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Has anyone heard what Royal Caribbean plans to do with smoking in the casinos when cruising starts again?  Or, will they follow Celebrity's lead and be non-smoking?

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I hope they Ban smoking. I hate smoking.. a Few Casinos in Vegas have banned smoking but most have not and they require a mask except for when people are drinking or smoking.. so who knows its anyone's guess.. 

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8 hours ago, krhardy said:

If masks become required in public spaces, I would think they would almost have to eliminate smoking in the casinos.

As a smoker i have said previously on these threads that smoking in casinos should be stopped, however if we are just saying masks must be worn in all public spaces then that would include Restaurants and bars! And this is the problem finding a fine line that keeps everyone happy in this new normal. 

Ok we ban smoking in casinos ! Im ok with this but what about the guy who doesnt smoke yet he has been onshore all day not adhereing to any covid rules and turns up in Casino or MDR still wearing the same clothes from that days outing that he's been sweating into?

No masks while you eat or drink and god knows whats flying about the air but its ok cause hes not smoking! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ray said:

As a smoker i have said previously on these threads that smoking in casinos should be stopped, however if we are just saying masks must be worn in all public spaces then that would include Restaurants and bars! And this is the problem finding a fine line that keeps everyone happy in this new normal. 

Ok we ban smoking in casinos ! Im ok with this but what about the guy who doesnt smoke yet he has been onshore all day not adhereing to any covid rules and turns up in Casino or MDR still wearing the same clothes from that days outing that he's been sweating into?

No masks while you eat or drink and god knows whats flying about the air but its ok cause hes not smoking! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Totally agree its two separate issues.. I personally just think smoking in casinos should be banned period not because of Masks or Covid but because its harmful to other people's health.. 

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42 minutes ago, AGSLC5 said:

Totally agree its two separate issues.. I personally just think smoking in casinos should be banned period not because of Masks or Covid but because its harmful to other people's health.. 

As i have said i totally agree however point i was making is that people turning up in MDR wearing the same clothes they have had on for 2 days are potentially just as harmful than 2nd hand smoke in the casino. 

And yes i have witnessed this on FOTS when a female wore the same short/top outfit 2 days running! She even did the zumba class at poolside and went onshore, in todays world who knows what bacteria would be on her outfit that could not just be harmful but could potentially be fatal 

 

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12 hours ago, Ray said:

As a smoker i have said previously on these threads that smoking in casinos should be stopped, however if we are just saying masks must be worn in all public spaces then that would include Restaurants and bars! And this is the problem finding a fine line that keeps everyone happy in this new normal. 

Ok we ban smoking in casinos ! Im ok with this but what about the guy who doesnt smoke yet he has been onshore all day not adhereing to any covid rules and turns up in Casino or MDR still wearing the same clothes from that days outing that he's been sweating into?

No masks while you eat or drink and god knows whats flying about the air but its ok cause hes not smoking! 

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You're right...it's a never ending Pandora's Box. Currently, the Florida theme parks allow masks to be removed if you are stationary and eating/drinking (no wandering around and munching your popcorn at the moment). That might be a similar rule that the cruise lines make. Unfortunately, I don't think there is a perfect answer...but I've said to my husband at least a zillion times, I am so glad I'm not the one who has to make these decisions b/c no matter what is decided, someone is going to be unhappy.

Personally, I'll just be happy to get back on a ship...whenever that finally happens, I will follow whatever rules they want (as long as it isn't illegal, immoral, or fattening...OK, we can remove fattening for the context of a cruise 😉 )! 🚢

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 7/26/2020 at 4:04 AM, Ray said:

As i have said i totally agree however point i was making is that people turning up in MDR wearing the same clothes they have had on for 2 days are potentially just as harmful than 2nd hand smoke in the casino. 

And yes i have witnessed this on FOTS when a female wore the same short/top outfit 2 days running! She even did the zumba class at poolside and went onshore, in todays world who knows what bacteria would be on her outfit that could not just be harmful but could potentially be fatal 

 

In Canada in general our land based casinos don't allow for smoking rights. This was phased out a long time ago. When I go to vegas it's a different ball game. I feel in light of this global pandemic they should phase out smoking in casinos. 

Also outfit wise yeah wearing the same for two days is never a good idea. If course if one wants better dressed class then sail on Regeant 7 Seas or Viking or even Holland America. No family demographic...a boomer crowd and of course more formal attire. Not my cup of tea having been on the non family lines or lines that don't cater to families.

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With regards to clothing I think that many of us try to pack as light as possible, so that means reusing clothes, and mixing and matching. I don't know if spraying your stuff with Febreeze or something more "natura;" in between uses would be a viable solution, but... maybe?

I'm all for smoke free casinos. I'm also wondering if chips are going to get phased out in favour of touch screens that can be easily wiped down in between uses. I rather like the feel of chips in my hand, but I can understand if they take that away.

