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MIAMI, February 18, 2019 – Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. (NYSE: RCL) today announced that it has entered into an agreement with French shipbuilder Chantiers de l’Atlantique to order a sixth Oasis-class ship for delivery in the fall of 2023.

https://presscenter.rclcorporate.com/press-release/25/royal-caribbean-orders-sixth-oasis-class-vessel/

https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2019/02/18/royal-caribbean-orders-sixth-oasis-class-cruise-ship

 

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For sure.  Three to four years of speculation and rumors.  I'll start... I hear they are building a port for her in Denver, CO.  

I'm actively working on what I've codenamed "Project Sabrina" as a way to weed out the unwanted and/or Canadian posts.

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2 hours ago, twangster said:

MIAMI, February 18, 2019 – Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. (NYSE: RCL) today announced that it has entered into an agreement with French shipbuilder Chantiers de l’Atlantique to order a sixth Oasis-class ship for delivery in the fall of 2023.

https://presscenter.rclcorporate.com/press-release/25/royal-caribbean-orders-sixth-oasis-class-vessel/

https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2019/02/18/royal-caribbean-orders-sixth-oasis-class-cruise-ship

 

I think this is great news...now I do think they need to tweak the ship a bit; however, I don't want to present my wish list just yet until my wife & I come back from Symphony later this year...which incidentally would be our second voyage on an Oasis Class ship(Oasis OTS in Sep 2016). One right off the top of my head...that I even wish Symphony had, is the cascading pool in the Solarium, like on Anthem OTS(Quantum Class ships). Never understood why RCCL remove the pool from Harmony.... 

1 hour ago, Bob_KY said:

Now - let the flood gates of rumors flow on where it will drop anchor.

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Well, I think this essentially clarify now, that an Oasis Class ship will port out of Galveston...at some point in the near future. Who has ports large enough to support this class of ship? Mia(Symphony OTS), MCO[Port Canaveral(Harmony OTS)], Bayonne(2020-2021 Oasis OTS), Barcelona(Allure OTS 2020 Western Mediterranean), FLL, Galveston(future).

1 hour ago, Rose City Cruiser said:

Mediterranean in the summer and Caribbean in the winter.

Agree....Allure OTS will sail the Western Med when it emerge from Dry Dock.

52 minutes ago, JasonL said:

Southern California or.... anywhere closer to Seattle than Florida

OH, I Wish(from Southern Cal)….just a 4hr drive from Sin City Baby. Glad to see Ovation OTS porting seasonally out of Seattle. However, Pacific Coast is not a huge cruising market like the Caribbean, Mediterranean, and the emerging Middle East. The Pacific Coast is more on par with the Asian(Hong Kong/Singapore) market; but, much more reliant. It would be great to get some of the bigger ships on the Pacific Coast, Hawaii, & the South Pac. The problem with the Pacific Coast cruises...on the majority of occasions, you port from one location & disembark at another...because of the distance of the itinerary in the most popular of time frames...the 7-Day Cruise....as well as changes in season north of San Francisco...like Astoria, Seattle, Vancouver, WA. & BC, Victoria, and the numerous Alaskans ports. The ideal Pacific Coast itinerary imo would be...1) Sea/Van,BC(rotate), 2)SF, 3)LA/SD(rotate), 4)Ensenada/Cabo San Lucas(rotate)[rotate for variety & one over-night stay in LA or SF(depending on rotation)] for 9-day cruises back & forth, mixed with 5-day cruises, like Anthem OTS out of Bayonne. In other words….do itinerary 1 thru 4 for 9-day, than return with a 5-day, featuring itinerary 4(both ports) thru 3, followed by another 5-day itinerary 3 thru 1, than start over with another 9-day cruise, 5 & 5.

 

Just an Idea.....  

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So, I must confess, I'm a bit torn on this one.  On the one hand, I'm glad for a new ship.  On the other hand, the Oasis class is now ten years old and when Oasis 6 launches, the class will be 14 years old.  At least from the bit of digging that I've done on RCCL ship classes, that would be the longest time span that a ship class had been in production.  At six ships, it would also tie for the largest class.

I guess I'm a bit concerned that the design isn't as fresh as it was when it launched ten years ago - considering that other fleets have stepped up their design game over the last decade, including RCCL itself with the Quantum class.  Does Oasis 6 make the most sense compared to Icon 3?

I mean, I understand these ships are built to be in service for many years and do get upgraded - we're certainly looking forward to what Oasis herself will be getting.  But still, the basic aesthetic of the ship is itself pretty well fixed by the class, and that aesthetic will be older than any off RCCL's large quantity classes at this stage (It looks like the Vision class six ships came out over about 5 years and the Voyager class five ships came out over 4 years).

Of course, I'm one to talk - I haven't had a chance to sail on any Oasis class ships yet, so any of them will be a new experience for me.

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44 minutes ago, ultimate_ed said:

So, I must confess, I'm a bit torn on this one.  On the one hand, I'm glad for a new ship.  On the other hand, the Oasis class is now ten years old and when Oasis 6 launches, the class will be 14 years old.  At least from the bit of digging that I've done on RCCL ship classes, that would be the longest time span that a ship class had been in production.  At six ships, it would also tie for the largest class.

