FionaMG Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 I was never great at maths but even I can see that something's not quite right here... I just logged into my cruise planner for my Anthem cruise out of NJ to the Bahamas at the end of this month and the banner informs me: Which equates to: Um, ok, how can 50% of $90.00 be $66.99? Especially when, for my Anthem cruise out of Southampton to the Norwegian fjords in July, we have: Which, in turn, equates to: No wonder people get confused! Jjohnb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJC Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 This has been covered extensively here. I did find the formula though: =90x +62.99y + abs(sqrt 50%) + 2π-5/9 + 32 Bowen, Curt From Canada, Leadvocal and 7 others 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeRriii Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 Buy one Get one 50% is more or less 25% discount total. PL8SWPR, Bestcee, Pooch and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaMG Posted April 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, TeRriii said: Buy one Get one 50% is 25% discount. Aaaaahhhhh. So it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randon1234 Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 34 minutes ago, FionaMG said: I was never great at maths but even I can see that something's not quite right here... I just logged into my cruise planner for my Anthem cruise out of NJ to the Bahamas at the end of this month and the banner informs me: Which equates to: Um, ok, how can 50% of $90.00 be $66.99? Especially when, for my Anthem cruise out of Southampton to the Norwegian fjords in July, we have: Which, in turn, equates to: No wonder people get confused! I heard it was based off the original price. So 90 + 45 = 135 ÷ 2 = 67 PPPJJ-GCVAB, Ryan79 and SpicyCherry 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 The "Buy One, Get One 50% Off" is supposed to reflect the price for TWO after buying one full price and paying half for the other. (So, roughly 25% off for two) So, two at $90.00 x 1.5 = $135. $135 divided by 2 = $67.50 each (Advertised 51 cents cheaper.) In the second example, 70% of $90.00 is $63.00 SteveK, Randon1234 and Neesa 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho and Barb Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 For our next two cruises, it's the same price it has been for months...We track it on a spreadsheet. They just adjusted the base price to reflect what we call their fuzzy math... We know some of our friends on here don't like the term fuzzy math but it's a term we like. Bottom line is if you track the items you are interested in, you learn what the base price is for that cruise...If you see it cheaper, buy it but continue to monitor it. If you see it cheaper again, cancel and repurchase it. WAAAYTOOO, Montemy2419 and Keanoknick 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starrynight0154 Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 Wish my 2024 Wonder drink package would drop below $70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 Nothing really fuzzy about it, it's just math. Buy one $90, get one 50% off (90*0.5)=$45. Cost to buy one and get 50% off the second is 90+45=135. Cost per person is 135/2=$67.50. It only gets fuzzy because we grow accustomed to the "normal" discounted price for our sailing and want to use that as other starting point. Eamon, SteveK and Pooch 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, Xaa said: It only gets fuzzy because we grow accustomed to the "normal" discounted price for our sailing and want to use that as other starting point. Another factor that makes the math seem fuzzy at times: Sometimes the discount reflects a percentage off of the CRUISE PLANNERÂ list price. Sometimes the discount reflects a percentage off of the ON BOARDÂ list price. At first glance of a new sale, you might think the discount is better, but the percentage is a discount of the ON BOARD price instead of the CRUISE PLANNER price. FionaMG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaMG Posted April 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, SPS said: Another factor that makes the math seem fuzzy at times: Sometimes the discount reflects a percentage off of the CRUISE PLANNERÂ list price. Sometimes the discount reflects a percentage off of the ON BOARDÂ list price. At first glance of a new sale, you might think the discount is better, but the percentage is a discount of the ON BOARD price instead of the CRUISE PLANNER price. Yup, and then, as my example shows, you get different prices and promotions for different sailings, even on the same ship. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, FionaMG said: Yup, and then, as my example shows, you get different prices and promotions for different sailings, even on the same ship. With all the mathematics needed to figure out the pricing, it's a good thing that I took several algebra courses in college! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaMG Posted April 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 29 minutes ago, SPS said: With all the mathematics needed to figure out the pricing, it's a good thing that I took several algebra courses in college! I was rubbish at all things mathematical, barely scraped a pass in high school. Just as well I never need to buy a beverage package! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooch Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 Our cruise has been bouncing back & forth from $77.99 to 72.99 since we booked last July. Â One sale, just one and never again, it dropped to 67.99 which I grabbed. Â Xaa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan79 Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 Math…..baffling people for centuries!! rjweber3, Cactus527 and WAAAYTOOO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 3 hours ago, RJC said: This has been covered extensively here. I did find the formula though: =90x +62.99y + abs(sqrt 50%) + 2π-5/9 + 32  You can't fool me ! That's the equation for converting C to F ! Cactus527, rjweber3, FionaMG and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJC Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 29 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: You can't fool me ! That's the equation for converting C to F ! I tossed some of that in