tiny260 Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Barbara T said: Just reserved on Harmony in August. Ended up costing about $800 more than first cruise but still grateful got something to my liking. Just didn't want to book in summer when kids are out. The less kids the better since I have 4 of my own and it's an anniversary trip.....lol Awww, come on Mom, whats one little cruise, take them with you, lol. Just kidding. Glad this worked out for you, as much as I love Oasis, Harmony is my favorite (Have not been on Symphony), you will love her, I will be on her again in October. Is the cruise out of Port Canaveral in August? If so you might look at your airplane tickets, Orlando/MCO flights have been some of the most expensive I have bought lately from Tulsa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidd Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Am i correct to assume there will be no passengers on the the way to Spain and therefore the April 24th transatlantic sailing is also cancelled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 hours ago, twangster said: Conversely, when Royal came up with the Oasis and Quantum concepts the business model was planned and executed knowing the shipyards in Europe would be required in the long term plan. That plan was likely built and approved assuming transatlantic sailings for dry dock. That will continue to be the support model for these mega ships and I for one am glad of that since I get to take transatlantic sailings on them. Carnival came up with the Oasis concept; but, never acted upon it. RCCL bought the plans & tweak it a bit...and whala, an Oasis Class ship was born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish67 Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 hours ago, twangster said: We are mere guests like yourself so none of us has any inside information but in my opinion, a May 19 cruise is likely to proceed as planned with the information available at this time. Royal was very quick to email me and text me about my cancellation. If I had a cruise and flights booked for May 19 I would assume it's going ahead as planned. Thank you; I've been in communication with Royal all morning and they keep saying that the May dates are still scheduled as planed. I did some more research and found out that our airline (Delta)would charge us around $900 to change the international flights which would be covered by the $800 offered by RC as compensation. In fact, because we're not stuck to our sail date of May 19th, it would be a financially beneficial if they did cancel it because we'd get another cruise out of it for roughly the $100 or so we'd need to pay to change flights. Emotionally it would be a pain to have to move everything though so hoping for the best. Thankfully we booked everything on our own and have complete control over the full process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Zambia-Zaire said: Carnival came up with the Oasis concept; but, never acted upon it. RCCL bought the plans & tweak it a bit...and whala, an Oasis Class ship was born. Royal developed Oasis plans using a long time relationship with Wilson Butler. Here is one of Wilson Butler's earlier concepts: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2018/02/15/meet-the-oasis-of-the-seas-never-was Jjohnb and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 "Mr Turnquest said the ship involved in the accident, the Oasis of the Seas, has been stabilised and was currently floating on its own." http://www.tribune242.com/news/2019/apr/03/shipyard-suffered-significant-damage/ Mike P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceC Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Barbara T said: Me too. It was my 25th anniversary trip:( From what I was hearing RCI was giving a FULL REFUND and an FREE Equivalent Cruise. Is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 This story actually says the bottom of the dock buckled: http://thefreeportnews.com/news/gb-shipyard-closes-after-major-mishap/ Mike P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, VinceC said: From what I was hearing RCI was giving a FULL REFUND and an FREE Equivalent Cruise. Is this true? From what I have read, the full refund is for the cruise that was cancelled, minus the cost of any cruise insurance purchased. As far as a future cruise, the future cruise certificate (FCC) will be in the amount of the cruise fare portion only. So "free equivalent cruise" isn't exactly accurate but pretty close. VinceC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 They aren't refunding insurance so that people can make claims for items such as airfare and hotels or other covered expenses. If they refund the insurance it cancels the policy. FCC value never includes taxes and port fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, Barbara T said: I would have much rather kept my cruise since it was my anniversary. Rebooking everything has been exhausting. Luckily I'm not out one dime for rebooking flights, hotel, car rental etc. Glad Royal made it better by the credit. No question the best thing would have been the original cruise booked, but... glad it worked out for you! Barbara T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Zambia-Zaire said: Carnival came up with the Oasis concept; but, never acted upon it. RCCL bought the plans & tweak it a bit...and whala, an Oasis Class ship was born. There’s a great YouTube video on that Carnival project. It’s in the Cancelled series, the same guy does Abandoned as well which have some great footage of long gone Disney projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkelBierJay Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 I just saw this YouTube video speculating that the starboard azipod is crushed due to the list. There are also reports that the dry dock failed causing a domino effect leading to the collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, DunkelBierJay said: I just saw this YouTube video speculating that