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Poll for Opinions Regarding Removal of the CDC COVID-19 Program for Cruise Ships


Poll for Opinions Regarding Removal of the CDC COVID-19 Program for Cruise Ships  

227 members have voted

  1. 1. Would you feel uncomfortable cruising if a larger proportion of unvaccinated were allowed to sail by the end of 2022?

    • Absolutely!
      61
    • Probably
      31
    • Meh
      41
    • Definitely not!
      94
  2. 2. Would you feel comfortable if cruise lines eliminated regular interval testing requirements for onboard staff?

    • No problem!
      88
    • Indifferent
      61
    • No way!
      78
  3. 3. Would you self-test prior to embarkation if the test requirement was removed?

    • Yes, for my own piece of mind
      67
    • Only if a benefit was provided (i.e. priority/early embarkation, discounts, OBC, etc.)
      52
    • No, I won't since it's not required
      108


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2 hours ago, memebag said:

So you would roll the dice and maybe infect other people just so you could go on vacation? You wouldn’t feel horribly guilty if you found out later that you may have been the vector?

I don't follow the logic in your response. 

At any point of any day currently, you could 'maybe infect' someone.  

In western society we are back to normal, with few exceptions such as hospitals and medical facilities, where a mask is now thrown-on out of courtesy more than the belief it'll stop you infecting anyone.   

Once you have your vaccine and boosters, it's as good as it's going to get, and it doesn't matter if you share a sauna with the unvaccinated.  The risk is on them, not you.  

However, if I was an insurance company I wouldn't cover anyone who hadn't been jabbed, certainly not for cruising.  

 

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4 hours ago, Lovetocruise2002 said:

Yeah, that was not really the response from Royal I was hoping for either.  And who knows how long it will take for the CDC to provide guidance.  

Me neither. I was hoping for a change, not a statement saying they will let us know when a change could, maybe, sort of happen. 

As far as the CDC providing guidance, they may come by Christmas. lol

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/cruise-travel-during-covid19.html#faq

Plan ahead

  • Be up to date with your COVID-19 vaccines before travel.
  • Check if your cruise line requires proof of vaccination or pre-embarkation testing, or has any other requirements to board.
  • If traveling by air before or after cruise travel, check if your airline or destination (see here for U.S. requirement) requires any testing, vaccination, or other documents.
  • Consider getting travel insurance. Consider buying additional insurance that covers health care and emergency evacuation, especially if you will be traveling to remote areas. Make sure you have a plan to get care overseas, in case you need it.

Pre-embarkation Testing

  • If your cruise line does not have a testing requirement, get tested for current infection with a viral test (no more than 3 days) before boarding a cruise ship, regardless of your vaccination status. Get your test results before you board your cruise.
    • If you recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days, testing is not generally recommended unless you have symptoms. People can continue to test positive for up to 90 days after diagnosis and not be infectious to others. Check with your cruise line regarding their specific policies, including if you need to provide a copy of your positive test result and a letter from your healthcare provider documenting that you recovered from COVID-19.
  • If you or your travel companions have COVID-19 symptoms or test positive at embarkation, the cruise ship may deny you from boarding. If you are allowed to board, you may be required to isolate or quarantine, depending on your symptoms and test results.

During Cruise Travel

Protect Yourself and Others

Masks

If You Develop Symptoms or Use a Self-Test on Board with a Positive Result

  • Isolate yourself in your cabin immediately.
  • Call your ship’s medical center.

Cruise lines may have their own requirements for testing, isolation, quarantine, mask wearing, and dining for people with COVID-19 or their close contacts. If you have questions about a cruise line’s specific policies, please contact them directly.

  • If you disembark the ship before completing your isolation or quarantine period, you should follow CDC’s guidance, or local guidance if you disembark in another country.
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39 minutes ago, Squid said:

I don't follow the logic in your response. 

At any point of any day currently, you could 'maybe infect' someone.  

In western society we are back to normal, with few exceptions such as hospitals and medical facilities, where a mask is now thrown-on out of courtesy more than the belief it'll stop you infecting anyone.   

Once you have your vaccine and boosters, it's as good as it's going to get, and it doesn't matter if you share a sauna with the unvaccinated.  The risk is on them, not you.  

However, if I was an insurance company I wouldn't cover anyone who hadn't been jabbed, certainly not for cruising.  

 

Guilt, the emotional response, may not be logical.

It's true, we are all potential vectors all the time. But going on a multi-day cruise is different from other activities. The evidence right now suggests omicron BA.4 and BA.5 are eluding some of the antibodies produced by the current vaccines, so just being up to date on your shots may not mean much right now.

Given that, I want to know if I'm carrying Covid before I get on a cruise. I don't want to infect other people, and would feel very bad if I did.

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2 hours ago, AspiringCruisePlanner said:

Thanks to the 84 people who responded so far!

It's interesting to see the distribution of the answers and how split the opinions are on these topics.  I'd imagine RCCL would utilize a survey like this to help guide decision making 😜

Let's reserve the comment section for constructive discussion.  Utilize the poll to voice your opinion.

