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25 minutes ago, kimpossible1 said:

I think it's a shame that people take pleasure in other people's misfortunes.  I didn't need the photos with the captions or the reposting of the video.  

Not any misfortune here. They chose to miss the ship. People need to be held accountable for their decisions. 

 

I am sorry, but their tears sustain me...I enjoyed the photos and video immensely.

 

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I think this thread has served a purpose.  Cruisers old and new have learned the ship will actually leave without you when you don't return in time.  Of the 6,000 on board, 5,998 made it back. 

I was on a cruise two weeks ago and I saw 60 - 80 people slowly walking up the pier well past all aboard time.  None were in a hurry.  One drunk girl lay on the concrete pier and rested (or passed out) .   I had to check my watch thinking I was an hour off.  I wasn't.  Crew were waving to them to hurry up.  The bridge blew the ship's horn.  People are way too cavalier and just assume the world revolves around them. 

I tire at the muster drill waiting for the stragglers to show up.  I tire on an excursion waiting for people who show up late.  

Hopefully this video will serve to educate everyone that a ship will leave without you.  It is your responsibility to be on time.

The cruise community has a name for these types of people.  "Pier Runners" and it transcends all cruise lines.   

This is about personal accountability and yes, two ships full of passengers will make fun of you when you miss the ship.  

Lesson learned - don't be late.  

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17 hours ago, bhageerah said:

We ALWAYS head back to the ship a little early, and keep an eye on the time.  We usually book a balcony room and end up getting lucky enough to be on the side of the ship facing the dock.  We get back about an hour or two early and watch the runners...

This just became my new favorite thing!

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On our last cruise to watch a couple return 30 mins late AFTER the ship had waited for them was one of the highlights of the cruise. They were so drunk they could barely stand and police had escorted them to the ship. I believe the Captain or security refused them onboard and after the couples friends had got off to argue with the decision, the ship left without them. A harsh lesson not to get bladdered while in port and always check when the ship leaves. 

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I do feel sorry for them,  but honestly this is not like a private yacht.  There is a lot that goes into this, such as the tugs and their pilots to get out of port.  Plus,  as can be seen in  the video RCCL was waiting their turn to leave port.  If they waited for every straggler than it will have a domino effect for the next ship, and so on and so forth.

I recall when we came in to the Bahamas.  We were the 2nd to dock, by the time we came back to the ship.  Disney (left already).  Carnival and NCL were the next 2 and we were the last.  If Carnival waited, than that would have impacted the rest of us leaving.  Bahamas was our 1st stop.  It would have meant to get on time to the next the Captain would have had to increase his speed.

Think of it this way, would any airline wait for that person that was 15 mins late?  No.

I also feel the same way about Muster drills as others.  When we did Enchantment yrs ago.  We had to stand outside in the beating sun for @ 15 more mins before they started because with the muster drill they know exactly who is missing since you are assigned to a specific location and they take roll call.  When they finally found them or they decided to show up, they were received with @100 death glares in our group since it was obvious they were the hold ups.  To boot they were upset because they walked up with a full alcoholic beverage and the staff made them pitch it for the muster.  So we had to wait a few more mins bc now only did they argue about it, but than walked back in to find a table so they could pick it up 1x we were done.  They were standing next to my hubby and I.  As we re-entered I guess someone in front of us watched where they placed it and decided to pick up their drink and dispose of it for them.  Needless to say they were now angrier bc someone stole their drink,.  muttering can you believe how rude these passengers are?

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On 2/17/2019 at 8:54 AM, VolFanInGa said:

What a crappy port to be left behind in...

I disagree with this.  If I were to be left behind anywhere I would hope it was there.  There are so many excursions I want to go on here I can barely even do one in the 4 or 5 hours here.   If I was left behind here I would go back to Atlantas and actually get my money’s worth at the waterpark.  I would check into a hotel and try the next day try and make it to Dolphin Cay in the morning and see the pigs in the afternoon and maybe even something else before getting back to Miami the morning the boat got in.  That’s just me though, I would move to the Bahamas if they weren’t so strict about not letting in dogs that look like any kind of bull terriers.

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2 hours ago, kimpossible1 said:

I think it's a shame that people take pleasure in other people's misfortunes.  I didn't need the photos with the captions or the reposting of the video.  

I appreciate the video.  The video is a cautionary tale for us noobs.

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LindaN, the problem in your scenario is where do you think your passports will be when you miss the ship?  They will most likely be on the ship.  How do you now get back to Miami without a passport?

You go through immigration on the ship.  Not at the Bahamian port.  You only need your seapass to get back on.  At least that was the protocol 2 yrs ago when I was there.  We did not take them with us when we went to Blue Lagoon for the day.  They were locked in our safe.  

Additionally, I do not know about Bahama, but if you travel overseas every hotel I have been in has requested our passports.  They will hold them for you in their safe until you check out.  This impo is for legal reasons, such as involved in a crime so you can't run.  How do you check in without it?    Pretty sure they are use to it though, they may even have the cruise line numbers on speed dial to verify your passport.

