The Cruise Junkie Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 https://www.local10.com/news/florida/crane-falls-on-florida-based-oasis-of-the-seas-cruise-ship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike P Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 I was hoping this was an April Fools joke The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Hoping no one was injured. Weird thing... I had a dream about a crane landing on a ship last night. In my dream the crane landed on deck 12 near the VCL on what appeared to be a Voyager class ship in my dream. How strange is that? CruisingKitty, WAAAYTOOO, The Cruise Junkie and 3 others 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Wonder If They Will Cancel Some More Sailings. Should Take Them Some More Time To Fix Those Rooms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Spooky strange.... Please let me know when you have a dream about a middle-aged woman in Virginia winning the lottery. Traveler, Lovetocruise2002, JennyB and 12 others 1 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 BTW, why is Oasis in dry dock when the amp thing isn't until October ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, WAAAYTOOO said: BTW, why is Oasis in dry dock when the amp thing isn't until October ? To Fix The Pods That Steer The Ship MamaShark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Spooky strange.... Please let me know when you have a dream about a middle-aged woman in Virginia winning the lottery. You're at the top of my list to contact first. Of course if you hear it from me, you didn't win. The Cruise Junkie and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Uh Oh It Just Got Worse! http://www.tribune242.com/news/2019/apr/01/injuries-after-oasis-seas-accident-gb-shipyard/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Doubt This But... Hope Oasis Gets Back To PC By This Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 The article I just read said that the dock is sinking. That can't be good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jaymac Radio said: Wonder If They Will Cancel Some More Sailings. Should Take Them Some More Time To Fix Those Rooms Hard to determine damage from this angle. First priority is accounting for everyone and imminent danger such as a damaged fuel tank or other structural issue. Within 24 hours they'll know near term impact. 2 minutes ago, Jaymac Radio said: Uh Oh It Just Got Worse! http://www.tribune242.com/news/2019/apr/01/injuries-after-oasis-seas-accident-gb-shipyard/ Initial thoughts based on limited information: The ship was in position in the dry dock. They were in the process of lifting the ship. The dry dock broke unable to lift the ship. When the dry dock broke, the one side collapsed and buckled causing the top of the dry dock where the crane is located to heave or buckle leading to the crane collapsing onto the ship. If that is the case, you can see how any workers on top of the dry dock would have been tossed around as the surface of the dry dock structure buckled. In this photo you can see the sidewall of the dry dock tilted inward. Wow. Really hope they can find everyone. The Cruise Junkie, JLMoran and cmcclelland 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, twangster said: Initial thoughts based on limited information: The ship was in position in the dry dock. They were in the process of lifting the ship. The dry dock broke unable to lift the ship. When the dry dock broke, the one side collapsed and buckled causing the top of the dry dock where the crane is located to heave or buckle leading to the crane collapsing onto the ship. If that is the case, you can see how any workers on top of the dry dock would have been tossed around as the surface of the dry dock structure buckled. Wow. Really hope they can find everyone. That makes two of us! I'm questioning that the dry dock wasn't able to hold the ship; I can't imagine that Royal would have engaged in a contract with them for this repair without knowing the range of tonnage it was capable of holding safely. No way Royal would risk one of their crown jewels if they didn't have 100% certainty the ship and the crew working on it would be safe. Sounds like they were doing something out of the ordinary with this dry docking, hoisting the ship up rather than pulling it in and then draining the water out so the ship would settle on the supports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 I know that they have had the O class ships in dry dock in the Bahamas before but it's true that these ships will not fit into the dry docks in the Bahamas. I recall that they actually have to lift one end of the ship in order to get to the areas that have to be repaired (which is apparently the point at which the crane failed, this time). It was definitely a make-shift maneuver that was borne out of the fact that the O class ships cannot be repaired just anywhere. I just hope everyone is ok. The Cruise Junkie and JLMoran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 It appears the crane may simply be leaning against the ship, aft of the ATS cabins. Primary concern would be for dockyard workers, accounting for them since the natural tendency is to run away, far away with large cranes potentially now unstable. Allure did a similar partial dry dock last year. Unclear if that was the same dock #2. Too early to determine root cause. Sounds like dry dock simply broke apart but that's speculation. An insurance company would have signed off on this project. So many possibilities right now. The ship would have backed into coffer dams to do the bearing work. If the floor of the dry dock broke, those coffer dams could have shifted and damaged the propellors or the azipods themselves. There would have been divers in the water guiding the ship, monitoring the lift, working on the coffer dams, closing the doors, moving them into position. First priority is to account for them. This video from Allure illustrates the work involved: The Cruise Junkie and Cruisin' Queen 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoC Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 41 minutes ago, twangster said: Hard to determine damage from this angle. First priority is accounting for everyone and imminent danger such as a damaged fuel tank or other structural issue. Within 24 hours they'll know near term impact. Initial thoughts based on limited information: The ship was in position in the dry dock. They were in the process of lifting the ship. The dry dock broke unable to lift the ship. When the dry dock broke, the one side collapsed and buckled causing the top of the dry dock where the crane is located to heave or buckle leading to the crane collapsing onto the ship. If that is the case, you can see how any workers on top of the dry dock would have been tossed around as the surface of the dry dock structure buckled. In this photo you can see the sidewall of the dry dock tilted inward. Wow. Really hope they can find everyone. Photo isn't great but you can see half of the railing on the FlowRider deck is missing. Not clear if it is damaged or removed as part of the work. If that area is damaged that must have been some hit, maybe the line snapped? (Edit: maybe the back part of the crane? Hard to tell with these shots). It doesn't look like the crane itself hit that area. I also see damage on the Aqua theater and maybe one of the lower AT balcony rooms. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSBrockman Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, WAAAYTOOO said: BTW, why is Oasis in dry dock when the amp thing isn't until October ? She was in for some routine repairs on the Azipods. Correct on the AMPED happening in October. