smokeybandit Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Independence is using tracelets as it starts up its revenue cruises today WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 It'd be cool if they found a way to integrate FitBits into this process. So many people are already wearing them anyway! USCG Teacher, Kayleigh, cruisellama and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 It's funny how technology decisions come back around. Princess went the medallion route which is very similar to a tracelet or even Apple's AirTag. It's their version of a wow band on the Royal ships that are wow enabled but now the whole fleet has them. Royal declared that wearables are out and leveraging everyone's smartphone was the way to go. Now that decision is working against them, requiring a wearable exclusively for tracking purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: It'd be cool if they found a way to integrate FitBits into this process. So many people are already wearing them anyway! Sounds like a $1M idea.. Contact tracing can also be done with phones, but the FB or other smart watch would be less cumbersome. IRMO12HD and SpeedNoodles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Allowing personal devices is fraught with technical challenges. FB may require a specific bios version to work, or maybe a specific hardware version. Someone upgrades their FB the week before the cruise and now the system doesn't recognize it. MSC uses a FB like smart device but they supply it. It's running their version of code and they control it. Royal may be using phones too, or collecting data from them and feeding that data into the system that the tracelets use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, twangster said: Allowing personal devices is fraught with technical challenges. Yeah. But it'd still be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, twangster said: Allowing personal devices is fraught with technical challenges. FB may require a specific bios version to work, or maybe a specific hardware version. Someone upgrades their FB the week before the cruise and now the system doesn't recognize it. MSC uses a FB like smart device but they supply it. It's running their version of code and they control it. Royal may be using phones too, or collecting data from them and feeding that data into the system that the tracelets use. You forgot the biggest issue. You have to have bluetooth turned on for the tracing app to trace. Who constantly keeps bluetooth on, especially while on vacation? LovetoCruise87 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: You forgot the biggest issue. You have to have bluetooth turned on for the tracing app to trace. Who constantly keeps bluetooth on, especially while on vacation? They trace based on wifi too, much like every retailer who has free wifi in their stores. If a retailer offers free wifi, it's to trace, not out of kindness. I've done RFID in commercial applications for years. 4ensic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 I'll be curious if Mariner has tracelets when it restarts since there were none on her test cruise WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovetoCruise87 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Matt said: I'll be curious if Mariner has tracelets when it restarts since there were none on her test cruise Do you know if Allure has tracelets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 I think it would be easier for them to have just the one system where it’s obvious that the passenger is wearing the tracelet at all times, rather than who has their cell phone with them, or who is still wearing a Fitbit… This would seem to be a simple task for something that may not be a long term requirement. Easier than creating new programs for several devices. Plus, they have to satisfy the CDC…..just sayin’… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, LovetoCruise87 said: Do you know if Allure has tracelets? Have customers on Allure right now that said they are using them BrianB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, LovetoCruise87 said: Do you know if Allure has tracelets? They did on the test cruise, so I'd assume so? https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2021/07/27/allure-of-the-seas-test-cruise-live-blog-day-1 LovetoCruise87 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovetoCruise87 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hagar said: Have customers on Allure right now that said they are using them Ok, thank you for the update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingfromClayton Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Are they able to use it in a manner similar to Disney's Magic Bands, so that it can be used for payment and cabin access? If so, that would be perfect! Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitsmom Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Not everyone carries their phone everywhere. I rarely have mine out of the safe except when back in the cabin or if I want to do a video or takes some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, CrusingfromClayton said: Are they able to use it in a manner similar to Disney's Magic Bands, so that it can be used for payment and cabin access? If so, that would be perfect! Nope, tracelets have a singular focus. Keep in mind you don't have to wear it on your wrist. It just needs to be with you at all times, so you could put it on your belt buckle or attach to a purse. CruisingfromClayton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, CrusingfromClayton said: Are they able to use it in a manner similar to Disney's Magic Bands, so that it can be used for payment and cabin access? If so, that would be perfect! No. Contact tracing only. No "smart" integration features. CruisingfromClayton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, Matt said: Nope, tracelets have a singular focus. Keep in mind you don't have to wear it on your wrist. It just needs to be with you at all times, so you could put it on your belt buckle or attach to a purse. So as long as the tracelet is visible, you're OK? Like you couldn't put it in your pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: So as long as the tracelet is visible, you're OK? Like you couldn't put it in your pocket. Hang it on a belt loop or make it a pendant. Q What is a Tracelet™? Who needs to wear it? What if I cannot wear it on my wrist? A The Tracelet™ is a comfortable, water-resistant, hypoallergenic wearable worn by all guests and crew during the cruise. The Tracelet™ helps us with contact tracing in the unlikely event of an onboard health concern. Therefore, everyone onboard regardless of age, needs to wear it. Should you be unable to wear it on your wrist, we will find another way for you to wear it. Any guest who chooses not to wear the Tracelet™ will be unable to sail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, twangster said: Hang it on a belt loop or make it a pendant. Q What is a Tracelet™? Who needs to wear it? What if I cannot wear it on my wrist? A The Tracelet™ is a comfortable, water-resistant, hypoallergenic wearable worn by all guests and crew during the cruise. The Tracelet™ helps us with contact tracing in the unlikely event of an onboard health concern. Therefore, everyone onboard regardless of age, needs to wear it. Should you be unable to wear it on your wrist, we will find another way for you to wear it. Any guest who chooses not to wear the Tracelet™ will be unable to sail. Right, but I couldn't put it in my pocket, as to assure people that I do in fact have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Right, but I couldn't put it in my pocket, as to assure people that I do in fact have it. Honestly not sure. They don't seem to be used on my next ship or I'd ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitsmom Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Right, but I couldn't put it in my pocket, as to assure people that I do in fact have it. My Sister-In-Law just returned a couple of weeks ago from a Viking cruise around Iceland and they had to carry a round trace thing. They were allowed to put it in a pocket. They had to have it any time they were our of their stateroom. Their cruise was fully vax'd and they had to saliva test daily. No one tested positive on their cruise. Pattycruise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12thman Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Just received an email from my TA whose currently on Ovation and tracelets are being used. Didn't know they light up if you were in close contact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 37 minutes ago, 12thman said: Just received an email from my TA whose currently on Ovation and tracelets are being used. Didn't know they light up if you were in close contact? Periodically they would flash a small light for some reason. 12thman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Matt said: Periodically they would flash a small light for some reason. You activated disco mode SpeedNoodles, em.down.the.rabbit.hole, teddy and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atseau Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 What happens if I lose my tracelet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, atseau said: What happens if I lose my tracelet? I’d imagine this would mean an immediate trip to Guest Services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, atseau said: What happens if I lose my tracelet? The plank! WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, atseau said: What happens if I lose my tracelet? You won't ever have to worry about being quarantined as a close contact? jticarruthers and LovetoCruise87 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Anyone know the technology behind the tracelet? I assume it's something like this https://www.rfidjournal.com/active-rfid-delivers-contact-tracing-without-fixed-infrastructure ...but also I'm curious how the math works out as a "close contact." Is it 15+ minutes of getting pings from the affected person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atseau Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 I Hope RCL enforces all the rules and regulations as good as they enforced the chair hogs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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