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6 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said:

According to Marinetraffic.com right now she's headed from Gibraltar to SouthHampton. For whatever that's worth.

That’s a strange one 🤷🏻‍♂️ What’s it going Southampton for...? curious 

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1 minute ago, Jason12 said:

That’s a strange one 🤷🏻‍♂️ What’s it going Southampton for...? curious 

A nice spot of fish and chips? Who knows. Maybe it's the only place that'll let them let the crew off occasionally to stretch their sea legs.

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17 minutes ago, Zambia-Zaire said:

I suspect Royal would like to have Allure Amped "no later" than Nov 2021 for Galveston...sure they will amp her as soon as possible however.

The question is timing. The dry dock was supposed to be from now through May 10, at which point the boat returns to an ongoing schedule with nonstop passenger cruises through Spring 2022, at least. In other words, whatever they don't get done in the next 8 weeks they'd have to either cancel more cruises [which they really can't afford to do] to make time to do the work, or it won't get done at all for the foreseeable future.

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2 minutes ago, jeffmw said:

The question is timing. The dry dock was supposed to be from now through May 10, at which point the boat returns to an ongoing schedule with nonstop passenger cruises through Spring 2022, at least. In other words, whatever they don't get done in the next 8 weeks they'd have to either cancel more cruises [which they really can't afford to do] to make time to do the work, or it won't get done at all for the foreseeable future.

They have canceled cruises to do work on a ship before.  I believe it was Adventure that ended up with its remodel getting split into 2 stages due to a hurricane.  When an opening appeared in a dry dock's schedule, they canceled several cruises with not much notice to take advantage.  Of course, it may be harder to do that in the next couple years because a LOT of dry dock time is getting delayed.

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5 minutes ago, jeffmw said:

The question is timing. The dry dock was supposed to be from now through May 10, at which point the boat returns to an ongoing schedule with nonstop passenger cruises through Spring 2022, at least. In other words, whatever they don't get done in the next 8 weeks they'd have to either cancel more cruises [which they really can't afford to do] to make time to do the work, or it won't get done at all for the foreseeable future.

My guess and it’s only a guess, with the May sailing selling very cheap and people are cancelling I’d say they will do the works and start cruises once completed..

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10 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said:

A nice spot of fish and chips? Who knows. Maybe it's the only place that'll let them let the crew off occasionally to stretch their sea legs.

You appear to be correct. It's a good 200 miles west of where it said it was this morning. It had been inside the Strait and now it's sailing up the coast of Portugal. It could certainly turn around at any time, but it appears it's going somewhere north. Southampton is a huge port. I'm no expert by any means, but is it possible it could be one of the only other ports capable of executing the propeller repairs?

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1 minute ago, jeffmw said:

You appear to be correct. It's a good 200 miles west of where it said it was this morning. It had been insight the Strait and now it's sailing up the coast of Portugal. It could certainly turn around at any time, but it appears it's going somewhere north. Southampton is a huge port. I'm no expert by any means, but is it possible it could be one of the only other ports capable of executing the propeller repairs?

I'm only going by what it  literally says on marrinetraffic.com

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34 minutes ago, jeffmw said:

The question is timing. The dry dock was supposed to be from now through May 10, at which point the boat returns to an ongoing schedule with nonstop passenger cruises through Spring 2022, at least. In other words, whatever they don't get done in the next 8 weeks they'd have to either cancel more cruises [which they really can't afford to do] to make time to do the work, or it won't get done at all for the foreseeable future.

Yeah...I get that...no one can give an answer of certainty. Again I suspect at the "Latest" Royal will "like" to have her amp before going to Galveston & the new facility that will be built there...just my guess. However, I suspect they will amped her as soon as possible, when that opportunity, undoubtedly, present itself. They have done it before; I anticipate they will do it again, even after all this mess, short of a global depression.

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Saw this update today:
https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/03/18/royal-caribbean-puts-allure-of-the-seas-and-explorer-of-the-seas-amplifications-hold-due

Bit of a non-update, but it does confirm that things are on hold for now. I suppose the fact that there are physical operational issues with Allure would give it precedent to have at least some of the work one, but sounds like it could be cut back considerably. 😩

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Any word on the new amp date ,  I was on the allure a few months ago and it need refurbishment very bad even running on one engine ,  i booked the allure this February 2021 only because it was getting a complete over haul ,  any ideas if this refurbishment will be done this year 2020 ??????????

