jgallow81 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 A couple lift and shift questions. 1. Has anyone ever intentionally booked something for this year and immediately lift and shifted because the price was higher next year? 2. when you do does the PIF and cancellation terms move to the new booking of stay with the original dates? Ex. I lift and shift a late November sailing that is refundable deposit and before paid in full. Could I cancel next July with no penalty if I wanted? THANKS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 In honesty I don't know why anyone would do this to answer your first question because there are quite a few rules with L&S. You wouldn't be able to do so right away, But I guess someone could have booked a sailing that they knew wasn't going to happen under the guise of getting FCC or doing a L&S. When you L&S the new PIF date applies, 90 days before the sailing commences. However, if the deposit is refundable then just like the terms state you would have that time to cancel before being penalized. Under CWC all sailing until 2022 April can be cancelled with no penalty even with a NFD you will get 100% FCC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shari3 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 In answer to your first question I did. My travel agent took care of it for me. Saved quite a bit of money. All done within a day. Use MEI. WAAAYTOOO, Neesa, FManke and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinFC Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Is the deadline still Aug 1st to do a L&S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 @DublinFC Yes you can L&S any cruise that is booked before Aug 1st...until Aug 1st. Cancelled cruises have a different L&S date, some have until July 10th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinFC Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ampurp85 said: @DublinFC Yes you can L&S any cruise that is booked before Aug 1st...until Aug 1st. Cancelled cruises have a different L&S date, some have until July 10th. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 So this thread is as close as I can find to my L&S news. I'm hijackin' it. Last week @michelle booked the Royal Suite for me on Empress (11-22-20, 6 night Western Caribbean) with the express intent of L&S'ing it to next year. According to the website, the appropriate cruise to which to shift this would have been a 6 night Western Caribbean cruise on Odyssey. YIPPEE ! That sounds great. Since the appropriate shift from a RS on Empress to another ship is an Owner's Suite, I was happy with that idea. So she called and they stone cold refused to make the shift to Odyssey even though the website showed that sailing as an appropriate "match" AND there was an Owner's Suite still available (Odyssey only has 2 OS so it was a surprise that one was still available...but it was). Nope. Nope. Nope. She tried doing the online L&S. Nope. They outright refused. I was so disappointed. I have read of so many people moving their Empress suites to Odyssey and simply could not understand why I was being denied. If I had been there in person, they would have labeled me a "Karen" for sure. LOL @michelle got a call this morning from the L&S team with the bad news for a second time. Not only would they not shift me to Odyssey, NOW they wouldn't even shift me to an Oasis cruise that had been their offer last week (this offer never made any sense. It was a 7 night Eastern Caribbean cruise which violated all of their "rules" - different number of nights, different itinerary). Now I was steamin'. Poor Michelle. She is so patient. She texted me to let me know that they were "evaluating our options". I was resigned that this was just not going to work out. I asked Michelle to please just CWC and get an FCC for my deposit. She said "okay". Maybe 10 minutes later she texted me that they were offering to shift my Empress RS to an Allure Star Loft Suite during Thanksgiving week (6 night 11-21-21) !! I almost dropped the phone ! So they were willing to give me a $12.5K SLS on Allure but they couldn't see their way to giving me a $9K OS on Odyssey ? Whatever. I'll take Star Class every time !!! So.... @michelle is the queen of L&S negotiations. I don't know how she does it....but she is awesome. I'm soooo happy !!!!!!! Lovetocruise2002, USFFrank, Ogilthorpe and 15 others 2 9 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Empress RS to an Allure Star Loft Suite during Thanksgiving week (6 night 11-21-21) !! I almost dropped the phone ! OMG!!! I am soooooo jealous! But happy for you. WAAAYTOOO, Baked Alaska, Neesa and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: OMG!!! I am soooooo jealous! But happy for you. Thank you !!!! RCIfan1912 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLH Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, WAAAYTOOO said: So this thread is as close as I can find to my L&S news. I'm hijackin' it. Last week @michelle booked the Royal Suite for me on Empress (11-22-20, 6 night Western Caribbean) with the express intent of L&S'ing it to next year. According to the website, the appropriate cruise to which to shift this would have been a 6 night Western Caribbean cruise on Odyssey. YIPPEE ! That sounds great. Since the appropriate shift from a RS on Empress to another ship is an Owner's Suite, I was happy with that idea. So she called and they stone cold refused to make the shift to Odyssey even though the website showed that sailing as an appropriate "match" AND there was an Owner's Suite still available (Odyssey only has 2 OS so it was a surprise that one was still available...but it was). Nope. Nope. Nope. She tried doing the online L&S. Nope. They outright refused. I was so disappointed. I have read of so many people moving their Empress suites to Odyssey and simply could not understand why I was being denied. If I had been there in person, they would have labeled me a "Karen" for sure. LOL @michelle got a call this morning from the L&S team with the bad news for a second time. Not only would they not shift me to Odyssey, NOW they wouldn't even shift me to