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1 hour ago, KLA said:

I'd be curious to see if the smoking ban makes the casino more profitable somehow - that would probably get Royal's attention. 

I would imagine that they already have a pretty good idea on the impacts of income of a casino smoking ban since it has been implemented on Celebrity (owned by RCG) for many years.   I guess those that cruise on Celebrity is a different demographic though.

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1 hour ago, TickledBlue said:

I would imagine that they already have a pretty good idea on the impacts of income of a casino smoking ban since it has been implemented on Celebrity (owned by RCG) for many years.   I guess those that cruise on Celebrity is a different demographic though.

RC has invested huge sums of money into the casinos & player programs (especially on Oasis class). I am not a smoker so I welcome the ban. In my opinion the half assed attempt at making 1/2 the casino “non smoking” was a total joke. I don’t care where you are in that casino, regardless of the designation it still smelled heavily of smoke. I don’t sail Celebrity but my parents are on them often & tell me the casino does not have the same vibe. I am guessing the Casino Royale smokers are going to be pissed and feel betrayed and this will reflect in the contributions to the machines & tables. I’m sure eventually they will get over it but smoking and gambling + drinking are all kind of married together into one good time!

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Many areas around the world have banned smoking in bars and restaurants.  When they did the smokers rattled their sabres and forecasted all of these establishments going out of business overnight.  That didn't happen.  Non-smokers rejoiced, smokers adapted.  The same will occur in ship smoking lounges that also have some gambling in them from time to time on ships.

Before this policy change the casinos were beginning to advertise smoking while playing only, like that would be enforced.  

It will be interesting to see if this temporary policy becomes permanent.  

It was going to happen at some point in time.  Perhaps the time is now.  

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5 minutes ago, twangster said:

Many areas around the world have banned smoking in bars and restaurants.  When they did the smokers rattled their sabres and forecasted all of these establishments going out of business overnight.  That didn't happen.  Non-smokers rejoiced, smokers adapted.  The same will occur in ship smoking lounges that also have some gambling in them from time to time on ships.

Before this policy change the casinos were beginning to advertise smoking while playing only, like that would be enforced.  

It will be interesting to see if this temporary policy becomes permanent.  

It was going to happen at some point in time.  Perhaps the time is now.  

IMHO it’s time RC starts adding designated smoking lounges completely closed off much like the cigar bars of the past. The smoking area on the pool deck is out of place where it is. At a minimum they should have set it up in a less trafficked area and away from all the kids running around by the pool. The walkers, breathing apparatus and smoke plumes are unpleasant at best. 

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7 minutes ago, tonyfsu21 said:

IMHO it’s time RC starts adding designated smoking lounges completely closed off much like the cigar bars of the past. The smoking area on the pool deck is out of place where it is. At a minimum they should have set it up in a less trafficked area and away from all the kids running around by the pool. The walkers, breathing apparatus and smoke plumes are unpleasant at best. 

Agree.  I am constantly having to backtrack and walk on the other side.  So many times I am not thinking about it, walk out of the solarium and boom.  In your face smoke.  Ugh.  Back in and over to the other side.  

Like airports that have walled off smoking areas with doors so they can exhaust the air outside and keep it from the terminal.

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26 minutes ago, tonyfsu21 said:

IMHO it’s time RC starts adding designated smoking lounges completely closed off much like the cigar bars of the past. The smoking area on the pool deck is out of place where it is. At a minimum they should have set it up in a less trafficked area and away from all the kids running around by the pool. The walkers, breathing apparatus and smoke plumes are unpleasant at best. 

There's one of these on Anthem, outside Deck 4/5 on the port side. An enclosed glass area just for smokers. 

There's another smoking area on Anthem next to the hot tubs right at the entrance to the indoor pool, and it's a constant wall of smoke when you enter/exit. It was a real pain every time we went in and out.

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I mean realistically what revenue is the Bulgari/Cartier store bringing in? My neighbor was a T&Co executive and as I understand it there is a good reason they yanked all the stores off the ships. How about a cigar/smoking lounge with a Havana style bar? Smoke in comfort and isolation. Everyone wins.  

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5 minutes ago, tonyfsu21 said:

I mean realistically what revenue is the Bulgari/Cartier store bringing in? My neighbor was a T&Co executive and as I understand it there is a good reason they yanked all the stores off the ships. How about a cigar/smoking lounge with a Havana style bar? Smoke in comfort and isolation. Everyone wins.  

Sell it as a pass in the Cruise Planner. Joking. Really. Really?

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10 minutes ago, KWong said:

Cigar lounge is actually not the worst revenue generating idea. But I'm certain that the cigar smokers would also not want cigarettes disrupting the cigar aroma. 

This is true but every cigar lounge I’ve ever been too has been a mix of cigar and cigarette smoke so this wouldn’t be any different. It’s all about the ventilation. Personally I would spend top dollar for a good quality cigar and a nice drink to go with it. Royal could be missing out here solving multiple issues with one venue. 

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4 minutes ago, tonyfsu21 said:

This is true but every cigar lounge I’ve ever been too has been a mix of cigar and cigarette smoke so this wouldn’t be any different. It’s all about the ventilation. Personally I would spend top dollar for a good quality cigar and a nice drink to go with it. Royal could be missing out here solving multiple issues with one venue. 

Didn't the Freedom Class just get RID of all of its cigar bars ?

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On 12/21/2021 at 8:29 AM, BrianB said:

On the Anthem they opened a new smoking area outside on deck 5. Two decks up from the casino. Inconvenient yes, but closer than the pool deck on deck 14.

Is it a new area different than the one near Vintages?  If it is the one near Vintages, that has always been there but not a lot of people know about it.

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I assume the purpose of the smoking ban is to force all to mask up.

However, by their own rule, when I sit down in the casino with a drink in hand, I can drop my mask.

Logically, the next step is to ban drinking.

The next logical step for RCI is to eliminate casinos totally.  Smoking, drinking, gambling…GONE!

Banning eating is going to be the difficult task.

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3 hours ago, jaullram said:

Is it a new area different than the one near Vintages?  If it is the one near Vintages, that has always been there but not a lot of people know about it.

I corrected my original comment. I was under the impression they were going to designate another area outside on dec 5 forward...closer to the casino. But no...they were referring to the outdoor, glass-enclosed smoking area already present on deck 5 starboard side aft. Sorry.. 

 

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Smokers used to have rights.  Seems the mask rules weren't enough. 

Now they think they are going to make me go all the way to the top of the ship to grab a cig?  Royal C won't get another penny from this Diamond member and Premier Casino Royale member.

All the money they waste on water slides you figure the geniuses could figure out how to put a smoking bar in.

The last place on the ship that smokers could actually relax and smoke INSIDE, is now gone because of a virus with a 99.5% survival rate??

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17 hours ago, YNOT said:

Smokers used to have rights.  Seems the mask rules weren't enough. 

Now they think they are going to make me go all the way to the top of the ship to grab a cig?  Royal C won't get another penny from this Diamond member and Premier Casino Royale member.

All the money they waste on water slides you figure the geniuses could figure out how to put a smoking bar in.

The last place on the ship that smokers could actually relax and smoke INSIDE, is now gone because of a virus with a 99.5% survival rate???

I will miss sitting up in the small area on the pool deck with all of the smokers jammed in having a good time, watch the idiots walking by complaining about the smoking  (other side of the ship morons).

 

The casino smoking ban expires on Wednesday.

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