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1 hour ago, daha699 said:

Any word on the new amp date ,  I was on the allure a few months ago and it need refurbishment very bad even running on one engine ,  i booked the allure this February 2021 only because it was getting a complete over haul ,  any ideas if this refurbishment will be done this year 2020 ??????????

Please try not to post false information she was not running on one engine. She has 3 azipods that run on electric power and one has bearing problem. She has 6 Wartsila engines (3 18,590 hp and 3 24,780 hp) connected to generators supplying power to the ship & Azipods.

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Well the engines were running rough enough that we new there was a problem and was told it would be fixed on the refurbishment ....  and i was told by the staff one of the engines had major problems that is not false information.

And also i only wanted to know if the refurbishment would be complete in 2020 so i don't waste my money on this ship.

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1 hour ago, daha699 said:

Well the engines were running rough enough that we new there was a problem and was told it would be fixed on the refurbishment ....  and i was told by the staff one of the engines had major problems that is not false information.

And also i only wanted to know if the refurbishment would be complete in 2020 so i don't waste my money on this ship.

There's a big difference between "running on one engine" (clearly false) and "one of the engines had major problems" (which may or may not be true).  A crew member may have said engine even though they meant azipod because most people don't know that word.

No one (not even Royal) can answer whether any refurbishment will be complete in 2020.  Allure is still one of the newest ships in the fleet.  If you consider cruising on her to be a waste of money, your expectations might be better served by a different (and far more expensive) company.

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2 hours ago, daha699 said:

Well the engines were running rough enough that we new there was a problem and was told it would be fixed on the refurbishment ....  and i was told by the staff one of the engines had major problems that is not false information.

And also i only wanted to know if the refurbishment would be complete in 2020 so i don't waste my money on this ship.

So if any staff said the engines had problems that is false information and I wouldn't trust that staff person.  Allure has engines that drive generators that make electricity.  The engines are fine.  I sat beside an engineer on Allure at dinner a few weeks ago and asked a lot of questions.  On the crossing to Europe we didn't even need all the engines.  

The propulsion issues that Allure experienced were due to a bearing issue with an azipod.  While the engines drive generators that make electricity, the azipod consumes that electricity and move the ship.  

That's a lot of technical jargon so think of this way.  A car has an engine and it has a drive train that makes the car actually move.  If Allure was a car it's engine is fine, one tire is out of balance.  That doesn't stop it from moving, lots of people drive their cars with a tire out of balance.  It causes a shimmy and some vibration at higher speeds.  That's it.  Allure's propulsion issue is no different than an out of balance tire on car.  The only difference is to service the "bad tire" on Allure cost a lot of money. 

 Like a car if you drive it at high speed with a tire out of balance the vibration can break other things so they haven't been driving it at normal speeds, they slowed down to reduce vibration.

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You guys have your opinion and i have mine , my main question was anyone have any idea of the refurbishment Date rescheduled as i booked my cruise based on that and only that , and for your information i have been on allure 4 times and all the oasis class ships multiple times ,  i have my expectations and you have yours.

and i am a retired diesel mechanic so the car analogy is laughable to me , and i would not ride any vehicle long distance with any kind of vibration.

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I honestly don't care what's wrong w/ the propulsion or azi-whats. I just want my kids to have waterslides and the Abyss 😋We were on Symphony last December and my daughter was obsessed with the Abyss, and also was seriously bummed because she was about a 1/4 inch too short to ride the water slides and the lifeguards were extremely strict.

So she's super-excited for the Allure this year because she's expecting to be able do it all. It seems silly, but the level to which she was disappointed the last time and that she is excited for this time is almost enough that I'd consider switching boats if it's not going to be completed. So that's why I'm interested. As long as the boat gets to the ports I don't care what's going on under the hull!

I'm not mad and I realize that this mess has the whole world turned upside down, so it is what it is. But if they aren't able to complete the dry dock, I may change cruises. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of other options that match what we're looking for during their Winter Break other than Oasis on 12/27, and that trip is much more pricey.

 

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On 3/17/2020 at 11:06 AM, Jason12 said:

That’s a strange one 🤷🏻‍♂️ What’s it going Southampton for...? curious 

Southampton has a Drydock, they could be fixing the Azipods

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