Traveler Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 I know its not first discussion about the Key and I guess its not the last one . To help deciding if the key program making sense or not (at least for me) I created a table with all the benefits comparing the key to the different suites . I was not sure on one or two items so please let me know if something need to be fixed here. hope its helpful. anxiouscruiser, Lovetocruise2002, Rose City Cruiser and 7 others 3 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Great visual. That just confirms what I have been feeling all along with The Key. Possibly worth it in JS or below. Not worth it at all with GS and above. And more worth it on Oasis or Quantum class ships. ChrisK2793 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlowBro Ty Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Thanks For Putting This Together @Traveler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLA Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 The Key - special location for breakfast? Is this daily, and where on the ship might it be on an Oasis class ship? My husband and I were just going back and forth on it last night since it's not a TON more once you wrap in the VOOM cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted February 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, KLA said: The Key - special location for breakfast? Is this daily, and where on the ship might it be on an Oasis class ship? My husband and I were just going back and forth on it last night since it's not a TON more once you wrap in the VOOM cost. Regarding the special location for breakfast , this is one of the items I am not sure , I think I read in the past in one of @twangster Live blog , but it required to be verified , I can always correct the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLA Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, Traveler said: Regarding the special location for breakfast , this is one of the items I am not sure , I think I read in the past in one of @twangster Live blog , but it required to be verified , I can always correct the table. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2018/12/04/review-royal-caribbeans-the-key-vip-guest-experience It doesn't look like that's a perk - but the debarkation day breakfast is a lot better than I remembered seeing. I DREAD and avoid debarkation day Windjammer. Traveler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted February 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, KLA said: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2018/12/04/review-royal-caribbeans-the-key-vip-guest-experience It doesn't look like that's a perk - but the debarkation day breakfast is a lot better than I remembered seeing. I DREAD and avoid debarkation day Windjammer. Thanks, I have fixed it. I guess my memory starts to betray me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 I'm pretty sure that breakfast is not a perk of The Key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLA Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 A follow up for the more experienced for the key - if I purchase they key for both my husband and I, we BOTH get our own VOOM code, correct? It's not one per stateroom? Leaning towards it hard now because I realized I never do fun things on Oasis class or most ships (zipline, flowrider, etc) because I hate lines. JasonL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted February 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, Lovetocruise2002 said: I'm pretty sure that breakfast is not a perk of The Key. Correct , only the last day breakfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, KLA said: A follow up for the more experienced for the key - if I purchase they key for both my husband and I, we BOTH get our own VOOM code, correct? It's not one per stateroom? Leaning towards it hard now because I realized I never do fun things on Oasis class or most ships (zipline, flowrider, etc) because I hate lines. Yes, you each get a VOOM code. We bought the Key for SY in July. Right now we are still booked in a JS with no chance to upgrade to GS or above because I cannot justify SY suite prices. We got a good deal on VOOM (2 device plan) over black friday but with just the two of us, the cost of the Key was less than $130 more. We figured we can justify that difference with the additional perks of the key. On Anthem, I did not get it as we have our kids with us and that is 4 purchases for a 9 night sailing. Not worth it in that case. I really think it depends on who is going and length of sailing. Traveler and lambdabeta 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny260 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, KLA said: A follow up for the more experienced for the key - if I purchase they key for both my husband and I, we BOTH get our own VOOM code, correct? It's not one per stateroom? Leaning towards it hard now because I realized I never do fun things on Oasis class or most ships (zipline, flowrider, etc) because I hate lines. I can't definitively answer your question but I think the answer is yes, you both get Voom. I thought there was also a rule that if one gets it both have to get it. I'm probably way off on this, just thought I remembered reading this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted February 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, KLA said: A follow up for the more experienced for the key - if I purchase they key for both my husband and I, we BOTH get our own VOOM code, correct? It's not one per stateroom? Leaning towards it hard now because I realized I never do fun things on Oasis class or most ships (zipline, flowrider, etc) because I hate lines. I asked the same questions few days ago and the non official answer was yes, you are getting two devices , but might be good to check with RC as it is a major benefit of the program , opps , just saw @Lovetocruise2002 answer , which is the most official answer (for sure more reliable from any RC phone representative . Also , I guess since the internet price per device is going down as you add more devices , the price compare is different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, tiny260 said: I thought there was also a rule that if one gets it both have to get it. I'm probably way off on this, just thought I remembered reading this. That is correct. Everyone (including kids) in the cabin must purchase. That is why we cannot justify it for Anthem GC. 4 people x 9 nights. Not worth it! tiny260 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted February 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 I still struggling to decide if to take it to our Greece Island cruise as we have few tendering ports, but not sure if it worse it on a Vision class ship. For my Japan cruise from China I would really want to use it to skip some queues (and there will be queues there) and for the internet , but the key is not offer there yet (hope it will appear later) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGTLH Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Few thoughts, Voom for suites is only available on Quantum and Oasis class ships. Suites don't get early access to their room. Also on Quantum and Oasis you have no need for reservations for shows. Key you need to make reservations on those ships. Outside of Coastal Kitchen no special first day lunch for Suite guests. No daily water for suites (outside of Star class) Traveler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLA Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Yes, you each get a VOOM code. We bought the Key for SY in July. Right now we are still booked in a JS with no chance to upgrade to GS or above because I cannot justify SY suite prices. We got a good deal on VOOM (2 device plan) over black friday but with just the two of us, the cost of the Key was less than $130 more. We figured we can justify that difference with the additional perks of the key. On Anthem, I did not get it as we have our kids with us and that is 4 purchases for a 9 night sailing. Not worth it in that case. I really think it depends on who is going and length of sailing. So on ours, it's only $77 more for The Key + Deluxe Beverage package than the Deluxe Beverage/VOOM combo for both of us total. Wrapping in the embarkation and debarkation perks plus not having lines, it's looking super appealing. WAAAYTOOO and lambdabeta 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 This is a great tool, thanks for sharing it @Traveler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Great job. May need to differentiate or notate certain ship based features such as Coastal kitchen and free suite internet (OA/QU only). Also only star class gets reserved seats, other's get dedicated seating areas. I often see confusion with people thinking they get assigned seats (section a, row 5, seats 5-8) versus a section of the venue allocated to them. Not sure i understand "benefits per day". Traveler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose City Cruiser Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, twangster said: Not sure i understand "benefits per day". Real Cost of purchasing specialty lunch and VOOM wifi pkg per day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaN Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 If I have the key for a symphony cruise can I still reserve my shows in the cruise planner or do I have to wait until I am on the ship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny260 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Yes, you still need to reserve the shows, the Key provides you access to a specific area of the venue seating. Reserving the shows allows you to enter as soon as the doors open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted February 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 I have updated the table per the comments , added also SKY class to separate it from the other ships suites. Lovetocruise2002, JohnK6404 and Rose City Cruiser 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mworkman Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 I noticed that Quantum, Radiance and Vision class ships have Concierge Clubs and Oasis, Freedom and Voyager Class have Suite Lounges. How long will it be before the Concierge Clubs are changed over to Suite Lounges? Or do you think what is will stay that way? @Traveler Do you plan on adding C&A status vs your current matrix..ie Diamond and up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted February 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, mworkman said: I noticed that Quantum, Radiance and Vision class ships have Concierge Clubs and Oasis, Freedom and Voyager Class have Suite Lounges. How long will it be before the Concierge Clubs are changed over to Suite Lounges? Or do you think what is will stay that way? @Traveler Do you plan on adding C&A status vs your current matrix..ie Diamond and up? Regarding Concierge clubs , they already started to change it on the Vision , at least there was some people that were saying that on Rhapsody they changed it few month ago. they will need to do it as there more and more people with diamond plus and by switching the concierge to suite launch the do not need to revoke any benefits from D+ . Regarding adding C&A status , I will try but I will need to switch to another tool or to split it to two pages . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, mworkman said: @Traveler Do you plan on adding C&A status vs your current matrix..ie Diamond and up? Look at this guy, always trying to stir things up and complicate things! mworkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Ogre Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 hours ago, KLA said: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2018/12/04/review-royal-caribbeans-the-key-vip-guest-experience It doesn't look like that's a perk - but the debarkation day breakfast is a lot better than I remembered seeing. I DREAD and avoid debarkation day Windjammer. I go to the main dining room. Much better than the Windjammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Francis (Grandeur) told us that they will eventually be turning that CL into a SL. No timeline noted but was very certain that it would happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Francis (Grandeur) told us that they will eventually be turning that CL into a SL. No timeline noted but was very certain that it would happen I thought Grandeur was going to be like the Gettysburg Address....history? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: I thought Grandeur was going to be like the Gettysburg Address....history? It probably will be....one day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mworkman Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 14 hours ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Look at this guy, always trying to stir things up and complicate things! Any you said nothing about @Traveler stirring the pot with adding Genny to your room, Who is she and that's going to cost more in the long run. Lovetocruise2002, princevaliantus, Traveler and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted February 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 I updated the table , adding the D/D++ (I have not included all the benefits of D and D++ as they are not relevant for the comparison) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Traveler said: I updated the table , adding the D/D++ (I have not included all the benefits of D and D++ as they are not relevant for the comparison) . And I see you also removed Genny. @Lovetocruise2002 will be relieved! Traveler, Lovetocruise2002 and AlohaLivin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted February 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, JLMoran said: And I see you also removed Genny. @Lovetocruise2002 will be relieved! Noting wrong to have Genny in the room https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genny Lovetocruise2002, mom2mybugs, mworkman and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mworkman Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, Traveler said: Noting wrong to have Genny in the room https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genny Well what about this Genny https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Genny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, mworkman said: Well what about this Genny https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Genny Well, the Top Definition entry and definition #3 sounds a lot like @Lovetocruise2002 to me, based on what she's like here! (pasting screen shots of those definitions here in case they get replaced by some of the less flattering ones in the future!) Can't speak to the "most beautiful woman" part, given she's as secretive as @twangster and only posts her Lulu collection instead of selfies, but the rest seems to fit. EDIT -- Almost forgot: Lovetocruise2002 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjac Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Genny...Genie.....Lulu....Oh, you guys have too much time on your hands. Don't you folks have a job? WAAAYTOOO, The Cruise Junkie, Traveler and 3 others 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, JLMoran said: the Top Definition entry and definition #3 sounds a lot like @Lovetocruise2002 to me, based on what she's like here! Aww...thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 I'm on Mariner now. I got a letter last night about priority tendering, but when the time actually came to get on a tender there was no way to actually achieve this without being a bitch and just walking ahead of 100 people who were already in line. That being said, it was a quick and easy process to tender to Coco Cay, and I didn't find it to be any sort of problem. I got a great seat in which to get.....dock photos for you guys!!!! Traveler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, SpeedNoodles said: there was no way to actually achieve this without being a bitch and just walking ahead of 100 people who were already in line "They" need to fix this ! A benefit that you cannot use is no benefit at all. Sorry you had to deal with this. You should not have had to be the enforcer. Traveler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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