Since I'm a huge fan of polling (if you follow People's Pundit then you know what I mean), I would like to see a binary poll. One or the other, force people to answer without leeway. "If you had to choose, would you choose x or y". Just in case you ever feel plucky and want to repeat the poll in a few weeks. 🙂

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32 minutes ago, twangster said:

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/cruise-travel-during-covid19.html#faq

Plan ahead

  • Be up to date with your COVID-19 vaccines before travel.
  • Check if your cruise line requires proof of vaccination or pre-embarkation testing, or has any other requirements to board.
  • If traveling by air before or after cruise travel, check if your airline or destination (see here for U.S. requirement) requires any testing, vaccination, or other documents.
  • Consider getting travel insurance. Consider buying additional insurance that covers health care and emergency evacuation, especially if you will be traveling to remote areas. Make sure you have a plan to get care overseas, in case you need it.

Pre-embarkation Testing

  • If your cruise line does not have a testing requirement, get tested for current infection with a viral test (no more than 3 days) before boarding a cruise ship, regardless of your vaccination status. Get your test results before you board your cruise.
    • If you recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days, testing is not generally recommended unless you have symptoms. People can continue to test positive for up to 90 days after diagnosis and not be infectious to others. Check with your cruise line regarding their specific policies, including if you need to provide a copy of your positive test result and a letter from your healthcare provider documenting that you recovered from COVID-19.
  • If you or your travel companions have COVID-19 symptoms or test positive at embarkation, the cruise ship may deny you from boarding. If you are allowed to board, you may be required to isolate or quarantine, depending on your symptoms and test results.

During Cruise Travel

Protect Yourself and Others

Masks

If You Develop Symptoms or Use a Self-Test on Board with a Positive Result

  • Isolate yourself in your cabin immediately.
  • Call your ship’s medical center.

Cruise lines may have their own requirements for testing, isolation, quarantine, mask wearing, and dining for people with COVID-19 or their close contacts. If you have questions about a cruise line’s specific policies, please contact them directly.

  • If you disembark the ship before completing your isolation or quarantine period, you should follow CDC’s guidance, or local guidance if you disembark in another country.

Is this the newest suggestions? I hope so, it leaves a ton of leeway for cruises to just ask you to fill out the form and then if you feel sick on board you can go get tested, just like we used to do with the flu. I cannot wait for RC to come out with their new protocols, let's goooo. 🙂

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21 minutes ago, Bowen said:

Is this the newest suggestions? I hope so, it leaves a ton of leeway for cruises to just ask you to fill out the form and then if you feel sick on board you can go get tested, just like we used to do with the flu. I cannot wait for RC to come out with their new protocols, let's goooo. 🙂

What we don't see (so far) is the new guidance the CDC will give the cruise lines.  Easy for the CDC to point the finger at the cruise lines but that depends on the back channel communication we aren't privy to.   

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8 hours ago, memebag said:

About 60% of the spread of Covid-19 comes from people without any symptoms. Maybe you didn't know that. Now that you do, you know that a 15 minute test can let you know if you're infected, and the US government is making a lot of those tests available for free. So there's no reason to go by how you feel.

That is a nonsense statistic and impossible to validate. 

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When was this written? Early 2020? CDC recommends literally EVERY intervention ever tried for COVID, including sneeze guards and partitions, which have been thoroughly disproven. There's no way any cruise line will enforce all these 'recommendations,' considering that they are way more restrictive than what they are doing now. So they will get to pick and choose which ones they want to use. The CDC is (of course) not making this easy on cruise lines.

Hopefully the cruise lines will see through this and realize that CDC recommendations have always been over the top safety-isms, and if you want to follow all of them, say goodbye to that raw cookie dough or medium rare steak!

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"Should" is on that page 125 times. "Must" appears once. It seems relevant that if cruise lines were to 100% follow the CDC guidelines requiring vaccination, they would need to require boosters (first AND second, for those who qualify). Considering how few Americans have been boosted, it seems unlikely that cruise lines will do this. So they may just throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak, and just pick a couple things that are low burden for cruise ships (eg reporting of symptoms before entering the cruise, having a quarantine space available).

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I’m thinking rather than making a lot of changes all at once…cruise lines may decide to drift away from the current mandates and not make an enormous splash. Test the waters, so to speak. See what floats the boats of their guests.

Seriously, I think it would make sense for them to go slow and make incremental changes. They have to look at how their customers react to each change. The sentiment is real that some cruisers may opt to take their business elsewhere if the mandates are less restrictive on another line. There are also cruisers who may want some requirements that make them feel safer, and may opt to cruise on a line that has pre-cruise testing as a mandate. I also think many cruisers are tired of the negative rap cruising has been getting in most press stories over the past few years. Especially after the restart, where the changes put in place have shown to be effective in providing safe cruising. No ship has been shut down since the restart…nor had a real ‘outbreak’ of cases requiring medical intervention. The sky was not falling.

I think with cruises seemingly being at or near full capacity, with all ships back in service, there is now a very high demand. So there is no need for them to make drastic changes just yet. But that could change. If one line drops mandates and sees higher bookings while another line loses bookings, it would make business sense for the other line to do the same. There can also be a business value in highlighting their ‘safer’ ships due to still maintaining mandates. But, that could backfire if a line without mandates proves to have similar infection rates…which I think would be the case. Either way, I do believe we are finally over the hump and on the way to eventually eliminating all mandates. And it’s about time.

 

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