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57 minutes ago, KWong said:

With regards to clothing I think that many of us try to pack as light as possible, so that means reusing clothes, and mixing and matching. I don't know if spraying your stuff with Febreeze or something more "natura;" in between uses would be a viable solution, but... maybe?

I'm all for smoke free casinos. I'm also wondering if chips are going to get phased out in favour of touch screens that can be easily wiped down in between uses. I rather like the feel of chips in my hand, but I can understand if they take that away.

Without chips, games like Craps & Roulette officially suck. Also, what about rolling the dice? At some point there has to be a line in the sand regarding the overall experience. If I wanted to play video roulette or video craps it can be done on my phone on my couch. Part of the experience is the casino itself. A beer at the casino bar while catching part of a game on the TV or watching a hot table and deciding where to put my money down. The experience will change but it’s just a question of how much? 

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I want the smoking to go away...but if it does then the casino will take more money from me.....

As far as the clothes thing goes........COVID doesn't linger on fabrics, but other bacteria does. Which you would mostly have to be really close to get...unless it is bacteria that causes an odor. I was once on a tour group with a lady who packed wrong. She only brought one pair of leggings, she wore them everyday, and to every activity. She never smelled but after the fifth day, she sheepishly informed us that she washed them every night as soon as she returned to the room. But I get it, I don't want to smell smoke or funk.

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I agree with you about craps and roulette. Hard to enjoy craps without rolling the dice. But they can probably utilize a small UV light to sanitize 5 dice. And you take away from the experience if you're not tossing bets everywhere on the table. 
 

And yet it makes too much sense to take the physical chip out of circulation for health and safety precautions. 

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2 minutes ago, KWong said:

I agree with you about craps and roulette. Hard to enjoy craps without rolling the dice. But they can probably utilize a small UV light to sanitize 5 dice. And you take away from the experience if you're not tossing bets everywhere on the table. 
 

And yet it makes too much sense to take the physical chip out of circulation for health and safety precautions. 

Cruise casino's while 'fun' at sea don't really yield much in the way of returns. I find land casinos allow one to yield higher returns overall. Plus the smoking is a big turn off, which is how I don't get the logic behind smoking in casinos. Canada outlawed this a long time ago aka indoor smoking including Casinos but in the US its a different story. The slots are also generally more popular than the table games. Lots of casino type cruises out of Hong Kong though - will be interesting to see how those turn out later in the year.

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8 minutes ago, crisgold52 said:

Cruise casino's while 'fun' at sea don't really yield much in the way of returns. I find land casinos allow one to yield higher returns overall. Plus the smoking is a big turn off, which is how I don't get the logic behind smoking in casinos. Canada outlawed this a long time ago aka indoor smoking including Casinos but in the US its a different story. The slots are also generally more popular than the table games. Lots of casino type cruises out of Hong Kong though - will be interesting to see how those turn out later in the year.

Like I said, I love the smoke free casinos. Nice to walk through the Fallsview and not choke on a haze of smoke.

In terms of returns, you're correct. But I'd guess that many of the cruisers are very casual gamblers or relatively low stakes players like myself. In both cases, a slight increase in house edge isn't significant. If you're dropping 3 digits or more per bet, different story.

And I despise slots. If given the choice between losing money at a table or in front of a machine, give me the table every time. At least I can chat it up with other people there.

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11 minutes ago, KWong said:

Like I said, I love the smoke free casinos. Nice to walk through the Fallsview and not choke on a haze of smoke.

In terms of returns, you're correct. But I'd guess that many of the cruisers are very casual gamblers or relatively low stakes players like myself. In both cases, a slight increase in house edge isn't significant. If you're dropping 3 digits or more per bet, different story.

And I despise slots. If given the choice between losing money at a table or in front of a machine, give me the table every time. At least I can chat it up with other people there.

Agree the slot machines are mind numbing but I have done as well or better on machines then tables. Higher stakes play though for sure as I can’t hit a button all night betting .50 cents a push and ending the night with a cramp in my finger! Average $10 per slot pull and minimum $100/hand on table is more exciting for me personally (and the players club perks are decent). 

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34 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said:

+2. Dan and I both hate slots. We will avoid the casino entirely if all they offer is slots.

Well as many of our retired neighbours have told us, they prefer slots over tables because with slots one can play multiple lines often times for less than a dollar. Sure the wins may be smaller compared to table games but the risk is less. IOn table games the going bet for blackjack is $10, and one can easily spend a lot in one sitting for just ten rounds. So generally from an economic stand point and for the thrill of playing a semi arcade type game, slots are the answer over a table game where one can lose everything in one sitting.

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Low stakes is definitely a thing that sucks people into playing slots. And if that's a major factor for someone, who am I to dissuade them from playing?

Me, I just can't do it  

 

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