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Correction - Allure has been in twice for work in dry dock #2 at this ship yard. In 2014 she had bearings replaced, in 2018 she had a propellor replaced using a similar process. Pretty chilling when dock worker declares "dock two is gone, dock two is finished". The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mook1525 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, twangster said: Pretty chilling when dock worker declares "dock two is gone, dock two is finished". for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marton2 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 http://thetribune.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/video/2019/04/01/VID-20190401-WA0002.mp4 I assume video links are okay on this site? I'm scheduled to sail on her April 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klc317 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 April fools I'm hoping?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike P Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 After watching the video of the procedure they used on Allure, the crane could be the least of their problems. There could be tremendous damage to the azipods and where they mount to the hull if the ships weight came down on them. This could potentially be a very long repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, mook1525 said: for real? Grand Bahamas Shipyard went for a record 29 cruise ship dry docks in 2018 up from 23 in 2017. those are just cruise ship dry docks. Some of those are minor like Grandeur's recent dry dock that was mostly technical work under the water line. Navigator just finished her dry dock there a month ago. If dry dock 2 has been destroyed or even seriously damaged, that won't be fixed very quickly. A lot of ships, cruise, cargo, tankers, etc could be impacted by this. Losing a major dry dock facility where a lot of ships get work done will have a ripple effects for many months to come. This also mean a lot workers will be out of work. It also means they'll not likely attempt such a partial Oasis class dry dock again. That has implications that are hard to quantify. Priority remains accounting for all workers at this point. lovecruising!!! and The Cruise Junkie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike P Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, twangster said: Grand Bahamas Shipyard went for a record 29 cruise ship dry docks in 2018 up from 23 in 2017. those are just cruise ship dry docks. Some of those are minor like Grandeur's recent dry dock that was mostly technical work under the water line. Navigator just finished her dry dock there a month ago. If dry dock 2 has been destroyed or even seriously damaged, that won't be fixed very quickly. A lot of ships, cruise, cargo, tankers, etc could be impacted by this. Losing a major dry dock facility where a lot of ships get work done will have a ripple effects for many months to come. This also mean a lot workers will be out of work. It also means they'll not likely attempt such a partial Oasis class dry dock again. That has implications that are hard to quantify. Priority remains accounting for all workers at this point. Is this where the Oasis AMP is scheduled later this year? Could impact the timing of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGSLC5 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, yzfmik said: Is this where the Oasis AMP is scheduled later this year? Could impact the timing of that? no the amped dry dock is happening in Europe. Mike P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, yzfmik said: After watching the video of the procedure they used on Allure, the crane could be the least of their problems. There could be tremendous damage to the azipods and where they mount to the hull if the ships weight came down on them. This could potentially be a very long repair. It's a tight fit in those coffer dams. If they are at the point of performing the lift, the coffer dams were closed and tightly surrounding the azipods. If the dry dock collapsed or broke apart, it's hard to imagine the azipods not being damaged. When Allure dinged a prop, it took months to forge a new one. She limped along at a reduced speed for a while. Mike P and The Cruise Junkie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APM Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 No such luck https://amp.local10.com/news/florida/crane-falls-on-florida-based-oasis-of-the-seas-cruise-ship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Being discussed at more length in the News & Rumors forum. It's very real. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeMannn Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, twangster said: It's a tight fit in those coffer dams. If they are at the point of performing the lift, the coffer dams were closed and tightly surrounding the azipods. If the dry dock collapsed or broke apart, it's hard to imagine the azipods not being damaged. When Allure dinged a prop, it took months to forge a new one. She limped along at a reduced speed for a while. Going to be a lot of damage topside as well. The Aqua theatre will be out of commission for some time. coneyraven, mattymay, Mike P and 8 others 3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPD Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Yikes. This looks horrible... I am so glad no one seems to have been killed during this accident! Do you all imagine they will cancel upcoming trips? Hard to imagine how this ship could be sailing anytime in the next several months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Yep, going to be some cancelled cruises. I saw an account of 8 injuries but all non-life threatening. Hoping that count holds true. My transatlantic in three weeks isn't looking so good right now. JLMoran, Firefly, SpeedNoodles and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe01 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Those pictures of the AquaTheater... What worries me is how heavily tilted the ship is. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they can be up and running for the TA which departs in 20 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Video from James Van Fleet early this morning. Ship had already been lifted, coffer dams dry. Work was underway. https://twitter.com/JamesVanFleet/status/1112678138734149632/video/1 Who knows how far they got, but now all that is underwater. All bets are off. I suspect she'll be there a while. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 So sad to see Oasis like this. I certainly hope all the people working on her are accounted for. After watching the video Van Fleet posted on Twitter this morning I sure hope there weren’t a bunch of people working in those cofferdams when it all happened. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_M Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Those cofferdams made for azipod maintenance are filled with water. I have idea how to change a bearing of azipod and at what stage of work they were in, but there might be some flooding of sea water inside azipods and aft of the ship. Thats going to take a while to repair. Firefly, The Cruise Junkie, JLMoran and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 So It May Be Cheaper Now For Them To Do The Big Dry Dock Here In Freeport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 46 minutes ago, LeeMannn said: Going to be a lot of damage topside as well. The Aqua theatre will be out of commission for some time. Oh wow ! I had not seen all of this ! Really REALLY bad The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klc317 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Wow, looks bad. Thoughts go to the injured folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 56 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Oh wow ! I had not seen all of this ! Really REALLY bad At least it didn't land in the suite seating area. </end-bad-joke> Susie and coneyraven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klc317 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Geez...what a mess. I'm wondering how bad the underside and the azipods look. Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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