twangster Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, cruisellama said: Here's an encouraging story - NOT! https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/19/travel/coronavirus-cruises.html If you look at the NYT reported timeline, its going to be 90+ days after the specs are delivered before a US cruise could go. There's a 30 day notification of desire to sail, then if the test cruise is successful, an 60 period allowed for certificate to sail is granted. Likely 120 days once the balloon goes up, taking into account 1 month of test cruises (my hypothesis). So if specs delivered 1 Apr - August start possible if all goes well. That's predicated on the CSO remaining unchanged. I think the CSO will be revised to reflect vaccinations that are now available that were not when the CSO was put together on a cocktail napkin in bar in under 30 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBRSKI Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Im Just happy they realized that something had to be done to get those ships sailing again with our crazy cruise family. It’s a win win for everyone and the cdc can go pound sand. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 "Cruise executives say they expect the C.D.C. to issue the technical requirements soon." By "soon" I assume the CDC means "by the end of the year" emmef 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landry_TX Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Have they said anything about shore excursions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Landry_TX said: Have they said anything about shore excursions? Not the CDC, but the Safe Sail Panel recommends cruise line directed / controlled tours with "safe" vendors. Its part of the long list of back to sail recommendations provided to the gov't last year. MSC has exercised that a similar protocol in their excursion requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: "Cruise executives say they expect the C.D.C. to issue the technical requirements soon." By "soon" I assume the CDC means "by the end of the year" Any day now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 hours ago, AlmondFarmer said: Anybody else checking flights to Nassau June 4th? It looks like first sailing is June 12 jticarruthers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Matt said: It looks like first sailing is June 12 Any indication that they're all 7-day cruises? I'm trying to do the math on July cruise dates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Zacharius said: This is great news for those who want to travel, but man, I am really curious to see how Nassau handles itself as a cruise origin point. That whole port area seems like it will be a headache-and-a-half to deal with as an originating passenger. I would have to pound a few beers at Pirate Republic before dealing with that. What if you just check in on the app and get on-board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXcruzer Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Any indication that they're all 7-day cruises? I'm trying to do the math on July cruise dates The FAQ document only mentions "7 day roundtrip" in the verbage. So i guess every Saturday, makes the figuring easier. https://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/Deployment/2021_2022/AD_FAQs.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 So.... if Adventure is doing this big restart in Nassau (and not from Florida) can we assume all June cruises are kaput? Why go through all the motions of launching a restart from Nassau in June, if June Florida cruises are still possible? WAAAYTOOO, RBRSKI and sk8erguy1978 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXcruzer Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, twangster said: So.... if Adventure is doing this big restart in Nassau (and not from Florida) can we assume all June cruises are kaput? Why go through all the motions of launching a restart from Nassau in June, if June Florida cruises are still possible? seems to be a realistic assumption Landry_TX and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOasis Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, twangster said: Any day now I hope so. I just read the NYT article and even though it was published today the information contained within the article is already dated. The information within the article some of which comes from the CDC goes back to October when the no sail order was lifted. Just an example of how far behind the CDC, in the article the CDC is still talking about requiring crew members be tested. All cruise lines have stated they will require all crew members be tested, many have said they will require crew members be vaccinated, if they combine the testing requirement with the a vaccination requirement that should cover it. With the US scheduled to hit 100 million vaccine doses administered today Friday the CDC needs to catch up. The guidelines issued back in October were based on testing alone not testing and vaccines combined. By the time we get to July or August the US could have administered over 200 million doses of the vaccine the CDC should realize there is no need to require cruise lines wait 30 days to do a test sailing then wait another 60 days after the test sailing for approval to resumes some type of normal operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBRSKI Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 I’m done with CDC. Let’s have a Friday cheers for Royal and the Bahamian Government. I don’t know how to add one of those pictures. Someone help me out please. Lol jticarruthers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBRSKI Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Was looking for a place to retire in 7 years. Bahamas looking good. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, RBRSKI said: I’m done with CDC. Let’s have a Friday cheers for Royal and the Bahamian Government. I don’t know how to add one of those pictures. Someone help me out please. Lol I think everyone is done with the CDC. Unfortunately, while this is GREAT news, it is only one ship and cruise lines are completely reliant on the US based cruise market for survival Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda R Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, twangster said: So.... if Adventure is doing this big restart in Nassau (and not from Florida) can we assume all June cruises are kaput? Why go through all the motions of launching a restart from Nassau in June, if June Florida cruises are still possible? I do not think there is any chance of any cruises in the US to be starting in June. Too much to go thru with CDC still that takes time. twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBRSKI Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Do u think They will open up reservation early for Crown and Anchor folks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmef Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 JLMoran, em.down.the.rabbit.hole and twangster 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, twangster said: That's predicated on the CSO remaining unchanged. I think the CSO will be revised to reflect vaccinations that are now available that were not when the CSO was put together on a cocktail napkin in bar in under 30 minutes. Hope you're right. I'm pretty cynical with the moving goal posts, or more accurate, they haven't erected the goal post yet. 120 day pre-US departure timeline would be a padded estimate of when you consider crews callback, inoculations (waiting), training, test cruises, request to sail permit, then certification to sail permit. Probably will need to wait for the correct ink to print the certificates which will require another 90 days of deliberations. steverk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 News coverage: https://www.wesh.com/article/royal-caribbean-marks-2021-return-to-caribbean-with-cruises-from-the-bahamas/35888095 Port Canaveral is taking the position that Royal can learn while operating from Nassau and bring those lessons to Port Canaveral once the CDC comes around and allows cruising in the US. SpeedNoodles and JLMoran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 18 hours ago, smokeybandit said: I would imagine fares will be sky high for these cruises I would look at flying into another caribbean island to reduce the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 I'd look to Air2Sea for possible best fares. The airlines have revenue engines that monitor demand and adjust pricing to reflect demand, even if no bookings occur. It's been reported that airline prices jumped just from cruisers looking to see what flights are available. Air2Sea has locked in contracts and seats like they did for Barbados. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Air2Sea still has the European sailings listed for Adventure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 16 hours ago, smokeybandit said: Any indication that they're all 7-day cruises? I'm trying to do the math on July cruise dates Yes, I believe so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 15 hours ago, twangster said: So.... if Adventure is doing this big restart in Nassau (and not from Florida) can we assume all June cruises are kaput? I'd say for USA, probably. But Europe is still in play, especially England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jticarruthers Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 18 hours ago, SteveinSC said: Anyone taking bets on @Matt being on the first sailing? Any sign of a blog group on the first sailing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jticarruthers Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 16 hours ago, twangster said: So.... if Adventure is doing this big restart in Nassau (and not from Florida) can we assume all June cruises are kaput? Why go through all the motions of launching a restart from Nassau in June, if June Florida cruises are still possible? NCL cancelling june is a strong indicator they all will. I'm feeling pessimistic on my July Navigator but suddenly super optimistic on a June Adventure ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jticarruthers Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 17 hours ago, smokeybandit said: "Cruise executives say they expect the C.D.C. to issue the technical requirements soon." By "soon" I assume the CDC means "by the end of the year" Which year 2021 or 2022 ? JLMoran and Mike.s 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Note that for kids 10 and under, they do not need a negative PCR test to get the Bahamas health visa. My big concern is you need a test w/in 5 days if arriving, but you need to start your visa application at least 48 hours before arriving. That's a concerningly small window of time to get a PCR test result back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 48 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: My big concern is you need a test w/in 5 days if arriving, but you need to start your visa application at least 48 hours before arriving. That's a concerningly small window of time to get a PCR test result back. I suspect the Bahamas (and Royal Caribbean) would be eager to optimize their health visa requirements to make it work. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jticarruthers Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, twangster said: I suspect the Bahamas (and Royal Caribbean) would be eager to optimize their health visa requirements to make it work. Also I don't know for a fact but I suspect when you really look at it there is a network in place between hotels/airlines/airports, etc. to get people tested and moved through the system. I was starting to look at a Cozumel trip in June (I am now planning to arrive in Cozumel by ship not by plane ... it will be an Adventure ) and it seemed like there was constant reference to testing being arranged by various parties for you, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 @twangster Thank you for the clarification on the vaccine/neg test. Has the list of sailings been published? I understand that bookings can start on 3/24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jticarruthers Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 I havent seen a clear list but my thoughts based on references made are: Seven night sailings starting on Saturday June 12th. Stops are CocoCay (2 day, i havent seen it said back to back but seen it assumed); Grand Bahama and Cozumel. Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Baked Alaska said: @twangster Thank you for the clarification on the vaccine/neg test. Has the list of sailings been published? I understand that bookings can start on 3/24. Not that I've seen. No "test" loads either but the weekend isn't over. Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 The ironic thing for me is I'll be on vacation when booking for this cruise opens. A vacation that was SUPPOSED to be a southern Caribbean cruise. cruisellama, WAAAYTOOO and twangster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 18 hours ago, JasonOasis said: I hope so. I just read the NYT article and even though it was published today the information contained within the article is already dated. The information within the article some of which comes from the CDC goes back to October when the no sail order was lifted. Just an example of how far behind the CDC, in the article the CDC is still talking about requiring crew members be tested. All cruise lines have stated they will require all crew members be tested, many have said they will require crew members be vaccinated, if they combine the testing requirement with the a vaccination requirement that should cover it. With the US scheduled to hit 100 million vaccine doses administered today Friday the CDC needs to catch up. The guidelines issued back in October were based on testing alone not testing and vaccines combined. By the time we get to July or August the US could have administered over 200 million doses of the vaccine the CDC should realize there is no need to require cruise lines wait 30 days to do a test sailing then wait another 60 days after the test sailing for approval to resumes some type of normal operation. Agree with your assertions, but based upon observations of that agency, there hasn't been any forward movement in support of the cruise industry. I'm not claiming its maliciousness or dislike of an industry, but " hyper-risk" aversion. Like a parent too fearful to let their kids ride a bike because they might fall. As you highlighted the number of inoculations, risk is greatly mitigated. In fact, sailing with an inoculated crew and guest compliment is like using "training wheels". WAAAYTOOO and jticarruthers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 I thing I noted in the FAQ... American breakfast is free from room service. Normally only a continental breakfast is free. emmef and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skystewy Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 So does this mean that all other cruises are probably canceled in June? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, Skystewy said: So does this mean that all other cruises are probably canceled in June? Probably, but I'm not sure this move itself is evidence of that since Adventure will be coming from Europe, not replacing any other American home port departures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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