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41 minutes ago, princevaliantus said:

They actually cannot deny you from disembarking as the manifest must be cleared in order to proceed on following cruise. If you do not charge anything to your room, you will not have an account. As I said previously, I know someone who does this and has no issues whatsoever.

Odd, I see people stopped from leaving often.  They have to go inside and deal with it.  

I suppose a lawyer would argue you can't illegally detain someone for ever, but if you stiff them I'd imagine they could engage the local police much like a store would for a shoplifter,  but I'm not a lawyer. 

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23 minutes ago, Fabian said:
Of course I want to give tips but to my liking, not those imposed by the shipping company, and I will give them to the people who deserve it. Thank you very much for your reply. And just going to the counter and saying that annul the tips will nullify them?

 

Just so you know.  Supposedly, if you remove gratuities and then tip on your own, the staff is required to turn those tips in to the "pool".  While you may think you are doing certain staff a favor, you really are not.  Staff may keep any additional tip on top of the daily gratuities.

If you really want to help the staff that deserve it, get their name and use their name on the post cruise survey or any compliment card you find.  This helps their long term career and they really appreciate it.

 

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29 minutes ago, melski94 said:

Just so you know.  Supposedly, if you remove gratuities and then tip on your own, the staff is required to turn those tips in to the "pool".  While you may think you are doing certain staff a favor, you really are not. 

 

 

How is that different from paying the daily grats...those don't go into a "pool"?..sure they do.....that's the whole point......so its 6 of one, half dozen of another really.

 

We all have our opinions about this..but at the end of the day...whether your account is charged...or you drop tips along the way...it all goes to the same place at the end of the day right?!

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12 hours ago, monctonguy said:

How is that different from paying the daily grats...those don't go into a "pool"?..sure they do.....that's the whole point......so its 6 of one, half dozen of another really.

 

We all have our opinions about this..but at the end of the day...whether your account is charged...or you drop tips along the way...it all goes to the same place at the end of the day right?!

The problem with doing the tips on your own is that there are lots of behind the scenes people you don’t see everyday that will not get their share. People like bus boys at the windjammer, people who clean and empty the garbage, etc. Yes people usually remember their stateroom attendant and the waiter but what about every else?

I wish the cruise lines would just pay them a decent wage without the tips so we wouldn’t have these tips discussions all the time but the system is the way it is. When you take the auto gratuities off you end up screwing people unfortunately.

 

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yup..i agree.....the cost that they show and what it actually costs is not even close.....a $299 cruise ends up costing  over $500 with grats and port fees/taxes before you ever set foot on the ship.

 

But its such a grey area really...forcing people to pay tips...isn't really tipping..its more like a tax or a service fee really....but that's a whole nother discussion.

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On 8/21/2018 at 9:24 AM, princevaliantus said:

Or just don't give them a credit card. You actually do not need to establish an onboard account. The ship can't send you a bill. I known someone who does this and gives the tips to whomever they feel deserves it.

You are obligated to establish an onboard account either when you complete online check in or fill out the check in papers at the port. Without an onboard account you can’t buy anything on the ship and you can not pay for excursions that you book onboard. Sure you don’t need to put a credit card on file and you could pay with cash on the morning of disembarking and can tip whatever amount that you want but then toward the end of your cruise you have to go to guest services and ask them to remove the automatic daily gratuity charge from your account. 

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4 hours ago, Jess said:

You are obligated to establish an onboard account either when you complete online check in or fill out the check in papers at the port. Without an onboard account you can’t buy anything on the ship and you can not pay for excursions that you book onboard. Sure you don’t need to put a credit card on file and you could pay with cash on the morning of disembarking and can tip whatever amount that you want but then toward the end of your cruise you have to go to guest services and ask them to remove the automatic daily gratuity charge from your account. 

You are not obligated to establish an account as I know someone who never has an onboard account. It has to be written in the passenger contract which it is not. Hence, a contract becomes binding. If it's not in the contact, there is no obligation. Business Law 101. Great elderly couple I met onboard with cruise adventures they shared and they never had an onboard account, paid their own excursions and grats are given as they please, if applicable. They never had an issue with any cruise line. 

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Whoohoo! Just got another $150 off of my 2019 cruise because of this promotion! Still have my $100 obc!

 

This is my second time calling in during a promotion to apply the offers and so far I have saved $405 since booking! I owe it all to Matt for his podcast and telling me just to put down the deposit and continue to check the sales!

 

 

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