the starboard azipod is crushed due to the list. There are also reports that the dry dock failed causing a domino effect leading to the collapse. Too much speculation based on the same crummy cell phone pictures and video that we have seen. "It could have azipod damage..." - it also could not. We don't know. He doesn't know. Furthermore we don't know if the dry dock failed. It could be a human error. It could be control system for the ballast tanks malfunctioned, it could a thousand different things that we will likely never know about. It could be a Meglodon attacked the dry dock. It could be aliens. Shall I go on? Kudos to @Matt for not blogging just to blog about something without any concrete information to base the blog on. Mike P and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkelBierJay Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, twangster said: Too much speculation based on the same crummy cell phone pictures and video that we have seen. "It could have azipod damage..." - it also could not. We don't know. He doesn't know. Furthermore we don't know if the dry dock failed. It could be a human error. It could be control system for the ballast tanks malfunctioned, it could a thousand different things that we will likely never know about. It could be a Meglodon attacked the dry dock. It could be aliens. Shall I go on? Kudos to @Matt for not blogging just to blog about something without any concrete information to base the blog on. You know, dude...I used the term speculation because I thought the video was interesting. So sorry for sparking your snark ass comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, Andrew72681 said: There’s a great YouTube video on that Carnival project. It’s in the Cancelled series, the same guy does Abandoned as well which have some great footage of long gone Disney projects. I remember watching that before. I wonder now if Carnival regrets not going mega. Developed at the same time as Oasis and launching the same year, Carnival built the Dream, followed by Magic and Breeze. 2018 Revenues Dream Class: Magic $235,350,000, 242,000 passengers Breeze $222,040,000, 246,000 passengers Dream $205,190,000, 245,000 passengers Oasis Class: Harmony $485,570,000, 295,000 passengers Allure $422,500,000, 313,000 passengers Oasis $404,340,000, 307,000 passengers Symphony $396,500,000, 171,000 passengers (9 months in service) Revenue from Magic and Breeze combined is still less than Harmony alone. I've sailed all seven ships on this list. Oasis class was and still is a game changer. That poor architect from Carnival has to be beside himself seeing how successful Oasis class has become. IMO, MSC Seaside looks a lot closer to Carnival's concept ship than Oasis does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose City Cruiser Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 I don't know about you guys, I would use the FCC towards an Oasis-class Loft Suite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish67 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, Rose City Cruiser said: I don't know about you guys, I would use the FCC towards an Oasis-class Loft Suite. YES! That’s exactly what we’re planning to do if our 5/19 sailing ends up cancelled. Rose City Cruiser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChunkyMonkey Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Rose City Cruiser said: I don't know about you guys, I would use the FCC towards an Oasis-class Loft Suite. That's exactly what we are doing, using our refund and FCC towards a Loft Suite. We thought about the Med cruise next year, but decided on the Symphony in Sept to get the suite. Rose City Cruiser and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny260 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Barbara T said: Actually got a credit on my Southwest flights of $42 each! I booked AA there with points and was able to transfer the date on those. So glad to hear that we will like Harmony better. I had to talk my husband into a cruise and so I had to choose one of the big ships to do that. Super bummed about spending my anniversary at home in T-town but guess I have something to look forward to at the end of summer! Just have your husband take you downtown to the Bull in the Ally for dinner and make a night of it. Not the same as Chops on an O class cruise in the middle of Caribbean, but if you have lemons make lemonade. I love all of the O class ships (Been on Allure 3 times) but I have a soft spot for Harmony, took my first Mediterranean cruise on her right after she came out of being built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 10 hours ago, twangster said: I wonder now if Carnival regrets not going mega. I don't see how they couldn't regret it ! The O class has been such a sensation and has changed the cruise industry forever. I imagine Carnival is kicking themselves every day for not bringing their concept forward. The Cruise Junkie, Baked Alaska, lovecruising!!! and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonOwen Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 It would appear Oasis has been moved to a new location within the Shipyard. Matt, Mike P and The Cruise Junkie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, BrandonOwen said: It would appear Oasis has been moved to a new location within the Shipyard. That's the "Beach Wharf" where Navigator had her amplification performed. Good to see her free from the dry dock. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted April 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Herd She Will Be In Cadiz By The 18th Cruisin' Queen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Thanks for the update. I was musing earlier whether or not she had been extricated from the arms of the killer cranes. IRMO12HD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish67 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, BrandonOwen said: It would appear Oasis has been moved to a new location within the Shipyard. Would it be safe to assume they’ve removed the fallen crane since the ship is moving around? The pictures from yesterday with the damage from the crane looked horrible. