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I really think it's foolish to cancel sailings which are 5+ months away. You never know what could happen. I thought back in May/June that it would be several months until I got my life back since things were moving so slowly in Scotland but by the end of July and into August, I've pretty much got my full life back.

I also think that the situation in the USA shouldn't dictate what happens in the rest of the world - could Royal not try cruises in Europe, Asia or even Australia? Some income and ships going is better than none. Definitely way safer to cruise from any European port than it is to cruise from the US at the moment but most companies seem to interpret CDC rules as worldwide when they only apply to sailings from the USA.

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Disappointing to see as Joe01 noted at this point I am just about back to living my life as normal, if it was up to me i wouldnt need to see anything different from the cruise lines to sail now than they always used to do.

With that said i gave up on trying to find cruises "close in" to rebook to. If they do start to sail soon I might do a last minute but my closest current booking is now at May 2021 and with the way this garbage is dragging on I wouldnt be surprised if that gets cancelled eventually too.

 

 

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1 hour ago, princevaliantus said:

Disagree with you.. Princess canceled their around the world sailings.. Of course they did how could they control the amount of ports they were going to. That has NOTHING to do with Royal being able to operate some cruises to the Caribbean. I am not saying Royal will be able to operate fully and go everywhere but I do believe they will be able to go to the Caribbean.. And Cunard another specialty line I don't consider what they do to have any effect on what Royal does.. This article doesn't scare me at all.. I do believe at some point in 2021 Royal will be sailing the Caribbean and the Bahamas.. 

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15 minutes ago, AGSLC5 said:

Disagree with you.. Princess canceled their around the world sailings.. Of course they did how could they control the amount of ports they were going to. That has NOTHING to do with Royal being able to operate some cruises to the Caribbean. I am not saying Royal will be able to operate fully and go everywhere but I do believe they will be able to go to the Caribbean.. And Cunard another specialty line I don't consider what they do to have any effect on what Royal does.. This article doesn't scare me at all.. I do believe at some point in 2021 Royal will be sailing the Caribbean and the Bahamas.. 

There is nothing to disagree with as I neither wrote the article nor did I state that Princess cancelled all their sailing. I just stated the writing was on the wall in reference that we all knew ports of calls access would be an issue, which is what Princess Cruises has stated in the article, and I quote, “due to limitations with border and port access.”. RCCL will be sailing, most likely, shorter cruises and since RCCL has private island(s), that is the saving grace under the Passenger Vessel Services Act of 1886, insofar, if ports do not open, RCCL still will have the capability to cruise if the Caribbean ports do not open at some point.

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44 minutes ago, Joe01 said:

I really think it's foolish to cancel sailings which are 5+ months away. You never know what could happen. I thought back in May/June that it would be several months until I got my life back since things were moving so slowly in Scotland but by the end of July and into August, I've pretty much got my full life back.

I also think that the situation in the USA shouldn't dictate what happens in the rest of the world - could Royal not try cruises in Europe, Asia or even Australia? Some income and ships going is better than none. Definitely way safer to cruise from any European port than it is to cruise from the US at the moment but most companies seem to interpret CDC rules as worldwide when they only apply to sailings from the USA.

Yup!! Agree 100%!

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I don't even see why cruise lines are being so unfairly targeted when several flights are taking off and landing every day. I also use trains very frequently, also quite risky , especially since they are getting busier now.

If anything, cruise ships were definitely very ahead of their time with the handwashing stations. That was never a common thing on land, and indeed, probably should have been. There was a study carried out finding out that many McDonalds touchscreens were absolutely filthy. Definitely a huge risk to the public. Not the case on a ship.

I imagine that the hand washing stations will become commonplace in the future post COVID but it's by no means a new idea.

