CruiseGus Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 just read on Matt's blog that they released the protocols for Alaska sailing that required all eligible adults to be vaccinated, and they are still requiring masks indoors unless seated and eating or drinking. They talk about vaccinated only venues, but don't say the will be mask-less. A few other restrictions for the un-vaccinated like only RCI shore excursions and no My Time Dining. Not real pleased with the masks indoors, I had hope with most all being vaccinated they would ease up on that, but then again nothing I can't live with. Looking forward to this cruise and many more in the near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 According to Matt's article, it says "The CDC does make allowances for guests to remove their masks in venues and events dedicated to fully vaccinated parties.". That seems pretty clear to me that it means maskless in those venues. And it seems like there are an abundance of vaccinated only venues. Unless I'm missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlynew Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 This may be a deal breaker for me. I am fully vaccinated and see no reason to wear a mask. CruiseDiva, DunwoodyDad, Scooter6251 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGTLH Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 From https://www.royalcaribbean.com/the-healthy-sail-center/getting-ready-to-cruise?dPort=seattle, standard boilerplate mask policy... Masks Guidance When indoors, CDC guidelines require all guests 2 and older to wear masks unless they are actively eating or drinking. The CDC does make allowances for guests to remove their masks in venues and events dedicated to fully vaccinated parties. Masks are not required in your stateroom when you are with your traveling party or outside on the open decks, unless in a crowded setting. We will update you on any changes to CDC mask guidelines before your cruise. You’ll find the entire ship and boarding process set up to allow for physical distancing, which is encouraged whenever interacting with those outside of your traveling party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising With JT Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 It is a little surprising but wearing masks indoors shouldn't really be anything new... most folks are used to it. Things may still change we'll see. Either way I am going on a cruise after 1.5 years and that is all that matters! KristiZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 This is what the CSO says about vaxmasking Fully Vaccinated Travelers Cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may advise passengers and crew that—if they are fully vaccinated—they may gather or conduct activities outdoors, including engaging in extended meal service or beverage consumption, without wearing a mask. Cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may advise crew who are fully vaccinated that they do not have to wear a mask or maintain physical distance in areas of the ship that are inaccessible to passengers. Cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may designate areas as only accessible to fully vaccinated passengers and crew where masks and physical distancing are not required (e.g., casinos; bars; spas; entertainment venues; and dining areas, including self-serve buffets). For ships with at least 95% of crew and 95% of passengers fully vaccinated, cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may advise passengers and crew that they do not have to wear a mask or maintain physical distance in any areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseGus Posted July 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cruising With JT said: It is a little surprising but wearing masks indoors shouldn't really be anything new... most folks are used to it. here in the Midwest, at least where I'm from, we see very very few people wearing masks anywhere any more, even in most restaurants the servers have stopped. it's been that way for the past couple of months already. BTW @SpeedNoodles thanks for pointing out my mistake, that what I get for skim reading, I should know better. Anyway i still ecstatic about being on a cruise again Scooter6251, Baked Alaska and GaryAA 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConstantCruiser Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 So working on the premise that in vaccinated only areas means you can remove your mask (if vaccinated) that means I am good in the casino and the pub, the Viking Crown Lounge and Diamond Club. What I don't get, if everyone over 16 has to be vaccinated why is the Solarium Bar and the Solarium not a vaccine only area? This is noted to be July only, so far, so we'll have to see what August protocols are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseGus Posted July 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: This is what the CSO says about vaxmasking Fully Vaccinated Travelers For ships with at least 95% of crew and 95% of passengers fully vaccinated, cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may advise passengers and crew that they do not have to wear a mask or maintain physical distance in any areas. This is what i was hoping for with all eligible passengers requiring to be vaccinated. But i can again live with what we are getting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, ConstantCruiser said: What I don't get, if everyone over 16 has to be vaccinated why is the Solarium Bar and the Solarium not a vaccine only area? They are on all of the other ship protocols, aren't they ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseGus Posted July 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, ConstantCruiser said: So working on the premise that in vaccinated only areas means you can remove your mask (if vaccinated) that means I am good in the casino and the pub, the Viking Crown Lounge and Diamond Club. What I don't get, if everyone over 16 has to be vaccinated why is the Solarium Bar and the Solarium not a vaccine only area? I would classify the Solarium Bar and Solarium as Outdoors so unless a congregate setting it would be maskless. But that is an opinion and when the first ships sail we will really see what it is. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConstantCruiser Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: For ships with at least 95% of crew and 95% of passengers fully vaccinated, cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may advise passengers and crew that they do not have to wear a mask or maintain physical distance in any areas Serenade guest count tops out at 2,490. 50% capacity would be 1,245. 