Vlad Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Hey, keep wondering when Europe 2023 will be up. They were saying this week of the 6th... Need to find best option for September... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 The travel agent weekly call with Royal happens Wednesdays at noon, so maybe we'll hear soon or they'll suddenly appear today. Could be later in the week though, no one knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted December 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Hopefully soon. Want to see which of the bigger ships will be there. Especially oasis and quantum classes. Too bad, I've missed on Wonder... Could not make it for 2022. And it's probably won't be there in 2023, maybe will be moved to Asia, like originally planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharla Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 It's "week of", could happen anytime this week. teddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmondFarmer Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Sharla said: It's "week of", could happen anytime this week. Sharla, kindly post something here when you become aware of listings. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Week of Dec. 13 now (Europe) Matt, teddy, Vlad and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmondFarmer Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Double region release next week, nice. Putting my phone and earbuds on charger to prepare. Kathleen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted December 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, twangster said: Week of 12/13 now (Europe) That's nice. But unfortunate... Too much info in single week. But on the other hand, it's better. Between Europe and Caribbean. Would be able to see whole picture. Maybe even book double cruise. Or transatlantic... twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaMG Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Vlad said: Hopefully soon. Want to see which of the bigger ships will be there. Especially oasis and quantum classes. Too bad, I've missed on Wonder... Could not make it for 2022. And it's probably won't be there in 2023, maybe will be moved to Asia, like originally planned. In 2023, the Oasis class ship in Europe will be Symphony as she is due for her 5-year dry dock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted December 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, FionaMG said: In 2023, the Oasis class ship in Europe will be Symphony as she is due for her 5-year dry dock. Would you know, if dry dock usually in the spring before the season starts or in fall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaMG Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Vlad said: Would you know, if dry dock usually in the spring before the season starts or in fall? I'm not sure. I know for a fact that Harmony did hers in spring this year and Allure was scheduled for spring of last year, although that got a bit messed up due to covid. However, I seem to remember Oasis did hers in fall (not 100% sure). Vlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Vlad said: Would you know, if dry dock usually in the spring before the season starts or in fall? It will be when the shipyard has availability. The shipyard is owned and run by another company. They service all sorts of ships from cargo, tanker, container and passenger ships. All ships have to dry dock on a periodic basis so dry dock space in a shipyard can at times be difficult to reserve. If the shipyard has availability in the spring but not in the fall, the dry dock will occur in the spring. If the shipyard has availability in fall but not in the spring, it will be in the fall. Dry docks are for technical marine maintenance under the waterline. A dry dock does not mean she will get new guest features added. Many cruise ships who have dry docked recently realized no changes to guest areas because that is not why ships go into dry dock. Anthem of the Seas was scheduled to enter dry dock last year before the pandemic shutdown the industry. She was not going to receive any guest areas updates because she is a new ship and doesn't need any guest area updates. I highly doubt Symphony will receive any guest area updates when she dry docks because she is also a new ship and she doesn't need any guest areas updates. Consequently Symphony's dry dock date, spring or fall, is irrelevant to the cruising public. Vlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 20 hours ago, twangster said: Week of Dec. 13 now (Europe) Thank you for sharing. This means I can stop checking all the time for a bit. twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan adams Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 9:11 AM, twangster said: Week of Dec. 13 now (Europe) Is the release for Caribbean 2023 still this week? Any rumors of when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmondFarmer Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 I have a friend sailing on Oasis who asked next cruise agent this morning. He was told Europe will release late this week and 7 night Caribbean may be delayed until next week. AspiringCruisePlanner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, Nathan adams said: Is the release for Caribbean 2023 still this week? Any rumors of when? As of this moment it is still on track for this week. Royal did a test load late last week. In the past that was a strong indication it could occur this week. It's only Tuesday. It could happen any day now, or it could get delayed again. Nathan adams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Jan 3rd for Europe now. Happy New Year? AspiringCruisePlanner and AlmondFarmer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaMG Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Why am I not surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted December 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 It's simple... Royal Caribbean have no idea what's going to be in Europe in 2023... Plus don't forget, the contract says that they have full rights to