I guess I'm a bit concerned that the design isn't as fresh as it was when it launched ten years ago - considering that other fleets have stepped up their design game over the last decade, including RCCL itself with the Quantum class.  Does Oasis 6 make the most sense compared to Icon 3?

I mean, I understand these ships are built to be in service for many years and do get upgraded - we're certainly looking forward to what Oasis herself will be getting.  But still, the basic aesthetic of the ship is itself pretty well fixed by the class, and that aesthetic will be older than any off RCCL's large quantity classes at this stage (It looks like the Vision class six ships came out over about 5 years and the Voyager class five ships came out over 4 years).

Of course, I'm one to talk - I haven't had a chance to sail on any Oasis class ships yet, so any of them will be a new experience for me.

Oasis class make money.  Central Park continues to be the most popular feature of any ship, consistently getting favorable reviews year after year. 

Don't assume OA5 or OA6 will be clones of her sisters.  Quantum Ultra for example, is an evolution of Quantum.  Oasis Ultra may be in the works and innovate.  By maintaining the basic bones of the ship they save hundreds of millions by avoiding the cost a new ship design from scratch.   

Icon hasn't launched and is unproven both in terms of power plant and acceptance by consumers.  While both Carnival and Royal have massive investments in LNG it remains to be seen how that is going to work out in the long run.  Symphony is a huge success, record bookings for her inaugural year.   Gamble on investing into Icon 3 versus going with a proven design?

What if Central Park was covered so that it could function better in cooler climates year round?  Turn Central Park into a family friendly indoor space with all sorts of new activities.  Place them into regions that have never seen an Oasis class before.  So many possibilities.  

Vision class wasn't even a class in it's day.  Three pairs of sister ships that got lumped together into a class after the fact.   Vague copies of each other for the same reason - economies of re-using a proven design.  Smart decisions in the ship building business.

Quantum will soon be up to five ships.  Who knows, maybe QU6 is lingering just off the radar screen tying for greatest number of ships in a single class. 

Carnival does the same thing.  Horizon and Vista are built on the Dream class hull design, just reimagined use of the space.  Dream Ultra.

Voyager class was a huge success and they innovated by stretching it into Freedom class,  basically Voyager Ultra.  Maybe the rumors of a stretched OA class will come to fruition.  

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1 hour ago, twangster said:

Carnival does the same thing.  Horizon and Vista are built on the Dream class hull design, just reimagined use of the space.  Dream Ultra.

Heck, even the Dream class is an extension of the Conquest class. Extending it further Conquest is an extension of the Destiny class.

All I remember after sailing on Carnival Victory, Freedom, and Dream they all had that familiar feel to them.

 

Other words Carnival has three classes of ships that are essentially same design. Just been built out somewhat between classes.

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Just now, CGTLH said:

Heck, even the Dream class is an extension of the Conquest class. Extending it further Conquest is an extension of the Destiny class.

All I remember after sailing on Carnival Victory, Freedom, and Dream they all had that familiar feel to them.

 

Other words Carnival has three classes of ships that are essentially same design. Just been built out somewhat between classes.

That's certainly useful to know.  I have no experience with Carnival to compare with.  Thanks.

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1 hour ago, twangster said:

Oasis class make money.  Central Park continues to be the most popular feature of any ship, consistently getting favorable reviews year after year. 

Money's the bottom line.  Royal's primary focus, and their biggest draw for a lot of people, is in maximizing the onboard experience, and the Oasis class' size gives them the greatest capabilities in that respect.  It also gives them the greatest flexibility for testing new innovations, as well as for future refurbs and modifications.

As for production spans and whatnot, this is a reflection of the sheer increase in scale.  As things get bigger and more expensive, you're going to see the time scale grow, too, and, yes, they're going to see them use some designs (especially such a successful one) longer than they used to.  You'll probably see the service lives of the ships themselves get longer, too.

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6 hours ago, twangster said:

Get rid of the bridge.  Tampa traffic isn't that bad.  

Hey, I kinda like that bridge.  Besides, it's not the only barrier to having an Oasis in Tampa.

A few years ago I heard some rumors about them developing a new cruise terminal somewhere beyond it (supposedly down around de Soto).  Maybe they should revisit that idea.

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37 minutes ago, CGTLH said:

Other words Carnival has three classes of ships that are essentially same design. Just been built out somewhat between classes.

One more that I tried of on Carnival.  It seemed I could close my eyes and in some places would have no idea what ship I was on when I opened them.  Many things repeat over and over.  Dream class had some differences but the cabins were verbatim copies spanning 20 years of ships.  

Royal 'suffers' from that on Voyager and Freedom class to some degree, but one class to another usually has some big differences.  I like variety.  

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Good news , love Oasis class ships and all the options they offer. I wish side by side to more and more big ships they will also invest to had more ports Oasis class ship can use in the Caribbean but also in Europe (French riviera for example , UK ports , etc) or even to design a better tendering system that  will allow Oasis new ships to use this option ...

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