5% of that is 62. So... if 62 children or less book the cruise they achieve 95% vaccinated since all adults must be vaccinated. If more than 62 kids on board, everyone must mask up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConstantCruiser Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, CruiseGus said: I would classify the Solarium Bar and Solarium as Outdoors so unless a congregate setting it would be maskless. But that is an opinion and when the first ships sail we will really see what it is. Only outdoors if the roof is open, otherwise it's indoors. That's one of the benefits of this class in cold weather. Probably why the Solarium made the graphic in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlena Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I've got to mention that although I'm not sailing Alaska I like the part about offering a PCR for travellers whose country requires it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Marlena said: I've got to mention that although I'm not sailing Alaska I like the part about offering a PCR for travellers whose country requires it. Those poor Canadians definitely need a bone thrown their way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlena Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Those poor Canadians definitely need a bone thrown their way Haha.. we do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConstantCruiser Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Thinking about it... I guess the Solarium is a throughway to access the pool deck from the forward staircase and elevator lobby. While kids can't stay in the Solarium they can walk through the Solarium. I've also seen it when on rainy days they allow kids to use the Solarium pool for specific hours. I guess that makes the Solarium a masked venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising With JT Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 One important thing to call out is this is for Serenade, it might be different for Ovation — “Here are the protocols for guests sailing on Serenade of the Seas from Seattle this summer.” Remember every ship within Royals fleet has had different protocols thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising With JT Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 https://www.royalcaribbean.com/the-healthy-sail-center/getting-ready-to-cruise?dPort=seattle I I am on Ovation of the Seas so I hope our protocols are different... they do vary from ship to ship...fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConstantCruiser Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 With the extra delay approved by the Judge in the Florida suit against the CDC the hope for protocol relief on July 18 vanished. That left Royal in a position where they had to implement the protocols they did for Serenade. Hopefully there will be no more delays and Royal won't need to implement the same protocols in August. Next up for Royal will be protocols for Odyssey and it's July 31st sailing. They may need to launch her with similar "July" protocols hoping the next cruise can switch to "August" protocols. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L454S Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Cruising With JT said: It is a little surprising but wearing masks indoors shouldn't really be anything new... most folks are used to it. Things may still change we'll see. Either way I am going on a cruise after 1.5 years and that is all that matters! I don't get the "used to it" part. Why would I pay thousands for someone to make me wear a mask. Quit doing that a long time ago and won't start again for a cruise that costs a lot of money. Hopefully you all enjoy your sailings.............. fireclan, DunwoodyDad and Baked Alaska 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12thman Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Cruising With JT said: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/the-healthy-sail-center/getting-ready-to-cruise?dPort=seattle I I am on Ovation of the Seas so I hope our protocols are different... they do vary from ship to ship...fingers crossed! Hopefully the requirements will change by next month. If they don't will need to look at my options. Cruising With JT and Baked Alaska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Micheal Bayley posted a response to someone on one of his Facebook posts that if we’re still wearing masks in October, we’ve got bigger problems. So I’m taking that to mean dropping mask requirements come Fall. But as we all know……nothing is certain even 24 hours from now. Baked Alaska, SebagoSue, cruisellama and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 The cruiselines don't want to mess this up. They want and need to show they are very very serious about this. If, for the first cruise back, they want to enforce masks, I'm OK with that. I'm scheduled for December 2021, and going into that cruise with the expectation that masks might be required even for vaxpax. If no mask is required, it's a bonus. Cruising With JT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseDiva Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Didn't the Fla lawsuit require the CDC to establish new "within their boundaries" guidelines by 2 July? I'm anxious to see @Matt posts when he gets on the Freedom today. I am going on the Freedom on the 5th and was hoping the numbers landed at 95% and they would allow no masks, but that might be wishful thinking. Either way I agree after not cruising for soooooo long, something is better than nothing cruisellama and Cruising With JT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 It's now 22 July, not 2 July. They wanted 4 extra weeks, Florida agreed to 2 so the judge gave them 3. CruiseDiva 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseDiva Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Dang, I didn't see that. Maybe because I was watching Hurricane Elsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, CruiseDiva said: Dang, I didn't see that. Maybe because I was watching Hurricane Elsa Hurricanes? Meh, Let it go (that's never going to get old) CruiseDiva 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Hurricanes? Meh, Let it go (that's never going to get old) I live in Florida. Yes, it will. Fast. CruiseDiva and WAAAYTOOO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConstantCruiser Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, smokeybandit said: (that's never going to get old) It already has. Note to the NHC - pick better names! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, ConstantCruiser said: It already has. Note to the NHC - pick better names! It gets better. Named storms 16 and 17 are Peter and Rose, so I assume both will hit Cincinnati. SebagoSue, Skigoofy, MrB and 3 others 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, smokeybandit said: It gets better. Named storms 16 and 17 are Peter and Rose, so I assume both will hit Cincinnati. The proper response to that is "You can bet on it". teddy, Fairlynew, YOLO and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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