there as well!!!! FionaMG and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus527 Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 32 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: You can't fool me ! That's the equation for converting C to F ! YES! That was my thought when I saw it too - "hey, wait, that's the temperature conversion formula!" WHY, MATH FORMULAS, MUST YOU CONTINUE TO POPULATE MY BRAIN WHEN I HAVEN'T NEEDED YOU IN YEARS BUT YOU CAN'T HELP ME REMEMBER WHY I JUST WALKED IN A ROOM!?!??!?? WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montemy2419 Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Psycho and Barb said: For our next two cruises, it's the same price it has been for months...We track it on a spreadsheet. They just adjusted the base price to reflect what we call their fuzzy math... We know some of our friends on here don't like the term fuzzy math but it's a term we like. Bottom line is if you track the items you are interested in, you learn what the base price is for that cruise...If you see it cheaper, buy it but continue to monitor it. If you see it cheaper again, cancel and repurchase it. We cruise in about 2 weeks and we're not going to book the "Thrill Park full day at Coco Cay" but it has been fun watching the price. We will be on a 4 day then 3 day cruise on Liberty so we will visit Coco Cay for both trips. The visits to Coco Cay are just days apart but the prices are crazy. The price has listed $93.99 for the 3 day cruise and $121.99 for the 4 day cruise. Still a 1 day visit but the cruise that is longer by 1 day charges more ? I agree with @Psycho and Barb that you just need to track the prices and keep rebooking if/when the price drops. FionaMG, Psycho and Barb and WAAAYTOOO 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FionaMG Posted April 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 37 minutes ago, Montemy2419 said: We cruise in about 2 weeks and we're not going to book the "Thrill Park full day at Coco Cay" but it has been fun watching the price. We will be on a 4 day then 3 day cruise on Liberty so we will visit Coco Cay for both trips. The visits to Coco Cay are just days apart but the prices are crazy. The price has listed $93.99 for the 3 day cruise and $121.99 for the 4 day cruise. Still a 1 day visit but the cruise that is longer by 1 day charges more ? I agree with @Psycho and Barb that you just need to track the prices and keep rebooking if/when the price drops. Oh wow! I don't blame you! That's silly money. I got the waterpark for $50 during the BF sale. Same time frame; our sailing is on Anthem, 23rd of April out of NJ. No way would I have paid the amount they're asking for your sailings. Montemy2419 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBC Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 $62.99 and $66.99 are both great prices for a drink package, btw. Regardless of how they advertise it. Ryan79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 That's not crazy, this is CRAZY. From my Icon sailing in May 2024 Cactus527, WAAAYTOOO, CanHardlyWait and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 I am pretty good with math, but Royal's be fuzzy as hell, and I have to really put my thinking cap on. My hypothesis is that rules aren't consistent across the fleet. You can book something on an Oasis class which is generally a 7N sailing and it cost more or less than a 4N sailing on Freedom. The point is more people should mean a cheaper price, but it is often the opposite or sometimes the same price.  This 4N Freedom  This is 7N Allure   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHardlyWait Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, Xaa said: That's not crazy, this is CRAZY. From my Icon sailing in May 2024 I got lucky. I'm next May also, but all 4 are $40 less each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montemy2419 Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 I really think that the IT people at RC just use a dart board and decide what the price for an excursion or drink package will be ! At the start of their shift the lucky one gets to throw the dart for each of the package prices that they will change. It's really taking some of the fun out of planning because I think we put forth our money with trust and RC looks at their balance sheet after the last couple of years and thinks "they want to cruise so bad let's see if they are willing to pay X for this package". WAAAYTOOO and Shari3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomSlayer Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 It's all marketing to make us feel good about parting with our $$$. The real formula is: Price^2 = p^2*c^2 + m^2*c^4 Real physics and math nerds will realize the price approaches infinity as their body mass (m) is affected by a constant rate of consumption (c) and the ship's acceleration rate (p) also approaches the constant rate of consumption (c). WAAAYTOOO, Cactus527 and RJC 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho and Barb Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 2 hours ago, JBC said: $62.99 and $66.99 are both great prices for a drink package, btw. Regardless of how they advertise it. $18 for the booze package was a great price!!! That won't ever happen again Villageidiot and USFFrank 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 RJC, Cactus527, JBC and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Qeyton Dude Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/6/2023 at 8:15 AM, Starrynight0154 said: Wish my 2024 Wonder drink package would drop below $70 it will, be patient and keep checking they are bound to run the 30% off at least twice a year  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Qeyton Dude said: it will, be patient and keep checking they are bound to run the 30% off at least twice a year  This may not happen when the new cost of the DX is higher. I have barely seen $70 on older ships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starrynight0154 Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 17 hours ago, Qeyton Dude said: it will, be patient and keep checking they are bound to run the 30% off at least twice a year  There’s been 30% off sales and BOGO 50% off. New low seems to be $72.99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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