bobroo Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 Because the entire propeller assembly is missing from the lifeboat, I’m thinking the propeller got snagged on the big, heavy cable (blue arrow) upon decent. Apparently the lifeboat was completely clear of the ship as there is no visible damage to Navigator in any of the photos. Amazing that none of the crew were incidentally hurt by some splintered fiberglass, a flailing cable, or god knows what else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverk Posted May 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 It was very fortunate it wasn't worse. Navigator departed Mazatlan on schedule minus one lifeboat. Glad I'm not assigned to that boat. Wait a minute I AM assigned to that boat! WAAAYTOOO, twangster and Cactus527 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 7 hours ago, steverk said: I AM assigned to that boat! raft Fixed it for you. Cactus527, 4ensic, michaelp1446 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 9 hours ago, bobroo said: Because the entire propeller assembly is missing from the lifeboat, I’m thinking the propeller got snagged on the big, heavy cable (blue arrow) upon decent. Apparently the lifeboat was completely clear of the ship as there is no visible damage to Navigator in any of the photos. Amazing that none of the crew were incidentally hurt by some splintered fiberglass, a flailing cable, or god knows what else. I think I saw the propellor, but not the shroud/rudder that normally surrounds it. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobroo Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 Ya' know @twangster that is just a plain weird photo isn't it? The way the water sits, the hull damage, and the undersized, incorrect color propeller that is missing it's housing. Compared to the other photo, there are so many differences when you zoom in and compare them. Let's be thankful nobody was hurt and Navigator did not receive so much as a scrape. Navi will certainly have an additional inflatable lifeboat or two that will enable it to continue sailing. And, submersed watercraft can be made to operate again. But getting this lifeboat seaworthy again is a huge job. The infestation of saltwater in the engine, wiring, and electrical components takes a while to drain and generally replace. It's a big job. Maybe an experienced boat owner can chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 9 hours ago, steverk said: Wait a minute I AM assigned to that boat! Not to worry. I heard that if your lifeboat is disabled they just re-assign you to one of the loops of the rope on the outside of one of the other lifeboats. Easy Peasy ! Cactus527, steverk, teddy and 3 others 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireclan Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 Gosh, having a less than stellar dining room experience due to new, inexperienced crew now seems inconsequential compared to a life boat being deployed in an emergency BEFORE I get on it. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 41 minutes ago, fireclan said: Gosh, having a less than stellar dining room experience due to new, inexperienced crew now seems inconsequential compared to a life boat being deployed in an emergency BEFORE I get on it. But the goal of the lifeboat is to get you away from an emergency, not get you into one. fireclan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 51 minutes ago, fireclan said: Gosh, having a less than stellar dining room experience due to new, inexperienced crew now seems inconsequential compared to a life boat being deployed in an emergency BEFORE I get on it. Better before rather than after. steverk and fireclan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crown and Anchor Life Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 13 hours ago, steverk said: It was very fortunate it wasn't worse. Navigator departed Mazatlan on schedule minus one lifeboat. Glad it all worked out and you're able to enjoy the rest of your trip! steverk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 I wonder what the actual maritime rule is for a situation like this. Were they still in compliance with the 37.5% rule (each side of the ship must have enough lifeboat capacity for 37.5% of those onboard?) If not, did they need a waiver to continue on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJones Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 20 hours ago, DoomSlayer said: Or maybe just cover it with some Duct Tape. Worked for our lunar rovers. Flex tape might be better for water? DoomSlayer and CrimsonCruiser 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapTime Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 While In the port of Mazatlan Mexico. The crew were preforming drills and a lifeboat fell into the sea you can read the letter attached for the details We left the lifeboat behind and the captain assured everyone that we had plenty left. I didn’t see it happen I was on a excursion but spoke with a guest and would did and they we shook up a bit Glad no one got hurt Liftedhands 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacharius Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 18 hours ago, Fr8Train56 said: the captain assured everyone that we had plenty left. Did he look like this? ScottishRobbie, Vancity Cruiser, CrimsonCruiser and 7 others 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Sitting in San Pedro, waiting... CrimsonCruiser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 So Amazon does deliver new lifeboats! Cactus527, CrimsonCruiser, PPPJJ-GCVAB and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverk Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Glad to see they are getting it fixed. I wonder what the internal investigation showed for the root cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Mazatlan called. They fixed the lifeboat. Good as new. WAAAYTOOO, ScottishRobbie, Cactus527 and 5 others 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Just seen on ebay: used lifeboat. Not afraid of heights. Minor cosmetic damage from fall. teddy, PPPJJ-GCVAB, Cactus527 and 3 others 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 To make matters worse the bridge crew will have to look at it all day long. PPPJJ-GCVAB and FloatyBoaty 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 After some maneuvering and an inspection by a drug dog, Mazatlan gave Navigator her trash back. The helipad is officially closed.. WAAAYTOOO and PPPJJ-GCVAB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Looks like it went into the crew area behind the helipad. Carlos A. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, twangster said: Looks like it went into the crew area behind the helipad. That's the new lifeboat onboarding training area. The boat will have to wear a mask for 5 days. Cactus527 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 "Maintenance in Progress" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Was that the SS Humpty Dumpty and they're trying to put it back together again? PPPJJ-GCVAB, WAAAYTOOO and sammy79 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 Day 6 on Navigator returning to Los Angeles. Inside joke perhaps? billdauterive, WAAAYTOOO, CrimsonCruiser and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarney Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 I wonder if the cabin that suddenly lost their "obstructed view" designation was billed the difference in fares? LOL Ryan79, fireclan, CrimsonCruiser and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Or if the occupant demanded OBC because they were "promised" an obstructed view. CrimsonCruiser, bcarney and PPPJJ-GCVAB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverk Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 Update on this topic: I'm on Explorer and they did a similar lifeboat drill. The 2nd officer was watching, so I asked about the Navigator incident. He was familiar with it as the incident and corrective actions were shared with every cruise line worldwide. If I understand correctly, the mechanics for the davits on Navigator went behind a "ceiling." I think this would better be described as a decorative panel, but he called it a ceiling. This made inspection of that portion of the mechanism impossible to inspect. Over time it corroded and failed catastrophically. They have removed the ceilings and now inspect monthly for problems. Cactus527, tingtang, FionaMG and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 That seems an obvious design flaw or poor inspection protocol. One or the other. Cactus527 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWaits Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 14 hours ago, smokeybandit said: That seems an obvious design flaw or poor inspection protocol. One or the other. Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverk Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 20 hours ago, smokeybandit said: That seems an obvious design flaw or poor inspection protocol. One or the other. The point is that it has been identified and fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 59 minutes ago, steverk said: The point is that it has been identified and fixed. Yes, but why it was missed to begin with will be a case study for future QC development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat8635 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Oh that's what emergency release means...no wonder they said it.didnt need cleaning or paint. Dang it. seruosly it will be interesting To see if mechanical or human failure! Human means more training mechanical could mean lots of retrofitting and maybe cancelations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverk Posted January 30 Author Report Share Posted January 30 34 minutes ago, pat8635 said: Oh that's what emergency release means...no wonder they said it.didnt need cleaning or paint. Dang it. seruosly it will be interesting To see if mechanical or human failure! Human means more training mechanical could mean lots of retrofitting and maybe cancelations... According to the 2nd officer, it was mechanical failure due to undiscovered corrosion to the equipment. By removing the cover, or ceiling as he called it, they made it possible to inspect the equipment on a regular basis. That should solve the issue. Keep in mind that navigator has been in service for more than 20 years. It took that long for this to become a problem. Monthly inspection should be more than sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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