change everything! Both ship and itinerary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtremeGK Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Vlad said: It's simple... Royal Caribbean have no idea what's going to be in Europe in 2023... Plus don't forget, the contract says that they have full rights to change everything! Both ship and itinerary. I think it's far more likely a technical issue than knowing what ships are going where in 2023. The amount of time it takes to organize all of that stuff and coordinate port bookings...that process has to be well underway. They did a test load. Then they postponed last-minute last week for one week, and postponing again now last-minute (which makes sense to push until after the holidays given I'm sure they will be stretched for staffing the next couple of weeks). Given their IT history, this screams to me of a technical issue with loading the full slate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJef Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 does anyone know why the release of 2023 Europe sailings have been delayed? They were originally supposed to be released the week of Dec 6,21 TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 They're delayed to this week. I don't have a firm answer why, but deployments are not a simple task with so many variables (ports, ships, availability, etc) JJef and teddy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 WAAAYTOOO and mugoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJef Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 54 minutes ago, Matt said: They're delayed to this week. I don't have a firm answer why, but deployments are not a simple task with so many variables (ports, ships, availability, etc) thanks Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Smart cruisers have their travel agent on speed dial tonight and into tomorrow. teddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 AlmondFarmer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmondFarmer Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Europe loading up for 2023 KristiZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda R Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 15 hours ago, JJef said: does anyone know why the release of 2023 Europe sailings have been delayed? They were originally supposed to be released the week of Dec 6,21 TIA They are open now JJef 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaMG Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Ok, so who's going where? Tell all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.s Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Completely underwhelmed by the offering from Southampton, it's Groundhog day, same ship, same itineraries, so much for the extra capacity Michael Bayley was confident would happen https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/cruise/royal-caribbean-will-be-adding-capacity-into-the-uk WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Yay!! We got the aft balcony on Explorer we wanted for Venice to Rome in October. edit: screwed up the dates. We’ll be onboard for my wife’s birthday whitsmom, WAAAYTOOO, FionaMG and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 6:22 AM, teddy said: Yay!! We got the aft balcony on Explorer we wanted for Venice to Rome in October. We’ll spend my wife’s birthday in Rome I’ve got a really awesome Airbnb in Rome this October. $200 a night, sleeps 4, 5-7 minute walk to Spanish steps, Trevi fountain. Super host apparently stocks fridge and cupboards with food! I’ll happily pass along link if you’re interested sammy79, teddy and Pattycruise 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 33 minutes ago, Jill said: I’ve got a really awesome Airbnb in Rome this October. $200 a night, sleeps 4, 5-7 minute walk to Spanish steps, Trevi fountain. Super host apparently sticks fridge and cupboards with food! I’ll happily pass along link if you’re interested Oh yes please. thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2022/01/06/royal-caribbean-releases-new-europe-summer-2023-cruises-book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 6 hours ago, FionaMG said: Ok, so who's going where? Tell all... FionaMG and JJef 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkaczano Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Jill said: I’ve got a really awesome Airbnb in Rome this October. $200 a night, sleeps 4, 5-7 minute walk to Spanish steps, Trevi fountain. Super host apparently sticks fridge and cupboards with food! I’ll happily pass along link if you’re interested Jill - can you pass me the link as well? Looking at one of the 2023 Holy Land cruises. WAAAYTOOO and JJef 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaMG Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, teddy said: Fabulous itinerary. I'm sure you're going to love it. teddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeSarah Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 We used our FCC from the CSO in 2020 to rebook on Allure for Europe June 2022, so we are not currently covered under the CWC program. That reservation has since been moved to Wonder and our room was downgraded from a CLS to a JS. I kept the booking in hopes of a better room opening up, but now am wondering if we could move our reservation to 2023 to get our original room category back since the prices are much more reasonable on Symphony. I understand there will likely be fees, but is it possible to do a move with a reservation booked with FCC or do I have to cancel the original reservation and wait for the FCCs to be reissued? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJef Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 4:49 AM, Jill said: I’ve got a really awesome Airbnb in Rome this October. $200 a night, sleeps 4, 5-7 minute walk to Spanish steps, Trevi fountain. Super host apparently sticks fridge and cupboards with food! I’ll happily pass along link if you’re interested I am interested We will be in Rome Sept 2023. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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