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1 hour ago, princevaliantus said:

There is nothing to disagree with as I neither wrote the article nor did I state that Princess cancelled all their sailing. I just stated the writing was on the wall in reference that we all knew ports of calls access would be an issue, which is what Princess Cruises has stated in the article, and I quote, “due to limitations with border and port access.”. RCCL will be sailing, most likely, shorter cruises and since RCCL has private island(s), that is the saving grace under the Passenger Vessel Services Act of 1886, insofar, if ports do not open, RCCL still will have the capability to cruise if the Caribbean ports do not open at some point.

I disagree with you saying the writing is on the wall.. I don't believe that article proves the writing is on the wall for Royal Caribbean.. All I was trying to say.

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3 hours ago, princevaliantus said:

Is there a start date for port to open up ???

Nothing yet...but our medical chief officer has stated 2-3 years to expect shut down and restrictions…..some of our provinces have had ZERO deaths and ZERO hospitalizations or like 2 ppl and we still cant do anything.....I predict a huge spike this winter in Canada which will push us back another year or two....it appears the US is getting ahead of us now when it comes to testing and equipment and vaccine trials.....

 

But yeah, if I was a betting man I would  defn say 2021 is a write off...I thinking 2022 before they start to allow Canadians to travel and tourists to come here....and that's based on todays cases...a 2nd wave will shoot that to hell.

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8 minutes ago, monctonguy said:

Nothing yet...but our medical chief officer has stated 2-3 years to expect shut down and restrictions…..some of our provinces have had ZERO deaths and ZERO hospitalizations or like 2 ppl and we still cant do anything.....I predict a huge spike this winter in Canada which will push us back another year or two....it appears the US is getting ahead of us now when it comes to testing and equipment and vaccine trials.....

 

But yeah, if I was a betting man I would  defn say 2021 is a write off...I thinking 2022 before they start to allow Canadians to travel and tourists to come here....and that's based on todays cases...a 2nd wave will shoot that to hell.

There goes the 15 nite I had booked for Oct. 2021...time to start searching.

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3 minutes ago, princevaliantus said:

There goes the 15 nite I had booked for Oct. 2021...time to start searching.

Dont want to ruin it for you..but if they wont let dying people see a family member...they aren't letting 3000 tourists off to explore the waterfront...they have just started now making masks mandatory in some provinces where they have ZERO active cases...so yeah...dont count on Canada for vacation plans any time soon!

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4 hours ago, Joe01 said:

I don't even see why cruise lines are being so unfairly targeted when several flights are taking off and landing every day. I also use trains very frequently, also quite risky , especially since they are getting busier now.

If anything, cruise ships were definitely very ahead of their time with the handwashing stations. That was never a common thing on land, and indeed, probably should have been. There was a study carried out finding out that many McDonalds touchscreens were absolutely filthy. Definitely a huge risk to the public. Not the case on a ship.

I imagine that the hand washing stations will become commonplace in the future post COVID but it's by no means a new idea.

Could it be because air travel is a necessity for most people whereas cruising is a luxury?

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2 hours ago, monctonguy said:

Dont want to ruin it for you..but if they wont let dying people see a family member...they aren't letting 3000 tourists off to explore the waterfront...they have just started now making masks mandatory in some provinces where they have ZERO active cases...so yeah...dont count on Canada for vacation plans any time soon!

How is anyone going to cruise to Alaska from the US? Dang Canadians! 😉 Actually it’s our stupid law requiring a foreign port. 😡 Not sure I should get my hopes up for a 2022 Alaska. 

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3 hours ago, Jill said:

How is anyone going to cruise to Alaska from the US? Dang Canadians! 😉 Actually it’s our stupid law requiring a foreign port. 😡 Not sure I should get my hopes up for a 2022 Alaska. 

If Canada allows ships one can simply embark out of Vancouver BC my home port. 

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21 hours ago, Joe01 said:

I really think it's foolish to cancel sailings which are 5+ months away. You never know what could happen. I thought back in May/June that it would be several months until I got my life back since things were moving so slowly in Scotland but by the end of July and into August, I've pretty much got my full life back.

