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On 4/26/2021 at 7:10 PM, twangster said:

A difference in Europe with the summer 2021 sailings are the completely different nature of the itinerary.  

For the purpose of this thread and cruises from the US they can't do cruises to nowhere or domestic only cruises.  If ships sail in the US it will be to somewhere.  

I don't think they'll cancel US cruises and try to resell them on short notice.  That never works well.  I think very few of the July/August sail dates are 100% sold out or at capacity now so they they aren't starting with a full ship.  Some will cancel or use CWC if they sail, some have already CWC'd their cruises.  Worst case finds them needing to trim some bookings but I suspect a lot of that will be done naturally.  

Then, why did they cancel those Mariner sailings?

https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2021/03/16/royal-caribbean-redeploys-mariner-of-the-seas-between-october-2021-april-2022

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Doubtful. I booked a Cancun vacation in July that coincides with our sail date a day before the restart announcement. At first I was like, it figures, but now feel the cruise will be canceled again. Not sure how I would feel being the first back in a boat with so much uncertainty.

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I think the odds drop every day that they dont announce a clear "path" that they have agreed on and are walking down.

I have a mid-July booking that I would sail on without hesitation but most of the group i booked with is hoping to get cancelled and head up to Georgia for a week, they dont want to be on one of the first cruises ... 

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16 minutes ago, jticarruthers said:

I think the odds drop every day that they dont announce a clear "path" that they have agreed on and are walking down.

I have a mid-July booking that I would sail on without hesitation but most of the group i booked with is hoping to get cancelled and head up to Georgia for a week, they dont want to be on one of the first cruises ... 

Have you tried to check-in for you cruise in July or does it state unavailable?

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8 minutes ago, Annie kaley said:

 

We have 60 days to go for our cruise. The 4th of July on Allure. We have a back up plan. My son and is girlfriend have started new jobs and don’t know what dates to give for vacation requests. I say if you are going to cancel do so people know how to plan their lives. Not fair to the consumer.

I agree. I have 73 days to go for my scheduled July 17th cruise. Check in is unavailable on the website. I understand the business side of trying to make July cruises happen and not wanting to have another round of cancellations but there is basically radio silence from the major cruise lines on the status of July cruises beyond the boilerplate, they would like to see cruising resume in July. I would love to take my scheduled cruise in July but I hope Royal comes out with some more updates on cruise resumption plans and at least give some tentative plan to let those with July cruises make appropriate plans and schedule other vacations especially in this market for summer travel which has crazy demand and the later Royal waits to give updates, the less fair it is to the consumer who has money tied up in July sailings. 

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23 minutes ago, Annie kaley said:

 

We have 60 days to go for our cruise. The 4th of July on Allure. We have a back up plan. My son and is girlfriend have started new jobs and don’t know what dates to give for vacation requests. I say if you are going to cancel do so people know how to plan their lives. Not fair to the consumer.

Well said, but falling on deaf ears. RCG is trying to survive by using the revenue from their loyal customers deposits, cruise planner purchases, etc. and using an old "Peter to pay Paul" scheme as long as they can. I'm 59 days away and can't even check-in. Per RCG, information will be released 30-days prior to departure. I think it's cutting it close but, c'est la vie !!

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38 minutes ago, princevaliantus said:

Well said, but falling on deaf ears. RCG is trying to survive by using the revenue from their loyal customers deposits, cruise planner purchases, etc. and using an old "Peter to pay Paul" scheme as long as they can. I'm 59 days away and can't even check-in. Per RCG, information will be released 30-days prior to departure. I think it's cutting it close but, c'est la vie !!

Likely that is also the reason that any news about specific ships and ports that will sail under the 98/95/5 protocol will not be forthcoming until the last possible moment to forestall the avalanche of phone calls requesting FCCs, refunds, or L&S.

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8 minutes ago, MaritimeR&R said:

Likely that is also the reason that any news about specific ships and ports that will sail under the 98/95/5 protocol will not be forthcoming until the last possible moment to forestall the avalanche of phone calls requesting FCCs, refunds, or L&S.

I guess everyone just has to sit and wait until the other shoe drops.

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On 5/5/2021 at 1:55 PM, MaritimeR&R said:

Likely that is also the reason that any news about specific ships and ports that will sail under the 98/95/5 protocol will not be forthcoming until the last possible moment to forestall the avalanche of phone calls requesting FCCs, refunds, or L&S.

Will requesting a l&s be possible? is it only if rc cancel? And what happens if you have already done a l&s?

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23 hours ago, smokeybandit said:

Odds of July sailings just plummeted after the CDC's newest "guidance"

I just read NCL's response to the CDC's newest guidance and it looks like they agree with you on this, there CEO is saying at least for NCL a July resumption is unlikely at this time. 

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Based on what has been published to date by RCG, if THEY cancel the sailing and it has not been previously Lifted/Shifted the following options are available:

  • Lift and shift (even if it has been lifted and shifted previously due to a cancellation)
  • A refund 
  • A 125 FCC 

However, be forewarned;  if you opt to L&S, your deposit becomes a NRD (non-refundable)

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I have a cruise August 2nd. It includes my 12 yr old who wont be vaccinated, and I definitely dont want to go on a cruise where we have to mask outside, or have to do "to go" food options, amongst other issues. My family members are vaccinated. I just assume cancel, but since I made final payments, hopefully we can lift and shift.

 

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