Now add on the additional cost of flying 1 way with 24 hr notice.  Betting that ticket is sky high.  Add into the equation you have jewelry left in the safe.  Your clothes are all unpacked, so on and so forth.  For Anthem of the Seas out of Bayonne, they  go to Bermuda for 2 nights and back to Bayonne the slow route.  So it wouldn't be 1 night, but 2 nights that you would need.  I have to look at my Adventure schedule, but either it is Bermuda or Bahamas as our last port.  We than have 2 sea days and nights, arriving in the a.m. 3 days after we leave the last port.  That is a lot of money.  

 

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I was just thinking about how long do you think it took them to realize OH CRAP my phone is about to die and I have no charger.  Followed on with OMG these phone calls are going to cost a fortune if I use my phone since I am now it is considered international.

OBTW I reversed it, it was NCL passengers filming the RCL Symphony. 

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3 hours ago, kimpossible1 said:

I think it's a shame that people take pleasure in other people's misfortunes.  I didn't need the photos with the captions or the reposting of the video.  

It is kind of fun to watch people running and make it onto the ship.  It does put a different light on the situation when they don't make it.  However, there is a 99% chance this was not a simple misfortune, but rather a neglect of responsibility. 

 

If we can leap from misfortune to neglect, we can then leap to the possibility that it's not the first time they've pushed the envelope in any number of instances when in a public setting.  In that you get a little piece of karma.

 

I wish they'd have made it and this topic didn't come up, but as mentioned, there is a very good chance this isn't the first time.

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After seeing this I`m still undecided on an excursion we want to book...its in Jamaica and says it gets back at 6:15 and the ship leaves at 7...this seems iffy to me but I`ve been told theres no reason to worry...I`m stil not convinced!

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Just now, kjw83 said:

After seeing this I`m still undecided on an excursion we want to book...its in Jamaica and says it gets back at 6:15 and the ship leaves at 7...this seems iffy to me but I`ve been told theres no reason to worry...I`m stil not convinced!

Is it an excursion through RCCL?

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3 hours ago, Pima1988 said:

LindaN, the problem in your scenario is where do you think your passports will be when you miss the ship?  They will most likely be on the ship.  How do you now get back to Miami without a passport?

You go through immigration on the ship.  Not at the Bahamian port.  You only need your seapass to get back on.  At least that was the protocol 2 yrs ago when I was there.  We did not take them with us when we went to Blue Lagoon for the day.  They were locked in our safe.  

Additionally, I do not know about Bahama, but if you travel overseas every hotel I have been in has requested our passports.  They will hold them for you in their safe until you check out.  This impo is for legal reasons, such as involved in a crime so you can't run.  How do you check in without it?    Pretty sure they are use to it though, they may even have the cruise line numbers on speed dial to verify your passport.

Now add on the additional cost of flying 1 way with 24 hr notice.  Betting that ticket is sky high.  Add into the equation you have jewelry left in the safe.  Your clothes are all unpacked, so on and so forth.  For Anthem of the Seas out of Bayonne, they  go to Bermuda for 2 nights and back to Bayonne the slow route.  So it wouldn't be 1 night, but 2 nights that you would need.  I have to look at my Adventure schedule, but either it is Bermuda or Bahamas as our last port.  We than have 2 sea days and nights, arriving in the a.m. 3 days after we leave the last port.  That is a lot of money.  

 

There is protocol for folks who don’t make it to the ship on time beyond blasting the ships horn. It begins with announcements onboard requesting they call guest relations (because it is entirely possible they are aboard); you can be sure their recent seapass use is researched to see if they have entered their stateroom, bought a drink, played a slot machine, bought some art from Park West, etc. etc. I’d like to think somebody onboard is calling, emailing, and texting the important contact information you were required to submit when you bought the cruise. Finally— security enters their stateroom and ransacks it to obtain their passport and then those missing persons passports are handed to the local port agent before the ship leaves. Offenders are left high and dry but with access to their passports, just no luggage. On the bright side they do have plenty of time to head back to Froggies or Margaritaville.

Who is the port agent you ask? Well, somewhere buried in your cruise documents is the name, address, and phone number of the port agents for the ports you will be visiting. You sign your name that you are aware of this people when you first get onboard. Remember?

We all can be sure the ports where people are frequently late like Rome (Civitavecchia) or Nassau everyone who works on that pier will know which way you need to go and who you need to see.

Not every pier runner is drunk. Hey, sometimes medical emergencies happen while passengers are in port. In those cases, the hospital will usually notify the ship that Mr Smith has had a heart attack and Mrs Smith will be staying with him while he is in surgery or Mr Jones is in traction from a zip line injury earlier that morning; in those cases Royal security will ransack the room and the little safe looking for passports as they do but they will also pack the personal belongings and leave those with the port agent. So maybe hospitality has not completely left the cruise industry?

 

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6 hours ago, Pima1988 said:

LindaN, the problem in your scenario is where do you think your passports will be when you miss the ship?  They will most likely be on the ship.  How do you now get back to Miami without a passport?

