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7 hours ago, Cruiseallday said:

I get my Covid 19 Vaccine on Wednesday. I feel cautiously optimistic about cruising starting up in the 2nd quarter of next year. At least a few ships at least. It looks like by April anybody in the general public should be able to receive the vaccine. Lets just keep our fingers crossed! 

I'm curious, how were you notified about receiving the vaccine? Again, just curious as I don't expect it to be offered till spring and wondering how you get notified. Thanks for the help. 

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I am a Firefighter/EMT and I was notified by my county Health department by email. I had to register and fill out a health questionnaire. Once you complete that process they let me choose the time and date that I would like to get the Vaccine. The time frame only went out a few days because of the Holiday's so I choose my next day off which is tomorrow to get the Vaccine. I know plenty of others that have received it and so far no issues. 

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26 minutes ago, Cruiseallday said:

I am a Firefighter/EMT and I was notified by my county Health department by email. I had to register and fill out a health questionnaire. Once you complete that process they let me choose the time and date that I would like to get the Vaccine. The time frame only went out a few days because of the Holiday's so I choose my next day off which is tomorrow to get the Vaccine. I know plenty of others that have received it and so far no issues. 

Awesome, that's interesting and exactly the info I was looking for. 

I'm an essential employee myself, not as important as an EMT though of course but my job is essential. They mentioned something about getting us vaccinated but that was a few weeks ago and haven't heard a thing since. I'll wait my turn as it much more important for others to receive their vaccination first. 

My timeline that I'm hoping for is 2nd shot by June, first in May and second June. I'm reading it might be earlier now. 

Good luck to you. Please tell us how your experience good, any side effects. Thank you again for the info. 

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On 12/28/2020 at 2:42 PM, Cruiseallday said:

I get my Covid 19 Vaccine on Wednesday. I feel cautiously optimistic about cruising starting up in the 2nd quarter of next year. At least a few ships at least. It looks like by April anybody in the general public should be able to receive the vaccine. Lets just keep our fingers crossed! 

Cant imagine that will happen...by April...I am wary about November at this point....we have been told in Canada that vaccine does NOT mean relaxed travel or social distancing.....status quo till at least end of summer it appears....better luck to my American friends and sailors!

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6 minutes ago, monctonguy said:

Cant imagine that will happen...by April...I am wary about November at this point....we have been told in Canada that vaccine does mean relaxed travel or social distancing.....status quo till at least end of summer it appears....better luck to my American friends and sailors!

I don't know about you but I kinda feel the feeling from the cruise lines they don't expect to sail till 2022. I'm not a conspiracy guy but they raised enough money to last till summer 2022. Would they raised that much money if they didn't need it? It's almost like they know or pretty much know they won't be sailing anytime soon. Our August Oasis cruise may even be in jeopardy, who knows. 

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Yeah..and my quote should say we are NOT getting rules relaxed till the fall..and thats assuming it all works out perfect and no issues or problems in the next 8 months......thats alot of "ifs".......

 

We were looking at a September cruise but not at this point..way too much uncertainty  and IF'S.....even the November one I think is iffy..I give it a 75% chance at this point...a Sept cruise would be 50/50...anything sooner isn't worth the risk, worry and $$ being tied up!

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I've been doing some reading on the 1918 Pandemic.  Four waves and close to three years with around a third of the world's population infected.

The Spanish Flu pandemic came to an end though, and so will the Covid-19 pandemic.  When you feel things are hopeless, remember this...it will end.

To plagiarize Winston Churchill.....perhaps the vaccine is the end of the beginning.

We all will cruise again.

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It make no sense that they would not cruise till 2022.  If the vaccine works and they claim that by June any American who wants it can have it.  I do not know what any other country is saying but for now I will limit it to the US.  If it does work then why would everything including the cruise lines not be 100% shortly after if not before? 

 

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19 minutes ago, PaulRC said:

It make no sense that they would not cruise till 2022.  If the vaccine works and they claim that by June any American who wants it can have it.  I do not know what any other country is saying but for now I will limit it to the US.  If it does work then why would everything including the cruise lines not be 100% shortly after if not before? 

 

Does it work?...you can still get it and spread it even with the vaccine..so while not a scientist, in layman terms...that would be that it doesn't work.  I mean, you cant have it both ways...and that's just factual.

 

SO.....you got the vaccine..but you can still catch it and spread it to others all over the cruise ship........yeah, cruising isn't coming back with that kinda vaccine.

