princevaliantus Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 For those who think you can be disrespectful to ANYONE including cruise staff on a ship, see the article below: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Man-Kicked-Off-Cruise-Says-He-Couldnt-Fight-Captains-Decision-511239011.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_MIBrand&fbclid=IwAR1PRiMg_Nv0Nqn2wJgUZ57wct-Wztj2aBOE4TpBtmZLNF2G7C-31C-l9zc Tough and very expensive lesson learned!! Fuzzywuzzy, Baked Alaska and Jjohnb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos A. Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Just Saw the video. I think that or NCL blowed the situation out of proportion or this man isn't telling the whole story. A simple argument doesn't seem to be enough to get you kicked out of the ship. cruiselife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted June 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, carlosalonsor said: Just Saw the video. I think that or NCL blowed the situation out of proportion or this man isn't telling the whole story. A simple argument doesn't seem to be enough to get you kicked out of the ship. I agree to a point after viewing the video as the man in question is demonstrating aggressive behavior in the video. I don't see an ounce of humility on his behalf. Just a chip on his shoulder. Baked Alaska, 4ensic, Jjohnb and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 I have been on many cruises and have seen many people that could have been kicked off and weren't. I could only imagine what really happened. I also think that there are cameras, both on some employees and around the ship so I wonder if the captain didn't actually have video to evaluate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos A. Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, princevaliantus said: I agree to a point after viewing the video as the man in question is demonstrating aggressive behavior in the video. I don't see an ounce of humility on his behalf. Just a chip on his shoulder. 58 minutes ago, BB1 said: I have been on many cruises and have seen many people that could have been kicked off and weren't. I could only imagine what really happened. I also think that there are cameras, both on some employees and around the ship so I wonder if the captain didn't actually have video to evaluate. He mentioned something about they should bring more guards if they wanted to hold him. That sounds like a threat to me. He might have got violent at certain point. Even the lawyer says he doesn't have a case! MrB and Jjohnb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzywuzzy Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Cruise lines and their security staff lets alot of stuff go that would get you ejected from many venues on shore. Alot. Throwing someone off the ship is an absolute last step when dealing with a disruptive passenger. You can be sure there is a plethora of evidence that supports their decision. Skid, Paige, Baked Alaska and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarney Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 For me the hilarious bit is that they fell for buying that craptastic "artwork" they sell onboard - look at the walls behind them! LOL Larry Muster, Miguel, RWDW1204 and 5 others 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, carlosalonsor said: He mentioned something about they should bring more guards if they wanted to hold him. That sounds like a threat to me. He might have got violent at certain point. Even the lawyer says he doesn't have a case! He specifically stated, "I may have made a comment that said you better get more than a couple because I'm a big guy," That's essentially admitting to making a threatening suggestion to the worker & warrant removal from the ship. The Captain had little choice...Robert's own words got him removed; and, rightfully so...there's little civility anymore. I suspect either no reservation was made & the couple is lying; or, they didn't fully complete the process when making the reservation...leading to the reservation not being made or properly completed. Jjohnb, Baked Alaska and Carlos A. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 hours ago, carlosalonsor said: Just Saw the video. I think that or NCL blowed the situation out of proportion or this man isn't telling the whole story. A simple argument doesn't seem to be enough to get you kicked out of the ship. I’d assume that if he admitted to calling the guy “you idiot” on tv than the truth is probably missing a word in between and more vulgar. Skid, Carlos A., Fuzzywuzzy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Nothing worse than an entitled frequent cruiser arguing with crew. Clearly this would never occur on a Royal ship as the crew member would have cowered at the sight of their pinnacle badge. "Don't you know who I am?" MikeK, FManke, 12thman and 6 others 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 25 Most Annoying things not to do on a cruise....24 & 25 obvious applies to this particular situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChessE4 Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 And we who get frustrated or angry don't always realize how we appear to others: we may seem more threatening than we are. In our mind, we are just exasperated at the failure of a representative to look at data logically, but we have raised our voice, changed our stance, and facial expression, and generally become quite ugly. (or so I am told). WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 That kind of poor emotion and impulse control could easily escalate. People in such situations can only be judged by their appearance and actions. It shouldn't be the responsibility of others to determine what level of threat they might be. Baked Alaska, Larry Muster and 4ensic 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FManke Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 19 hours ago, twangster said: Nothing worse than an entitled frequent cruiser arguing with crew. Clearly this would never occur on a Royal ship as the crew member would have cowered at the sight of their pinnacle badge. "Don't you know who I am?" Unless you're Super Mario, shut your mouth and go back to your cabin. When you deal with the public, you are going to run in to A-holes all the time. You have to have a high tolerance in most cases and I think this probably wasn't over reaction, it just finally crossed that line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FManke Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, SPS said: Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes! Stupidest Man competition on board would liven things up. The Sexiest Man competition on board is getting a little old. Fuzzywuzzy, JLMoran, mom2mybugs and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, FManke said: Stupidest Man competition on board would liven things up. Does the winner get a Darwin Award? coneyraven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FManke Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, JLMoran said: Does the winner get a Darwin Award? He should. Even if he doesn't know who Darwin was. Fuzzywuzzy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, FManke said: Even if he doesn't know who Darwin was. I'm fairly certain that at least 93% of Darwin Award winners do not know who Darwin is. (Why 93%? I don't know, an odd number makes it sound more official.) Fuzzywuzzy, JLMoran, RWDW1204 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FManke Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 I'd be surprised if the percentage was that low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 On Anthem an out of control kid ran into the Staff Captain, literally. This brat had been punching random guests waiting near