bobroo Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias/what-etias_en Currently priced at only 7 Euros for three years, but this is how a visa extortion thing starts. Shari 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 This was discussed on a thread weeks ago. As was pointed out on previous thread Europe is just catching up with the US who have charged visitors for travel visas ( ESTA ) for years. Mike.s, Ryan79, Rackham and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhee Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 I wonder how long it takes to get the Visa once applied for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 Probably minutes as I would imagine it would be similar to the US ESTA just not the same stupid questions. FionaMG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaMG Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 16 hours ago, bobroo said: https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias/what-etias_en Currently priced at only 7 Euros for three years, but this is how a visa extortion thing starts. It's not a visa, it's an electronic travel authorisation, exactly like the ESTA that the US has been operating for years, as @Ray pointed out. Also, the US charges $21 for an ESTA and it's only valid for two years, so you're getting a bargain. Zacharius, KJones, ChessE4 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carotthat Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 5:24 PM, bobroo said: Currently priced at only 7 Euros for three years, but this is how a visa extortion thing starts. Excuse me? Calling this an extortion is kind a bummer, as we europeans had to pay for several years your ESTA fees, and even more since the raise last year! So please, be fair. Carlos A., ScottishRobbie, Heymarco and 7 others 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo2slick Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 Does this include if your cruise ship visits a port in one of these countries? teddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOasis Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Yo2slick said: Does this include if your cruise ship visits a port in one of these countries? If you are an American and you are traveling to the European Union starting in 2024 regardless of your mode of transportation to the European Union you will need to have a ESTA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 It's nothing but a tourist tax. No big deal WAAAYTOOO and 4ensic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, JasonOasis said: If you are an American and you are traveling to the European Union starting in 2024 regardless of your mode of transportation to the European Union you will need to have a ESTA. Not just American! This will apply to any country thats not in the EU or their approved list, so even UK residents will need to apply for this. teddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingee Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 and crucially for all those who voted for Brexit, Brits will have to pay £6 each visa waiver from 2024. Thanks guys! Al Miller and Ray 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/26/2023 at 5:32 PM, Bingee said: and crucially for all those who voted for Brexit, Brits will have to pay £6 each visa waiver from 2024. Thanks guys! Things could definitely have been handled better but it is what it is now! just got to get on with it and wear coats with very deep pockets to smuggle back more than the 1 Ltr of alcohol allowed lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckruetze Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 10:04 AM, FionaMG said: It's not a visa, it's an electronic travel authorisation, exactly like the ESTA that the US has been operating for years, as @Ray pointed out. Also, the US charges $21 for an ESTA and it's only valid for two years, so you're getting a bargain. Sadly we are so slow with regards to new politics over here in Europe. I hope the travel authorization also asks for facebook usernames and other useful stuff like that. Oh and one day we will also get really long queues at the security at airports and if Europe is really brave we might even ask passengers to take of the shoes at the airport security. And maybe one day (probably not during our life time) we might even introduce an organization like the TSA who could randomly confiscate phones or laptops of arriving passengers. ScottishRobbie, 4ensic, TakeMeSomewhere and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 31 minutes ago, ckruetze said: Oh and one day we will also get really long queues at the security at airports and if Europe is really brave we might even ask passengers to take of the shoes at the airport security. The above has been around in Europe for years! My wife always has to ask if the socks i have on have any holes in them as she doesn't want to be embarrassed at customs when i take my shoes off FionaMG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckruetze Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Ray said: The above has been around in Europe for years! My wife always has to ask if the socks i have on have any holes in them as she doesn't want to be embarrassed at customs when i take my shoes off Ok, I have never had to take me shoes of at any European airport in the 12 countries I have flown from (just had to count in my head) but I think 12 is correct. Just asked my wife and she confirms it she had never taken of here shoes at European airports. Maybe it depends on the shoes over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 23 minutes ago, ckruetze said: Ok, I have never had to take me shoes of at any European airport in the 12 countries I have flown from (just had to count in my head) but I think 12 is correct. Just asked my wife and she confirms it she had never taken of here shoes at European airports. Maybe it depends on the shoes over here. Had to do it in Aberdeen, London Heathrow both before and after Brexit on every flight until this year, also Copenhagen, Budapest and Milan over the years. Back in March on way to NYC i was able to go through customs wearing my trainers ( sneekers) which is all i ever wear without having to take them off for the first time however others wearing shoes with bigger soles or boots had to remove their footwear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaMG Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ckruetze said: Ok, I have never had to take me shoes of at any European airport in the 12 countries I have flown from (just had to count in my head) but I think 12 is correct. Just asked my wife and she confirms it she had never taken of here shoes at European airports. Maybe it depends on the shoes over here. Saw it at Bristol too, less than a fortnight ago. And they had one of those scanner things you get at US airports too. I didn't have to do either; I guess they didn’t think a 5'0" 60-something little old lady in flats was worth bothering about. Curiously enough, exactly the same happened (or didn’t, depending on your perspective) at Newark earlier this year. Ray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckruetze Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Interesting. I have several flights a year out of Heathrow. Sometimes several per month and I really never had that. It must be the shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heymarco Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 Pure politics, US started this for EU tourists so EU responded for American tourists. This news story is years old, just finally going into effect. Thankfully I can travel both ways and not pay for any of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Heymarco said: Pure politics, US started this for EU tourists so EU responded for American tourists. This news story is years old, just finally going into effect. Thankfully I can travel both ways and not pay for any of it. Actually the US implemented this in 2008 as part of the recommendations of the 9/11 commission Act and it's not just aimed at EU tourists, the majority of the world must apply for an Esta. The same applies to the EU version which is not as you state aimed at US tourists but most of the world including the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavvy Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 Please don't call it a visa it's not!. A visa is something that requires giving your passport to an embassy. This is an electronic approval to visit the Schengen area. It's a copy of something the USA has required of countries in the visa waiver program for many many years. Canada has the same system as will UK when it can get it's act together ( probably never or after £2 bill overspend) Calling it a visa is highly misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavvy Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 16 hours ago, Heymarco said: Pure politics, US started this for EU tourists so EU responded for American tourists. This news story is years old, just finally going into effect. Thankfully I can travel both ways and not pay for any of it. It was brought in for all countries that take part in the visa waiver program not just Europe lots of others take part too. Normally it's countries the USA have good diplomatic relationships with and are thought of as safe USA cbp run your name through all its databases before making a decision on an approval. It actually helps keep both aircraft and the USA safe and prevents people who would be denied entry getting on an aircraft in the first place...saving USA tax dollars with the mess that can create. This is a good thing for everyone the cost is minimal and helps keep people and aircraft safe. tingtang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOasis Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just announced yesterday the European Union EU will once again delay the launch of their European Travel Information and Authorization System ETIAS until at least mid-2025. In laymen's terms all that means is American's will NOT need a visa to travel to Europe in 2024. https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/etias-europe-tourist-taxes-explained/index.html teddy, Lovetocruise2002, WAAAYTOOO and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, JasonOasis said: In laymen's terms all that means is American's will NOT need a visa to travel to Europe in 2024. Asking for a friend...in laymen's terms, that means Canadians won't need one either right? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Asking for a friend...in laymen's terms, that means Canadians won't need one either right? lol Roll out of this program had been delayed until 2025 so no one ( anyone outside of the EU ) can apply for it until then. Lovetocruise2002 and tingtang 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOasis Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 18 hours ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Asking for a friend...in laymen's terms, that means Canadians won't need one either right? lol Sorry I didn't mean to forget about our friends to the North.... We love the Canadians LOL Lovetocruise2002 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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