 

On top of that...you know there will be delays, issues, compilations along the way..Biden has told the US that the darkest days are ahead.......and once Royal does start up cruising on a very limited and testing basis for a couple months...and then you have to hope there are no outbreaks or problems on those cruises.......so 2022 before "normal" cruising is certainly quite possible and likely at this point!.....

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6 minutes ago, PaulRC said:

I have not heard of this.  Is this just speculation?  Where did you read this?  If that is the case it is not a real vaccine is it?

Here's a link to an FDA FAQ page. Not a great deal of certainty on many topics.

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-frequently-asked-questions

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7 minutes ago, PaulRC said:

I have not heard of this.  Is this just speculation?  Where did you read this?  If that is the case it is not a real vaccine is it?

Here in Canada we are told this every day.....and its the same vaccine we are using....

 

I am hoping its all wrong too..but I dont think so....come back and visit this post in a year and we can see...

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1 hour ago, monctonguy said:

Here in Canada we are told this every day.....and its the same vaccine we are using....

 

I am hoping its all wrong too..but I dont think so....come back and visit this post in a year and we can see...

Well, they should not be saying you can still spread it because that hasn't been established yet.  Normally, longer vaccine trials would have reported this information but the emergency approval process meant that so far the vaccines have only been shown to be safe enough and effective enough for the recipient.  Until there is evidence one way or the other, we have to assume we can still spread the virus and behave accordingly.  That's what should be reported right now.

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1 hour ago, PaulRC said:

It make no sense that they would not cruise till 2022.  If the vaccine works and they claim that by June any American who wants it can have it.  I do not know what any other country is saying but for now I will limit it to the US.  If it does work then why would everything including the cruise lines not be 100% shortly after if not before? 

 

Your logic is sound.  The "by the end of June" timing will be difficult, but plus or minus a month or two is very likely.  Certainly Vaccine "Passports" would speed the process of restarting cruising in a significant way.  A few random thoughts:

1) The US is way ahead of the rest of the world in vaccine procurement.  Canada may have more doses per capita, however, we are nowhere near the front of the line.  Canada's target is "everyone who wants one by the end of September" (which is a politicians way of saying we do not have 2 doses for everyone by then).  Still, that is good enough for me to roll up my sleeve, get the vaccine and start packing for a November 2021 cruise.

2) Vaccines dramatically reduce the chances of falling ill to COVID 19, for those who are vaccinated.  It also reduces the chance of serious illness if the desired immune response is not achieved.  However, there is a "70% to 85%" estimate of vaccination level required.  I am afraid there are too many skeptics or people who are too afraid to get the vaccine in US or Canada to achieve that level in 2021. 

3) There is also much more study required to determine how much the vaccine reduces the chance of a vaccinated person transmitting COVID 19 (there does not seem to be any solid science on this yet).  The vaccine trains our bodies to defend themselves against the "invader", but does not transfer that ability to those not vaccinated.

4) I think "100% cruising" might be the biggest issue.  Due to points 2) & 3) above, the ramp up might be slower than we would like.  To ramp up there will still be many protocols in place (physical distancing and masking ... reduced requirements, but something still required).  These are not easy to do, and are costly.  Still, I will be packing for that November 2021 cruise in September of 2021. ?

Stay Safe, Stay Apart, Stay Connected,

Curt from Canada

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I think that cruising in 2021 is optimistic. The administration had no plan to roll out the vaccine in the US. They will not achieve targets by end of the 1st quarter. The holiday surge will set the country even farther behind. 
 

before they can roll out the vaccines, they need the equipment needed to dose the vaccine , PPEs and a way to transport it to remote areas where there are no CVS and Walgreens. Federal government had no plan. Not being political, just stating the fact that we will not be safe until 2022 at the earliest. 

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@twangster I will agree with you, with a build (or few):

1).  The mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) were the quickest to "build" and test.  There are many more vaccine candidates in the pipeline.  The next ones are the ones that are of a more traditional nature.  They should be fairly efficacious as well.

2).  @SteelersNationVA has a good point.  Vaccines in a vial do no good without needles, health care professionals, and a plan to get them where they are needed. Getting the right vials, needles and "medical warriors" in the right places at the right time is a challenge.  Still, plus or minus 2 months, there could be wide adoption (vaccine "reluctance" will still be the biggest issue).

3). I am very reassured that both the USA and Canada have military professionals leading the logistics.  I have already seen both admit mistakes and commit to doing better.  Very, very refreshing.  

4).  I am still planning on packing for my November 2021 cruise in September 2021. ?

 

Curt from Canada

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