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonOwen Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Has anyone heard the status of Oasis’ propulsion system. I’m seeing posts on Facebook that she will be towed to Spain. That seems like a really long tow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted April 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 I Hope They Make One Of Those Dry Dock Bigger To Hold One Of Those Size Of Ships J_Keeble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 hours ago, BrandonOwen said: Has anyone heard the status of Oasis’ propulsion system. I’m seeing posts on Facebook that she will be towed to Spain. That seems like a really long tow. All speculation. In the world of shipping these ships are not the biggest ships out there. They are the biggest cruise ships but there are larger ships and all ships get towed from time to time. Yesterday she became free so divers can do extensive surveys. Based on those I wouldn't be surprised to see her go to the open sea to test what propulsion may be available as is. A sea trial as such. That too is speculation though from an armchair quarterback. 3 hours ago, Jaymac Radio said: I Hope They Make One Of Those Dry Dock Bigger To Hold One Of Those Size Of Ships Likely depends on the damage to the floating dry dock. If they can fix it for $250k, they won't build a new one. If it's a complete loss they might replace it or they might decide the investment isn't worth it relative to the revenue it will generate. They might not replace the one crane that was destroyed. Maybe they'll patch it up and leave it with just three cranes. The shipyard may be owned by Royal and Carnival as majority owners but it has to be revenue positive or it makes no sense to operate it as a business. The shipyard may move forward and just operate the two remaining dry docks. lovecruising!!!, The Cruise Junkie, Cruisin' Queen and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonOwen Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 Looks like Oasis is headed to Spain... Cruisin' Queen, Marc Van Niekerk, Mike P and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, BrandonOwen said: Looks like Oasis is headed to Spain... 16 knots. Economical cruising speed. Great news. Cruisin' Queen and Mike P 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRMO12HD Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 Bon Voyage, Oasis - heal fast! SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 Yippee !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 Is she headed to Spain on her own power or are the ships towing just not large enough to register on the marine traffic maps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish67 Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 52 minutes ago, Andrew72681 said: Is she headed to Spain on her own power or are the ships towing just not large enough to register on the marine traffic maps? I believe she is headed on her own (potentially full) power as the tracker showed her moving at 18.7knts. Per google, her cruising speed is 22knts so she was almost at normal power. I doubt they'd be going that fast if being towed. lovecruising!!! and WAAAYTOOO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 Ships cruise at full speed only when required. They consume vastly more fuel at top speed compared to normal "cruising" speed. The most economical speed is likely somewhere around 15-17 knots. It's not uncommon for speeds to be higher than the economical cruise speed to meet waypoints on time. Sometimes that may be based on where a storm is forecasted to be in 4 or 5 days time, or they may run slightly faster for the first part of a long leg in case they run into foul weather or encounter a delay in the second part of a journey. Running faster now allows them a buffer later in case they need it. Cruisin' Queen and The Cruise Junkie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velseg Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 hours ago, twangster said: Ships cruise at full speed only when required. They consume vastly more fuel at top speed compared to normal "cruising" speed. The most economical speed is likely somewhere around 15-17 knots. It's not uncommon for speeds to be higher than the economical cruise speed to meet waypoints on time. Sometimes that may be based on where a storm is forecasted to be in 4 or 5 days time, or they may run slightly faster for the first part of a long leg in case they run into foul weather or encounter a delay in the second part of a journey. Running faster now allows them a buffer later in case they need it. I've just received a mail from RC about my incoming cruise in may 5th, they said is schedule and just assesing the damage to the aquatheater, if itsnt ready they develop a "B plan" for entertainment, just in case Mike P, WAAAYTOOO and The Cruise Junkie 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velseg Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 Hi, Im receiving daily updates of oasis position, this was today at 10am The Cruise Junkie, IRMO12HD and BrandonOwen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBloger Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 21 hours ago, Velseg said: https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2019/04/09/watch-three-sailings-cancelled-as-biggest-cruise-ship-in-world-heads-to-spain-after-crane-collapse/#.XLCgt42WyUk "The ‘Oasis of the Seas’, the largest cruise ship in the world, has arrived at the Navantia shipyard in Cadiz" Quote The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Welcome to the message boards! I suspect the report of her arrival in Cadiz is inaccurate. She is still 4 or 5 days away. The Cruise Junkie and tiny260 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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