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The WHO released the "rare infection from asymptomatic individuals" statement yesterday. In the US, the early release of the CDC July newsletter includes an extensive article on the evidence for spread of the infection by pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic individuals.

The two major health agencies ("experts") are not aligned on how this spreads, so...

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44 minutes ago, Traveler said:

Actually there are some companies that showed very good results creating a breathalyzer test for C19 with very quick results , some are currently in the second testing phase already.

Wonder how that fares come the second day of a cruise where the breathalyzer is picking up the 19 shots of patron. 

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How long until you can go online and get a fake COVID-19 test result printed, just like those fake Emotional Support Animal documents for the airlines?  ?

A 3-day old test proves nothing, and protects no one.  Just another piece in the puzzle of this health-theater charade.  This too shall pass.  

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You can always find facts to support your position, so you can really only tell your truth, not THE truth. I once mentioned the WHO findings to my neighbor, he is an orthopedic surgeon, and he corrected me in saying WHO is worldwide. So basically the reason WHO often conflicts with the CDC is because their findings are based on a world view. Remember they said mask were only for individuals who deal with positive patients, and advocated against mask in the beginning. This was because second and third world countries had no access, they later said mask aide in curbing infections/spreading. They now say asymptomatic people aren't spreaders, just super-spreaders are. But how do we know how any of this is quantified? Oh and then just like that, they backtrack and clarify statements. It's only been 14 weeks, since this thing became a pandemic, much is still unknown. Alaska has a fragile ecosystem, I can understand the caution.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/09/asymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-who/

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On 6/8/2020 at 7:54 PM, Andrew72681 said:

Wasn’t everyone being on top of each other the problem in the Ozarks a couple of weeks ago?

Okay, point taken. BUT! those were party goers from STL and KC, at least that what was reported and the positive COVID case was from STL. Swim trunks and bikinis don't lend themselves very well to hiking, fishing, and hunting. . . ticks where the sun don't shine! AND! They weren't hiking, fishing, or hunting (three very good social distancing activities by nature). 

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34 minutes ago, Baked Alaska said:

Okay, point taken. BUT! those were party goers from STL and KC, at least that what was reported and the positive COVID case was from STL. Swim trunks and bikinis don't lend themselves very well to hiking, fishing, and hunting. . . ticks where the sun don't shine! AND! They weren't hiking, fishing, or hunting (three very good social distancing activities by nature). 

The bad part is that it looks like those people even if from outside are still causing rising numbers throughout the state. 

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I have to chime in now.

@Baked Alaska is correct.

If you aren't aware, my husband was military.  We lived not only in AK for 3 + yrs, but also in KS too.  We would take our camper to the Lake of the Ozarks campground.  I am a Jersey born/raised girl.  Lake of the Ozarks is  not like the Jersey shore.  It is a very condensed area like Lake Mead in NV.  

I do disagree with @Baked Alaska in the fact, that ticks were never an issue for us in AK, in NC/VA and NJ heck yeah!  The big thing in AK is mosquitos.  

NOW on to why I am LMAO this whole idea is insane.  Most cruisers are not flying into AK, they usually do the sailing from Seattle or Vancouver.

Many Alaskans fly to Hawaii for their winter vacation. Are they now saying to AK citizens you need to get tested before you leave to come back home? 

Anchorage and Fairbanks have HUGE military bases. The article states "travelers" flying in.  Well, my family drove from NJ to Seattle, than flew in to Anchorage. My husband was on military orders.  Are they going to give the military an exception?  Are they now going to say to the Dept of Defense that they MUST pay for this test for the entire family or else be quarantined?  FWIW, anyone that has flown in the military understands the acronym MQ (Mission Qual).  The AF cannot afford to pay service members to sit in quarters for 14 days.  They can't say...we will only pay for you the service member to be tested, and you have to pay for your family to be tested using your insurance.  Or how does this really work?  Military pays for him, we, his family are now quarantined for 14 days in the same lodging!  

The fishing industry in AK is big bucks!  The ships typically sail up from Seattle with minimum crew for the crab season starting in Oct.  However, the deck crew will usually fly in.  Watch Deadliest Catch and you will get what I am saying.  

This idea is so insanely stupid and shows how the govt is doing knee jerk reactions.

 

 

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On 6/8/2020 at 5:46 PM, Andrew72681 said:

I just wish I could become the guy who could develop a five minute test. Just imagine, you walk in the door of the terminal, through some Disney-esque people directing gates, and by the time you hit the check in desk it already knows that you are negative, opens the gates and lets you check in. 

While you're at it, develop a TSA-esque wand scanner that screeners can use to determine who are infected or not.

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I am sure there are lots of "official" exceptions. The UK has lots of these. For example if you work in the EU one day a week, you are exempt from the 14 day travel quarantine. Drive a delivery truck, exempt. Essential healthcare, exempt. Military, exempt. I believe some of these new policies are just for show. 

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3 hours ago, Baked Alaska said:

Oops, I meant ticks in the Ozarks. They are bad. Agree with you, never saw them in Alaska! Skeeters, yes. Ticks, no.

My GOD yes!!! Skeeters were HUGE!  We are in an area that has more than enough water around us, and thus have a major issue with skeeters, that being said I have not seen ones as BIG as they have  up in AK! Get a couple of them on you and your are going to have to get a blood infusion!!?

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LMAO

Like I said we camped a lot in AK.  May is horrible, come late June/early July it will be fine.  As summer goes along each new cycle of mosquitoes become smaller, thus, May they are the size of a quarter!  May is also what we call the SPIT month.  It doesn't rain, it spits, which creates a great breeding environment for the mosquitoes.

I still remember waking up in the a.m. and seeing blood splatter with dead mosquitos all around our bed (pop up camper).  First thing that went through my mind, was DANG, that's my blood, I killed them after they bit me! The other memory is we camped with a group of friends (basically 5-6 families), my close friend bought a pith helmet style hat with netting and wore it 24 hrs, including sleeping in it!  I am vain, but I preferred having bites on my face over wearing that!

Back on topic now!

 

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