CruiseRoyalDad Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 So what's the upside for the Royal faithful? More ships in port? More cruisers to compete with for activity availability? Higher costs than the already ridiculous prices for the marquee excursions such as thrill, beach club, and cabana's? More pee in the Caribbean's largest swimming pool? I don't really see a win here. Seems they want to make sure the island is always at max capacity. USFFrank, fireclan and Neesa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, CruiseRoyalDad said: Seems they want to make sure the island is always at max capacity. Bingo ! Rackham, RCIfan1912, Traveler and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSC Mike Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, CruiseRoyalDad said: Seems they want to make sure the island is always at max capacity. As they should. That said, the adult only beach will add to the capacity and unless it's 2 Oasis/Icon class ships, they really won't be near what they claim is max capacity. I'd like to be there with fewer people as much as the next guy but I'm not going to stress over this until I spend a day there and truly don't have a good time. Thumper44, Mr. K and RCIfan1912 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottD Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 Yeah, I don't see it being a huge difference-and honestly you'll probably get more people staying on board a Celebrity ship at PDCC, than a second RC ship. I do want to know if a cabana or water park pass fluctuates more, less or stays the same for both lines. asquared17 and Neesa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 It's only two Celebrity ships, and there's plenty of room in the schedule for more ships at Coco Cay. Matt, mscinmia and dr martini 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, CruiseRoyalDad said: So what's the upside for the Royal faithful? More ships in port? More cruisers to compete with for activity availability? Higher costs than the already ridiculous prices for the marquee excursions such as thrill, beach club, and cabana's? More pee in the Caribbean's largest swimming pool? I don't really see a win here. Seems they want to make sure the island is always at max capacity. They are doing things to provide value to their shareholders. When that pleases the Royal Faithful, that's great. All they need though is for enough cruisers to be willing to tolerate it for it to be a win. More competition for every item on PDCC means higher pricing for all of it. BrianB and CruiseRoyalDad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda R Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 13 hours ago, CruiseRoyalDad said: So what's the upside for the Royal faithful? More ships in port? More cruisers to compete with for activity availability? Higher costs than the already ridiculous prices for the marquee excursions such as thrill, beach club, and cabana's? More pee in the Caribbean's largest swimming pool? I don't really see a win here. Seems they want to make sure the island is always at max capacity. The new adults only beach will add more space and hopefully a restaurant in that area. But I hate to see the island being maxed for people all the time. I wish it was just for Royal ships. CruiseRoyalDad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottD Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 So..this is from a few years ago, but definitely sounds like they plan on a new dock or tendering.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, ScottD said: So..this is from a few years ago, but definitely sounds like they plan on a new dock or tendering.... I don't read it that way. Essentially three OA class by numbers, but back then Bayley knew Icon was coming and he knew how many would be on Icon, and Wonder and Utopia, but he couldn't say anything about those ships, so he put it in terms he could say publicly. A second pier makes a lot of sense long term but that is the price of a ship AMP and they don't have a lot of money to spend on that stuff right now. If they found 80 million in a coat pocket would they put that into a ship amp or a new pier? If I had a time machine I would not all be surprised to be leap forward and find another pier at CocoCay, the only question is how many years do I need to leap forward to find it. ScottD and asquared17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Celebrity ship are smaller than Royal's newest ships, smaller than Voyager class ships by the numbers of pax. They are closer to Radiance class in terms of passenger count compared to something like Mariner. At CocoCay if I had to be across the pier from another ship, which is likely, I'd much rather it be a Celebrity ship. Freegirl, USCG Teacher, dr martini and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asquared17 Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, twangster said: At CocoCay if I had to be across the pier from another ship, which is likely, I'd much rather it be a Celebrity ship. honestly, same. and with hideaway beach coming soon, i’d be okay sharing the island too. Neesa and USCG Teacher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 I like that they are expanding the island to allow for more guests…but I wish they would expand the beach club…and it’s restaurant. More guests on the island means higher prices for the club. Supply and demand. I guess it would increase the exclusivity of the beach club by making it more expensive…and maybe that’s part of the plan. I’m guessing they will just keep raising the prices as long as people are willing to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 Well, there go the days of being the only ship at Coco Cay. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2023/08/15/celebrity-cruises-just-announced-more-caribbean-cruises-visit-private-island?fbclid=IwAR0lS1GsYe4tTkAO_uEe0P6epfAyeNcocgR2cChgaQXpAYEv0ZogTpjQB1I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 Yep. They're going to keep the demand and prices high for the amenities that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike6453 Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, smokeybandit said: Well, there go the days of being the only ship at Coco Cay. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2023/08/15/celebrity-cruises-just-announced-more-caribbean-cruises-visit-private-island?fbclid=IwAR0lS1GsYe4tTkAO_uEe0P6epfAyeNcocgR2cChgaQXpAYEv0ZogTpjQB1I ive been to coco cay a few times now, and every time ive been there, there have been two ships, typically ive been on anthem and usually freedom was there as well. granted not two oasis class ships but still 7000-8000. i dont have icon booked, but if i did why would i get off after having spent a small fortune for the on ship water park to then go pay for another water park or pay for an adults only section...seems silly to me, but then again i didnt book icon.... Montemy2419 and Neesa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 I can't remember the last time I was on the only ship at PDCC. White ship, blue ship, baby blue hull ship, whatever. It's their island, of course they are going to use it. Maybe one day there will only be a Celebrity ship at PDCC. Oh the humanity! PeloAl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 I checked the summer schedule and was kind of surprised that there are two ships there only about 50% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Va4fam Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 So many questions........ Is the goal 2 or 3 ships each day? Does current pier have capacity for 3 ships? What is capacity of the waterpark? Will that be limited or expanded? Would they ever consider using tenders again for the smaller ships to keep increasing capacity? They did that until 2017, right? As much as I grumble about the changes, it does seem to be good for my RC stock price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkelBierJay Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 With several hundred employees on the island, it makes sense for them to be generating extra return with this if they can sell more drinks and excursions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 42 minutes ago, Va4fam said: Is the goal 2 or 3 ships each day? Does current pier have capacity for 3 ships? These types of comments of course are always taken with a grain of salt, but an officer last year told me that RC was going to add another pier for more ships. Though unless the adults area is huge, I don't know how that would be feasible to have 3+ ships there. Va4fam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 Two Icon class equals a maximum visiting guest count of 15,200. An additional pier doesn't mean four Icon class but it could be a number of ships with varying capacity that still add up to less than two Icon class ships that day. One Edge class, one Solstice class, one Oasis and one Voyager for example. Roughly the same as two Icon class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockerDom31 Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 Now if only Celebrity can do the Florida-Bahamas-CocoCay itinerary from NJ, that would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 I feel for the staff having to contend with I assume two different POS systems. I wonder if food was any different since Celebrity would have brought some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted Tuesday at 01:24 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 01:24 PM The Classic Package was treated like the Premium package on CocoCay is a huge win. I doubt it lasts, but good for those early birds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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