I also think that the situation in the USA shouldn't dictate what happens in the rest of the world - could Royal not try cruises in Europe, Asia or even Australia? Some income and ships going is better than none. Definitely way safer to cruise from any European port than it is to cruise from the US at the moment but most companies seem to interpret CDC rules as worldwide when they only apply to sailings from the USA.

Good morning Joe. Regarding about being safer in Europe vs. US... Not sure I completely agree... but I can only speak from what I see and read/hear in the US. I would say honestly its all optics motivated by the hyper elevated political environment we all live in, advanced by a media that will do all it can to get clicks, views, and likes.... along with an upcoming election here in the states. Basically.... the news will hype anything to get attention. I say all this, along with the anecdotal stuff I have heard... Personally, yes I have heard of people dying in my neighborhood from covid, but each one was already in poor health. I've also heard of people that got hit head on in a car crash... and they were added to the covid death numbers. Also talked to people at my place of business that have tested positive along with their kids, and they said they literally never felt a single symptom at all. So, while I am sure each persons view and experience is different... I just think with all the conflicting information (right or wrong, true or misleading) makes it extremely difficult for everyone to make good decisions. 

With allllllllll that being said..... Dang I wish we could cruise!

Personally, as soon as it sounds like they are starting back up.... I'm going to call my TA and say.... 'SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!" 😉

Take care everyone. 

~Cheers  

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On 8/26/2020 at 2:58 PM, Jill said:

How is anyone going to cruise to Alaska from the US? Dang Canadians! 😉 Actually it’s our stupid law requiring a foreign port. 😡 Not sure I should get my hopes up for a 2022 Alaska. 

You'll be able to sail out of Seattle (cue the riot/protest jokes and video clips) to visit Alaska if Canada isn't available.

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On 8/26/2020 at 6:23 AM, princevaliantus said:

Cunard also pushed start to end of March '21.    Need some ports to open to enable operational restart.   Several chickens and several eggs trying to figure out who comes out first.  o

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2 hours ago, JimnKathy said:

You'll be able to sail out of Seattle (cue the riot/protest jokes and video clips) to visit Alaska if Canada isn't available.

Vancouver is also a major embarkation port for Alaska, not just Seattle. In fact Vancouver has a different cruise clientele than Seattle does, and I've done both. My impression was that Seattle had a lot of walkers especially on certain non-family lines where getting around on the ship itself is like dealing with rush hour traffic..., and Vancouver seems to have a lot of overseas locals who were active and walking around a non-family line is a breeze. Done Seattle 2x.

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On 8/27/2020 at 11:47 AM, vanelli56 said:

Good morning Joe. Regarding about being safer in Europe vs. US... Not sure I completely agree... but I can only speak from what I see and read/hear in the US. I would say honestly its all optics motivated by the hyper elevated political environment we all live in, advanced by a media that will do all it can to get clicks, views, and likes.... along with an upcoming election here in the states. Basically.... the news will hype anything to get attention. I say all this, along with the anecdotal stuff I have heard... Personally, yes I have heard of people dying in my neighborhood from covid, but each one was already in poor health. I've also heard of people that got hit head on in a car crash... and they were added to the covid death numbers. Also talked to people at my place of business that have tested positive along with their kids, and they said they literally never felt a single symptom at all. So, while I am sure each persons view and experience is different... I just think with all the conflicting information (right or wrong, true or misleading) makes it extremely difficult for everyone to make good decisions. 

It's the exact same in the UK - our media is crazy, full of scaremongering headlines and our government also fudged the death figures - those who had tested positive for COVID at any point and had died of other things (including as a result of being run over by a car) were listed as COVID death figures. The US isn't alone in that regard, however fact remains that deaths are much lower over here - I live in Scotland where we've had 2 deaths in the last 6 weeks.

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12 hours ago, JimnKathy said:

You'll be able to sail out of Seattle (cue the riot/protest jokes and video clips) to visit Alaska if Canada isn't available.

The trip out of Seattle requires a stop at a foreign port (Jones Act), so Victoria is included as a stop on those itineraries. No Canadian port = no Alaska cruises under current regulations.

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