elevators while the parents did nothing. Small kid like 5 or 6 so not a death punch but still, you don't do that. He's running around and slams into the Staff Captain who walks into the area by coincidence. Staff Captain grabs kid and tells him to slow down, calm down, etc. Father doesn't like a crew member admonishing his kid so he starts getting into it verbally with Staff Captain. Along the way the father escalates it into "I know where you live and I'm coming for your family". Boom - cabin arrest. Next morning the whole family was put off in San Juan. Around eight of them including grand parents who all got to fly home at their own expense. Big tough Jersey attitude didn't fly with the Staff Captain. Threatening his family was the last straw. I'm sure this guy went home and told his friends "I didn't do nothing, we were just kicked off" and maybe by New York or New Jersey standards that's just friendly banter but it didn't work on the ship. That was our first stop on a 11 night cruise after one sea day coming down from Bayonne. Nice way to lose what must have cost several thousand for the cruise plus then having to buy plane tickets same day to fly home. SpeedNoodles, RWDW1204, DJsMrs and 11 others 5 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jce2 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 6 hours ago, JLMoran said: Does the winner get a Darwin Award? Arent the bulk of Darwin Award winners dead? WAAAYTOOO, Baked Alaska, 4ensic and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, jce2 said: Arent the bulk of Darwin Award winners dead? Ding ding ding ding!! I would imagine that on a cruise ship, the Venn diagram with most stupid in one circle and Darwin award winners in another shows a high degree of overlap. RWDW1204, coneyraven and 4ensic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, twangster said: On Anthem an out of control kid ran into the Staff Captain, literally. This brat had been punching random guests waiting near elevators while the parents did nothing. Small kid like 5 or 6 so not a death punch but still, you don't do that. He's running around and slams into the Staff Captain who walks into the area by coincidence. Staff Captain grabs kid and tells him to slow down, calm down, etc. Father doesn't like a crew member admonishing his kid so he starts getting into it verbally with Staff Captain. Along the way the father escalates it into "I know where you live and I'm coming for your family". Boom - cabin arrest. Next morning the whole family was put off in San Juan. Around eight of them including grand parents who all got to fly home at their own expense. Big tough Jersey attitude didn't fly with the Staff Captain. Threatening his family was the last straw. I'm sure this guy went home and told his friends "I didn't do nothing, we were just kicked off" and maybe by New York or New Jersey standards that's just friendly banter but it didn't work on the ship. That was our first stop on a 11 night cruise after one sea day coming down from Bayonne. Nice way to lose what must have cost several thousand for the cruise plus then having to buy plane tickets same day to fly home. I laughed so hard that I almost split my pants!!! Goes to show you if you think you are going to get away with misbehaving, it will cost you LOTSA MOOLA!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, twangster said: On Anthem an out of control kid ran into the Staff Captain, literally. This brat had been punching random guests waiting near elevators while the parents did nothing. Small kid like 5 or 6 so not a death punch but still, you don't do that. He's running around and slams into the Staff Captain who walks into the area by coincidence. Staff Captain grabs kid and tells him to slow down, calm down, etc. Father doesn't like a crew member admonishing his kid so he starts getting into it verbally with Staff Captain. Along the way the father escalates it into "I know where you live and I'm coming for your family". Boom - cabin arrest. Next morning the whole family was put off in San Juan. Around eight of them including grand parents who all got to fly home at their own expense. Big tough Jersey attitude didn't fly with the Staff Captain. Threatening his family was the last straw. I'm sure this guy went home and told his friends "I didn't do nothing, we were just kicked off" and maybe by New York or New Jersey standards that's just friendly banter but it didn't work on the ship. That was our first stop on a 11 night cruise after one sea day coming down from Bayonne. Nice way to lose what must have cost several thousand for the cruise plus then having to buy plane tickets same day to fly home. OUCH ! I wonder if he learned anything from his very expensive lesson. Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK6404 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, twangster said: On Anthem an out of control kid ran into the Staff Captain, literally. This brat had been punching random guests waiting near elevators while the parents did nothing. Small kid like 5 or 6 so not a death punch but still, you don't do that. He's running around and slams into the Staff Captain who walks into the area by coincidence. Staff Captain grabs kid and tells him to slow down, calm down, etc. Father doesn't like a crew member admonishing his kid so he starts getting into it verbally with Staff Captain. Along the way the father escalates it into "I know where you live and I'm coming for your family". Boom - cabin arrest. Next morning the whole family was put off in San Juan. Around eight of them including grand parents who all got to fly home at their own expense. Big tough Jersey attitude didn't fly with the Staff Captain. Threatening his family was the last straw. I'm sure this guy went home and told his friends "I didn't do nothing, we were just kicked off" and maybe by New York or New Jersey standards that's just friendly banter but it didn't work on the ship. That was our first stop on a 11 night cruise after one sea day coming down from Bayonne. Nice way to lose what must have cost several thousand for the cruise plus then having to buy plane tickets same day to fly home. Sounds like the idiot father has been watching way too many episodes of the Sopranos! No, that comment and attitude would never fly around here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzywuzzy Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Bring back walking the plank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FManke Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Fuzzywuzzy said: Bring back walking the plank! Or stocks, the pillory, the rack? I'm good with any of these. bcarney and Fuzzywuzzy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude from Ghana Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 I'm sure if he was respectful towards the crew and kept a level head he wouldn't have been kicked off. ChessE4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyraven Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 11 hours ago, Dude from Ghana said: I'm sure if he was respectful towards the crew and kept a level head he wouldn't have been kicked off. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzywuzzy Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 This guy made a point of letting everyone know he is a "loyal" NCL cruiser. Probably a Buffoon Level client. I guess he's gonna look elsewhere now. Unless he got put on the industry wide knucklehead list and this was now his last cruise. WAAAYTOOO, JLMoran, Skid and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FManke Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 If people have to tell you they are a big deal, they're not. JLMoran, Momof4crazytocruise, RWDW1204 and 4 others 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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