing masks.  I would happily go without a mask, as I have had covid and have antibodies, however some are uncomfortable with risk (I am not one of them).  

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I don't see it as running scared; that's somewhat inflammatory phrasing. It makes sense to require masks as a precaution until we have more data and confirmed studies. Better to err on the side of caution with fewer sick as a result rather than erring on the side of recklessness with more sick. They are working on the data and there are already some really promising preliminary conclusions.

I'm optimistic it won't always be needed but until then, I appreciate Royal Caribbean's strict mask policies because it makes it clear they care about the health of guests and employees above all. I already loved them and the way they've handled things during the pandemic makes me even more confident in them long-term. 

I'm scheduled on a cruise for 22 October and I wouldn't have booked it without the strict vaccination and mask requirements.

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