an Oasis cruise that had been their offer last week (this offer never made any sense. It was a 7 night Eastern Caribbean cruise which violated all of their "rules" - different number of nights, different itinerary). Now I was steamin'. Poor Michelle. She is so patient. She texted me to let me know that they were "evaluating our options". I was resigned that this was just not going to work out. I asked Michelle to please just CWC and get an FCC for my deposit. She said "okay". Maybe 10 minutes later she texted me that they were offering to shift my Empress RS to an Allure Star Loft Suite during Thanksgiving week (6 night 11-21-21) !! I almost dropped the phone ! So they were willing to give me a $12.5K SLS on Allure but they couldn't see their way to giving me a $9K OS on Odyssey ? Whatever. I'll take Star Class every time !!! So.... @michelle is the queen of L&S negotiations. I don't know how she does it....but she is awesome. I'm soooo happy !!!!!!! I read your saga in the other board. So happy for you. Maybe they looked at your cruising history and came to their senses. RCIfan1912, WAAAYTOOO, Big Tule and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, MLH said: I read your saga in the other board. So happy for you. Maybe they looked at your cruising history and came to their senses. Thank you !!! RCIfan1912 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, WAAAYTOOO said: So they were willing to give me a $12.5K SLS on Allure but they couldn't see their way to giving me a $9K OS on Odyssey ? Whatever. I'll take Star Class every time !!! So.... @michelle is the queen of L&S negotiations. I don't know how she does it....but she is awesome. I'm soooo happy !!!!!!! Star Class? NIIICEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! She really is a magician! WAAAYTOOO and RCIfan1912 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: Star Class? NIIICEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! She really is a magician! I know, right ? Sooo happy about how this turned out. I was told by some "experts" over on CC that they would NEVER L&S an Empress RS to a Star Class suite. I actually believed that myself ! But they did. Baked Alaska, RCIfan1912 and SpeedNoodles 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: I know, right ? Sooo happy about how this turned out. I was told by some "experts" over on CC that they would NEVER L&S an Empress RS to a Star Class suite. I actually believed that myself ! But they did. CC. Pffft. Dang, they should have L&S'd you to the Harmony T-Day cruise (aka Group Cruise!) RCIfan1912 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: CC. Pffft. Dang, they should have L&S'd you to the Harmony T-Day cruise (aka Group Cruise!) I know. That's what Michelle said, too. RCIfan1912 and SpeedNoodles 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 @WAAAYTOOO I am so happy for you! A great TA is priceless. Lovetocruise2002, WAAAYTOOO, Baked Alaska and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jax said: @WAAAYTOOO I am so happy for you! A great TA is priceless. SpeedNoodles, Baked Alaska, Jax and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Just another thing I owe you a huge thank you for. This community is such a great resource. Baked Alaska, WAAAYTOOO, Matt and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jax said: Just another thing I owe you a huge thank you for. This community is such a great resource. Always happy to help another Canadian suite snob! Ogilthorpe, Jax and WAAAYTOOO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Always happy to help another Canadian suite snob! Don’t you know it! Big Tule, Lovetocruise2002, Ogilthorpe and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 In case anyone is interested, the "bait" is back out there. The Royal Suite (which I relinquished as part of the L&S) as well as an Owner's Suite (which wasn't there when I booked the RS) are both showing for the 11-22-20 Empress sailing. The OS has a particularly attractive price ($1468 PP). So, if anyone is interested in taking a nicely discounted cruise next Nov (probably a Thanksgiving week) in an Owner's Suite or higher (maybe ???) you could book it now and L&S. The bad news is that final payment date has now come and gone, so if you wanted to do this you would have to pay the balance in full when you book. Still a very good deal ! Yo2slick, USCG Teacher, SpeedNoodles and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelle Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 @WAAAYTOOO this thread is hilarious! I love how excited you all get with cabins, makes my days It is actually kind of fun talking to Royal until I get someone that understands I may not hang up until I get what I want, lol HAPPY for you @WAAAYTOOO and of course @SpeedNoodles too WAAAYTOOO, SpeedNoodles and Neesa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelle Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 7:19 PM, Shari3 said: In answer to your first question I did. My travel agent took care of it for me. Saved quite a bit of money. All done within a day. Use MEI. thanks for the support ! Shari3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannaCruise Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Yes for the first question. We upgraded our stateroom from an inside to one with a balcony for less money. Made sure to book 7 night Eastern itinerary for a year earlier +/- 4 weeks....wasn't even the same week (and by "upgrade", we cancelled our original booking with the inside room after doing a booking for previous year and then lifted and shifted it) michelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooch Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Kinda backwards but I L & S'd our March 21 Rhapsody to March 22 Harmony then rebooked the March 21 Rhapsody. We liked our original itinerary so we booked it again, same price, same room. Plus we got a half price Owners Suite on Harmony! Oh and also thanks to our MEI agent. Thank you Emily!!! Neesa, WAAAYTOOO, WannaCruise and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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