You go through immigration on the ship.  Not at the Bahamian port.  You only need your seapass to get back on.  At least that was the protocol 2 yrs ago when I was there.  We did not take them with us when we went to Blue Lagoon for the day.  They were locked in our safe.  

Additionally, I do not know about Bahama, but if you travel overseas every hotel I have been in has requested our passports.  They will hold them for you in their safe until you check out.  This impo is for legal reasons, such as involved in a crime so you can't run.  How do you check in without it?    Pretty sure they are use to it though, they may even have the cruise line numbers on speed dial to verify your passport.

Now add on the additional cost of flying 1 way with 24 hr notice.  Betting that ticket is sky high.  Add into the equation you have jewelry left in the safe.  Your clothes are all unpacked, so on and so forth.  For Anthem of the Seas out of Bayonne, they  go to Bermuda for 2 nights and back to Bayonne the slow route.  So it wouldn't be 1 night, but 2 nights that you would need.  I have to look at my Adventure schedule, but either it is Bermuda or Bahamas as our last port.  We than have 2 sea days and nights, arriving in the a.m. 3 days after we leave the last port.  That is a lot of money.  

 

I thought you always took your passport with you when you leave the ship, I guess not.

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3 hours ago, LindaN said:

I thought you always took your passport with you when you leave the ship, I guess not.

Most Caribbean cruises don't require that you take your passport off the ship.  Ships are cleared based on manifests submitted to governments.  A ship pulls up, local immigration clears the ship as a whole and every one is free to leave.  You never see local customs agents in each country, it's done while you are sleeping, or eating breakfast, etc...

When cruising to Cuba you must present your passport to Cuban immigration in the terminal so you need your passport to get off the ship there.  

Other than Cuba you just need ship card and in some cases a gov't ID like a drivers license to get back on the ship.  Some ports want gov't ID to see the name on the ship card is a match.  

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Ok, I looked up cruise ship dock runners on YouTube, I guess this is a thing, and not caused by the app.   The videos are kind of funny, sorry for laughing at the misfortune of others.   More than half of them you see Atlantas in the background, but it happens at other ports too.  One thing I know now for sure, if I am late and miss the boat, my run will be YouTube famous with lots of hecklers and mean, but funny, comments.  Lol

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1 hour ago, LindaN said:

Ok, I looked up cruise ship dock runners on YouTube, I guess this is a thing, and not caused by the app.   The videos are kind of funny, sorry for laughing at the misfortune of others.   More than half of them you see Atlantas in the background, but it happens at other ports too.  One thing I know now for sure, if I am late and miss the boat, my run will be YouTube famous with lots of hecklers and mean, but funny, comments.  Lol

Yep, should it (dog forbid) ever happen to me, I'll just be sure to wave and bow to anyone with a camera. Might as well embrace the pain! Glad you're still with us and posting :)

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I saw many people (here and other boards) do not like the shaming that is being done for the peer runner , I just want to remind people that for the few peer runner you have thousands on the ship that : 

  • Gave up the excursions they wanted as it was schedule to end only 30-45 minutes before all on board and did not want to take the chance.
  • Took the more expensive excursion just to be on the safe side
  • Had to argue with their family that wanted to stay another 30 minutes in the bar/the museum/ the beach/shop/another round in the flight simulator etc ... 
  • Will miss time on the next port since the ship had to wait for peer runner.
  • Will wait extra time for the ship shops/Casino to be opened.
  • And many other things .

Publishing such video/stories might help to avoid such cases in  the future , people will understand that ships will leave without them. The people in this movies are just a symbol , it might be they good excuses but it dose not matter , its not about them its about the general phenomenon . 
If the cruise ship could leave the port 15 minutes after all aboard and not 45 - 60 minutes as today they might add this extra 30 - 45 minutes to the port time ...

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I admit liking watching pier runner videos and pier runners when other ships depart.  The one video I loved was when there was one of the port workers running down the pier and then dancing for the watchers.  They know the legacy of the pier runners and even they have fun with it.  I got a great laugh from it.

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Just now, ThyriC said:

I admit liking watching pier runner videos and pier runners when other ships depart.  The one video I loved was when there was one of the port workers running down the pier and then dancing for the watchers.  They know the legacy of the pier runners and even they have fun with it.  I got a great laugh from it.

This I must see.

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8 hours ago, twangster said:

Most Caribbean cruises don't require that you take your passport off the ship.

Operative word here being "most". Our very first cruise, we had our first port stop in St. Kitts and I brought out passports with us "just to be safe" like so many here have recommended. It was a darned good thing I did, because when we went back to the ship after our excursion, the security staff at the dock entrance were telling everyone approaching them that they were requiring passports along with your SeaPass card for re-entry to the dock, and that they were not accepting the usual driver's license and birth certificate combo. I have no idea how the probably hundreds who were there without a passport got back on, and maybe this was just an overzealous security shift, but I was thanking my lucky stars that I'd paid attention to the advice given here and threw our passports into my backpack!

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